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I was watching Matrix Reloaded and I thought - «Well, most ppl bash the Matrix 2/3, but if they had the chance, would theydo it better?»

And that became a metaphor for everything, from politics to society.
Say what you dislike, and how you can fix it. «Pay it Forward»-like.
 
Well I WATCHED M2 but not M3. I am waiting for m3 to come on DVD. Anyway, I disliked some parts in M2 that was suppose to be deleted from the movie such as the Sex scene, also I was expecting from the directors to show zion in more expanding way, whereas they showd only the engineering part of the city. The final part I hated mostly was replacing Tank by the new operator. The new operator suks, he does not know how to act. :(.

But I loved the first one, I like the second one and I am waiting for the third one to come on DVD. Moreover I am sure that the third part will worth my £15.
 
In the whole wide world, not only in the Matrix trilogy
 
I didn't like practically all of M3.. Too Hollywood-ish for me.. (I know Matrix is Hollywood, but this was a little bit too much).. The whole movie, I said to myself, "What? Couldn't they have.. <insert blah blah here>?"

It was a disappointment, but whatever.. Also, they said that everything would be answered in Revolutions.. What I noticed, nothing was answered.

http://matrix-explained.com/ - Good link.
 
Everything was explained actually, just in a very cryptic, vauge way. You basically have to put the answers together yourself from the clues they dropped in the movies. I loved all three of the movies, they're a lot more enjoyable if you watch them back to front. You pick out a lot of little subtle hints at what's to come in the sequels in the first film.

And it's The Desert of the Real, you fool. :p
 
Nice link:

I love the movies, and that's why I am angry. Something's different. I cannot feel them. It's not what the movie shows. It's what the movie does not show: The twists and the mind-puzzles!
 
Sprafa said:
In the whole wide world, not only in the Matrix trilogy
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Well, I would take the scene with Neo and Agent Smith....J/K

No, I really don't think things can get any better on a political level. Even if the Govt. was totally open, that's not the problem. The problem is something beautiful - People are different and disagree. The only way for things to get better would be for countries to split up into political sectors. Which even then wouldn't work entirely, there are things Republicans have done I don't like, just like the are things Democrats do that Liberals don't like.

Saying I can do it better is flawed. You can do it in a different way, but in the end, you will have to do things that will come off as wrong. Remember, we don't see the entire picture. Many of us see what we are shown, and even more see only what they want to. Sure, those of us with common sense know when something's not right, but we can still only base that off of our own feelings and thoughts.
 
KagePrototype said:
Everything was explained actually, just in a very cryptic, vauge way. You basically have to put the answers together yourself from the clues they dropped in the movies. I loved all three of the movies, they're a lot more enjoyable if you watch them back to front. You pick out a lot of little subtle hints at what's to come in the sequels in the first film.
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Yep, I agree. I really enjoyed piecing parts of the trilogy together after watching all 3, while most people's explanation for point x was that it made no sense. You had to think back to the previous movies to make point x make sense, which I liked.
 
KagePrototype said:
Everything was explained actually, just in a very cryptic, vauge way. You basically have to put the answers together yourself from the clues they dropped in the movies. I loved all three of the movies, they're a lot more enjoyable if you watch them back to front. You pick out a lot of little subtle hints at what's to come in the sequels in the first film.
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Well, dagnabbit, why the hell do they do this to me? :hmph:
 
G0rgon said:
Well I WATCHED M2 but not M3. I am waiting for m3 to come on DVD. Anyway, I disliked some parts in M2 that was suppose to be deleted from the movie such as the Sex scene, also I was expecting from the directors to show zion in more expanding way, whereas they showd only the engineering part of the city. The final part I hated mostly was replacing Tank by the new operator. The new operator suks, he does not know how to act. :(.

But I loved the first one, I like the second one and I am waiting for the third one to come on DVD. Moreover I am sure that the third part will worth my £15.
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The actor who played Tank never showed up , so they fired him. His loss , thats a hell of alot of money. He probably earned alot on the first one and he was suddenly too good to show up for work.

