1,000 pound fines for ID card slackers

[clarky003]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444313&in_page_id=1770

A police force will be set up to issue ?1,000 fines to anyone who fails to update their personal details on the Government's new database, it has emerged.

The unit, part of the Identity and Passport Service, is expected to send the penalties by post, after snooping through computer records

Potential pitfalls include forgetting to tell the Government of a change of address or name, failing to notify officials of an error on the National Identity Register and failing to hand in an ID card belonging to a relative who has died. All cash raised will go to the Treasury.

Wtf, does anyone know what happened to a referendum on the whole ID card thing?

 

[Laivasse]

I'm dubious enough of the Daily Mail and its tendency to sensationalise stuff, but this topic doesn't need much sensationalising tbh. It's crap like this that is making me seriously consider emigration.

 

[repiV]

I'm dubious enough of the Daily Mail and its tendency to sensationalise stuff, but this topic doesn't need much sensationalising tbh. It's crap like this that is making me seriously consider emigration.

I made that choice a long time ago...

The trouble is, where?

 

[Solaris]

I've got an Irish passport application in the works atm so I won't be getting one of them.

 

[Laivasse]

Hmm, I have Irish parents. That could be an idea Solaris.

 

[Ennui]

I made that choice a long time ago...

The trouble is, where?

We could all meet up in Canada.

After I finish uni in the states (still four years from now, I start next semester) I'll probably leave and head to the Great White North unless something seriously good happens to this country (like Obama being elected in 2008).

 

[repiV]

We could all meet up in Canada.

After I finish uni in the states (still four years from now, I start next semester) I'll probably leave and head to the Great White North unless something seriously good happens to this country (like Obama being elected in 2008).

Canada does seem like a fantastic country, but it's so cold. I don't think it would be possible to ride the motorcycle year round with all that snow?
Similar concerns with Hong Kong - great place, but no fun to ride a bike in and it's life-suckingly hot (and polluted). Plus they work ridiculous hours.

The USA seems good, but it's very immigration-unfriendly. Even highly skilled and educated people from Western countries have a hell of a time getting in. All while a blind eye is turned to the millions of Mexicans streaming across the border unchecked every year - that's justice for ya.

 

[jondy]

This ID card shit is ****in' ridiculous. The only people who think it's a ****ing good idea are the ****ing government. It makes my ****ing blood boil. Gorram c*nts can get ****ed.

 

[repiV]

This ID card shit is ****in' ridiculous. The only people who think it's a ****ing good idea are the ****ing government. It makes my ****ing blood boil. Gorram c*nts can get ****ed.

I just can't understand why there are still staunch Labour supporters around. It's truly perplexing.

 

[Laivasse]

I just can't understand why there are still staunch Labour supporters around. It's truly perplexing.

Honestly. Trudat. Although the opposition are no better, at least getting them in for a term would screw up the ID card idea and a few others. There is not enough of an essential difference in policies between Labour and Tory any more to be able to say that Conservative would be a much worse choice. At least it would teach a government the penalty of screwing up to the extent Labour have.

 

[repiV]

Honestly. Trudat. Although the opposition are no better, at least getting them in for a term would screw up the ID card idea and a few others. There is not enough of an essential difference in policies between Labour and Tory any more to be able to say that Conservative would be a much worse choice. At least it would teach a government the penalty of screwing up to the extent Labour have.

Oh, that's what's even more perplexing - the Conservatives need to emulate Labour in order to get elected. I despair of this country at times.

 

[Gray Fox]

The fine is to big but for the rest you people are just over generalizing, we've had to carry ID cards with us here for some time now, it really doesn't change anything. There are much more important things to worry about then wearing ID cards.

 

[63]

Canada does seem like a fantastic country, but it's so cold.

It's really not as cold as everyone says, at least in the west. It rains all the time, and there's snow on the ground for maybe a week per year :|

 

[gick]

I've got an Irish passport application in the works atm so I won't be getting one of them.

Yeah, thats the plan here. Im also pretty set on going to live in Canada one day (I would go to Holland, but I cant speak dutch and I doubt they'd have me).

 

[ríomhaire]

Hmm, I have Irish parents. That could be an idea Solaris.

You can come live with me :naughty:

 

[Asknoone]

Pathetic.

 

[repiV]

It's really not as cold as everyone says, at least in the west. It rains all the time, and there's snow on the ground for maybe a week per year :|

And that's in Vancouver?

 

[Laivasse]

You can come live with me :naughty:

Ough BAYBAY! :naughty: (I r male is ok?)

 

[Ennui]

Every time I read the news these days, I start thinking about Orwell and A Clockwork Orange and Huxley and the like, it's becoming uncanny, and scary.

 

[63]

And that's in Vancouver?

Yep.

 

[Shadow-warrior]

The moment they force ID cards on us is the moment I'm out of this shit hole for good. Holland here I come!

 

[repiV]

Yep.

Awesome. Supposed to be the best city in the world...
I may just pay a visit...

 

[jondy]

The fine is to big but for the rest you people are just over generalizing, we've had to carry ID cards with us here for some time now, it really doesn't change anything. There are much more important things to worry about then wearing ID cards.

unified records database, biometrics, potential for abuse...

 

[63]

Awesome. Supposed to be the best city in the world...
I may just pay a visit...

You can stay with me.
And I only have one bed.

 

[repiV]

You can stay with me.
And I only have one bed.

Do you do that thing with your tongue?

 

[Stigmata]

I have an awesome idea.

In a few years, when people here are done school and/or ready to move to Canada, we could all move to Vancouver and get apartments in the same building

 

[Gray Fox]

The moment they force ID cards on us is the moment I'm out of this shit hole for good. Holland here I come!

Like I said we already have National ID which we have to carry with ourselves, or risk a fine.

unified records database, biometrics, potential for abuse...

Everything has a risk to be abused, what makes ID cards so special al you people have to rail against.
As far as I see the advantages in cost and safety trump the risk of potential abuse and the damage it can inflict.

 

[Solaris]

I ****ing love Vancouver. I went their for 3 weeks on holiday a couple of years back.

Best place in the world, no contest.

 

[jondy]

Everything has a risk to be abused, what makes ID cards so special al you people have to rail against.
As far as I see the advantages in cost and safety trump the risk of potential abuse and the damage it can inflict.

which advantages in cost and safety are you referring to

 

[Gray Fox]

which advantages in cost and safety are you referring to

ID cards, unified databases, and biometrics, make it harder for criminals to pass as others, they also make it easier and less costly since less investigation has to be done to confirm an identity. This doesn't really hamper ones abilities to vote, to enact free speech, to live any less free then before this.

This would simply make it easier for a dictatorial government to round up citizens, but so does having a military.

IMO the solution is not to rally against ID cards, since they coupled with the other measures can be very useful in ensuring safety, and instead concern yourselves with ensuring free speech, with holding the government accountable for it's actions. If you do that, ID cards, camera's on every corner, and the lot, cease to become a threat, and become useful tools in the fight against crime.