I liked all 3 , but the first was still the best. The 2 and 3 spent WAY too much time in the real world , the firs one was good for two reasons. It had alot of gun fights and kungfu MIXED , not just over extended kick/punch scenes. 2 and 3 barely had any gunfights and it was very disappointing , it ruined the action by about 50%. The second aspect is that it spent too much time in the Real World , it would have been OK if say half of 2 and half of 3 was there , I wanted to see Zion too. But it spent about 3/4ths of both those movies there , I KNOW what the realworld is like , I live there. The Matrix would have been a better place to spend both movies , cooler gun fights , cooler fist fights , and the physics and the people still ignorant of whats going on , while Neo and company can do amazing things. That all made the Matrix an interesting place to watch. The 3 parts that should have been in the Real World were the tour of Zion , The fight against the invasion , and The voyage to the Machine City. But much time was WASTED in the real world , especially that damn sex scene with ports.
 
DimitriPopov said:
I liked all 3 , but the first was still the best.
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Yeah, and my reasons are the same as yours..

Also, it got you into the Matrix, showed you what you can do..
And M2 did the same,
And M3 did the same. (Inside the Matrix that is)

Why was there NO innovations in the 2nd and 3rd movie? In M3, Trinity did that same, slowmotion, pan the camera, snap kick, which is just one example of the same same blah blah poop poop. :dozey:
 
The matrix sequels basically drowned in their own hype. People expected life-changing, movie of the year material thanks to all the hype, hoping it would make the same impact the first did (impossible). However, what they got was....a sci-fi action film. With Keanu Reeves as the main protagonist?!

You can only blame yourself for being dissapointed really lol

One thing I've noticied is that a lot of people I know who didn't like the sequels hated anime, yet the people who liked the sequels liked anime.....coincidence?
 
m2 was a big disapointment......

m3 wasnt as bad ...it had enough special effects and shit blowing up to keep me occupied.....
 
That, Mr Sprafa, is the sound of Inevitability. The sound of your death
etc etc, bash bash bash...
If i were to do the Matrix Trilogy, i would (With the power of Hind sight) done all three together...Also, it wouldnt have just been 3, it would have been 4. In my opinion, they could have expanded on all 3 films and made streched it out.

As far as the rest of the world. From my viewpoint, i can see how a lot of things could be done better. Having said that, im no privy to everything that goes on in the world, so i just dont know. However, i do think people in positions of power are generaly quite shortsighted. That goes for anything, not just government and corporations. However, there are those out there who do try, and those who genuinly succeed at running things well...So, basically i thinkinstead of me doing things better, i would just want to give my support.
 
You spelled my name wrong (if thats my name....)
 
Were you reading my post, or were you looking at the spelling mistakes?......Look again
 
the first matrix was an awesome movie, the other 2 were meh.
 
I think if they had all been done together, then it would have been a lot better. The first one had something special, which the second 2 didnt. However, i still thought they were great..apart from the porn.
 
-There was no porn in Reloaded
It was a mild nudity scene
 
I would class it as pornography...Since i was talking at the time, that was the word used. Call it what you want, i will call it a pornographic scene. You could say it wasnt intended as porn, but i think it was, just perhaps not in the same level as normal porn.
 
It wasn't even softcore, you never actually saw anything. It was just unbeleivably suggestive :p
 
KagePrototype said:
It wasn't even softcore, you never actually saw anything. It was just unbeleivably suggestive :p
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Since it added absolutely nothing to the movie , it was porn.
 
I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd also like to point out like so much others, that I was disappointed with M2 & M3. The reason is simply because I were expecting a movie more like the original one. With that being said, I also want to point out that these 2 movies on their own, would be at the top of quality films at hollywood if I were to look at them like regular movies and not associating them with the orginial 'The Matrix'.
 
the giant orgy pretty much ruined reloaded.......


i was sitting in the theatre.....thinking "what the hell is this garbage"
 
crabcakes66 said:
the giant orgy pretty much ruined reloaded.......


i was sitting in the theatre.....thinking "what the hell is this garbage"
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well if the world was about to end, what would you do? Prepare for invasion, spend time with your family, or have an orgy? :)
 
Shuzer said:
Yep, I agree. I really enjoyed piecing parts of the trilogy together after watching all 3, while most people's explanation for point x was that it made no sense. You had to think back to the previous movies to make point x make sense, which I liked.
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i tried explaining that to pple who did not understand numbers 2 and 3.. but they didn't care to want to understand *shrug*

a few times i got the "if u need a website/another person to help u understand the movie, then it wasn't a good movie in the first place" line.. but since they chose not to piece together the 3 movies, it obviously is hard to comprehend what the message is.

anyway, i don't think the Matrix series.. especially movies 2 and 3 are for the mainstream crowd anyway.. at least they were not geared that way for sure... if ur not into religion, the movies in a general sense were not too appealing... at least thats something i realized talking to pple about Matrix 2 and 3.
 
Sprafa said:
This wasn't supposed to be Matrix thread...
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I was one of the few people that took your thread seriously, and you didn't even reply, you smelly bastard. :hmph:
 
Sorry bout that GV.
Its just all this shit about the Matrix overlrran your post...
 
Here's a little commentary on the rave scene that I think justifies it's existence (taken from everything2.com):

One of the deeper meanings of the (it seems) critically- and fanboy-reviled "rave" scene in this movie seems to have sailed right over their heads:

It's a war. Man vs. Machine. Humanity is facing its biggest threat in this war to date. They have a plan for their defense. They know what they have to do. They don't know whether or not they'll win. In fact, it seems highly unlikely that they will.

What better way, then, to piss off their enemies, those intelligent machines, than to rub their collecive binary noses into something stinky, to flaunt the very things those programs think of as viruses, than to have a sweaty, horny, balls to bones down and dirty celebration of what humanity is: meat. Flesh, bones, brains, hearts, cocks, ****s, hair, sweat, pus, snot, spit, balls, tits, piss, shit, love, hate, fear, hope, faith, despair ... the very things that set us apart from our creations, the things that makes us animals and them machines. When you consider the tender lovemaking between Neo and Trinity that's intercut with the animal grinding of just about every other young, good looking resident of Zion, you realize Morpheus' exhortation to the crowd to "shake the very earth" isn't meant to shake the earth with anything but one big, loud, insane, head-exploding orgiastic orgasm.

Worked for me. I was ... attentive ... for the rest of the movie. Note to certain critics and fans: go make it with a big fat waitress named Gloria. You'll understand then.
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http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1461965
 
OK, ok, seriously, the one thing I can't stand more than anything is people who are intolerant. It's a real problem (I'm talking worldwide). Intolerance causes hatred, which causes fear and mistrust, which eventually mutates into violence. The problem behind intolerance is education, or lack thereof. People are usually intolerant because they are ignorant, and the sad thing is they consider themselves experts, knowing everything there is to know about whatever, be it a different religion, lifestyle, etc., and they form their opinions off of that. So the key to ending intolerance is giving people a solid education, and wiping these false facts from their minds. I?m not really totally sure how to do that, but I would start with getting the promoters of ignorance off of their podiums.
 
Sprafa said:
Sorry bout that GV.
Its just all this shit about the Matrix overlrran your post...
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It's okay. I was just looking for an excuse to call someone a smelly bastard.
 
qckbeam said:
OK, ok, seriously, the one thing I can't stand more than anything is people who are intolerant. It's a real problem (I'm talking worldwide). Intolerance causes hatred, which causes fear and mistrust, which eventually mutates into violence. The problem behind intolerance is education, or lack thereof. People are usually intolerant because they are ignorant, and the sad thing is they consider themselves experts, knowing everything there is to know about whatever, be it a different religion, lifestyle, etc., and they form their opinions off of that. So the key to ending intolerance is giving people a solid education, and wiping these false facts from their minds. I?m not really totally sure how to do that, but I would start with getting the promoters of ignorance off of their podiums.
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It's been said before, Bolshevik.
Intolerance is a part of being human. Accept it.
 
Holy **** GV thats not a nice thing to say!
You're out of the project!

j/k :)
 
Sprafa said:
Holy **** GV thats not a nice thing to say!
You're out of the project!

j/k :)
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Ha, you fool! I am the project.
Without me, it's a total failure. I'm the perfect subject.

;)
 
Hey this is so cool, its a private thread! No one is even looking at it!!
BTW, I'm going to PM you in a couple of minutes with a couple more Q and I need the answers ASAP!
 
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