250GB Xbox 360 coming For Modern Warfare 2

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Infinity Ward announced at a press event in Los Angeles today that, to commemorate the release of the game, Microsoft will be releasing a brand new model of the Xbox 360 based on Modern Warfare 2.

This new console will be black, with Modern Warfare 2 branding, and will also come packing a 250GB HDD (so, yes, it is real), a copy of the game and two wireless controllers. It'll be $399, and is apparently already available for preorder.

More details to come.
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so what is this like the 6th iteration??
 
FPS games on consoles, lol
 
Releasing a new version of a console deep into it's life span? Don't see what that's gonna do.
 
I might pull the trigger on this even though I have an elite. lol
 
I wonder what price tag that 250gb drive will have. I paid 120€ for my 120gb drive :E
 
I hardly play console games, in fact right now I'm gunna throw another 30 min run into Crysis. watching Whiteout today made me want to play, and Cryostasis is only $12 brand new on amazon today
 
I thought MS said they'd stop multiple SKUs cos it confuses people o_O
 
I thought MS said they'd stop multiple SKUs cos it confuses people o_O

Bundles help sales and redesigns with bundles help more so their gonna crank them out, this might be a long generation thats going on
 
So far M$ will surpass the original Xbox but I bet 7 years is the max for their 360 model. I also assume Sony will sharpen up and drop just 1 year from their life cycle. I think 6-7 years is perfect for a consoles lifetime. 10 is too much and 4 is too fast
 
So far M$ will surpass the original Xbox but I bet 7 years is the max for their 360 model. I also assume Sony will sharpen up and drop just 1 year from their life cycle. I think 6-7 years is perfect for a consoles lifetime. 10 is too much and 4 is too fast
God, consoles suck now. What a waste of games.

Carmack suspects Sony will try to drop a new console first.
will also come packing a 250GB HDD (so, yes, it is real), a copy of the game and two wireless controllers. It'll be $399
Or... you could just get the superior version of the game for PC. :stare:
 
My 360 has no other purpose than collect dust. I don't even know why i bothered purchasing it.
Hype, i guess. Seriously, it's become nothing but a glorified dvd player to me. The Live service is nothing but a rip off and the games are way too overpriced.


I wouldn't play a shooter on a console if you paid me to. It's like trying to masturbate on ice skates.
It's beyond frustrating.
 
I don't think this will be the last design. Microsoft believes in this stuff.

There was an article about it somewhere. In the article, Microsoft suggests that people place great importance on the way electronics touch, feel and look. For example, the way it feels when you click a button is very important to a persons reception and opinion of an electronic device.



I have to admit, I do like this one:
 
Or... you could just get the superior version of the game for PC. :stare:
Except that buying gaming hardware for a PC would cost twice, if not triple the $399 amount.

That's why there's so many console shooter fans. I do agree the FPS experience feels superior on a PC though, and since so many console game devs these days are notorious for releasing goddamned beta copies of their software full of glitches and bugs instead of actually finishing their games first, (360 Fallout3) might as well play it on PC anyways if you can afford it.

That used to be my main argument for consoles, that a console user doesn't have to worry about updates and patches, but now that point is moot.

Consoles are starting to suck thoroughly and not just a "little bit" anymore. However, PC tech is partly to blame for this.
 
Except that buying gaming hardware for a PC would cost twice, if not triple the $399 amount.
$1200? Get out of town. You can get a card to run this game for about $20 with free shipping to your doorstep.

here are over one hundred different video cards for $20 to $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE

That's why there's so many console shooter fans.
really? there are console shooter fans? No, I think they are just fans of the game and the console is just the means to play it in most cases.
I do agree the FPS experience feels superior on a PC though
It not only feels superior, it is superior in every single imaginable way. Graphics, sound, loading time, controls, free online play, custom content, mods, even conversions. The mod and conversion communities live on for decades in some cases.

and since so many console game devs these days are notorious for releasing goddamned beta copies of their software full of glitches and bugs instead of actually finishing their games first, (360 Fallout3) might as well play it on PC anyways if you can afford it.
I never have problems with patches. You know, I play a game to the end in the original version usually without any critical bugs. One day, I press the update button in the game menu and see that there is a patch so I patch it. It's not overly difficult or tedious. Sometimes they eventually release a patch to allow you to play without the disc, which is nice.

The biggest gripe is a minor one. If you uninstall the game, you have to reapply the patch, or sometimes your save games don't work with the new patch. Of course, with a console, if you delete the downloaded patches, you have to do the same thing.

While I agree that games are often released too early, there is nothing that will ever change the fact that games will have bugs. Some of them cannot be fixed due to hardware limitations, and some of them are minor, yet would require significant manpower to fix.
 
$1200? Get out of town. You can get a card to run this game in full glory for about $20 with free shipping to your doorstep.

here are over one hundred different video cards for $20 to $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE
I haven't been in the market for PC hardware in a long time so I can't really argue here. How much will a 8800GTX 512MB card run for these days? I wouldn't settle for anything less if I were to go the PC route. What's the point in having a PC if you don't actually take full advantage of all that performance and graphics PC versions are capable of? That's not even Nvidia's latest gear though right? There's the 9800 GX2 these days if I'm not mistaken.


really? there are console shooter fans? No, I think they are just fans of the game and the console is just the means to play it in most cases.
Well, that's what I really meant to say smart ass. :p

It not only feels superior, it is superior in every single imaginable way. Graphics, sound, loading time, controls, free online play, custom content, mods, even conversions. The mod and conversion communities live on for decades in some cases.
I love, love playing around with mods, but sometimes I just want to game and not have to worry about patches you know?

I never have problems with patches. You know, I play a game to the end in the original version usually without any critical bugs. One day, I press the update button in the game menu and see that there is a patch so I patch it. It's not overly difficult or tedious. Sometimes they eventually release a patch to allow you to play without the disc, which is nice.

The biggest gripe is a minor one. If you uninstall the game, you have to reapply the patch, or sometimes your save games don't work with the new patch. Of course, with a console, if you delete the downloaded patches, you have to do the same thing.

While I agree that games are often released too early, there is nothing that will ever change the fact that games will have bugs. Some of them cannot be fixed due to hardware limitations, and some of them are minor, yet would require significant manpower to fix.
Nowadays consoles don't give players the luxury of not having to worry about patching and it's all thanks to Live distribution services. Naturally, others would be perplexed as to why this is a bad thing, but in my case I don't have access to any form of broadband other than satellite where I live, which is way too overpriced.

Besides, there's absolutely no excuse why any console game should have bugs. PC games are excusable since they are developing for innumerable PC hardware/software configurations, but when they are developing for a closed box (minus SKUs whose main upgrades are in HD capacity) the only reason for bugs is because developers want players to pay to beta test their software and then release patches on Live services later, which is bullshit. Makes since if it were a PC game, though on a console it just feels sleazy and cheap on the publishers behalf.
 
I haven't been in the market for PC hardware in a long time so I can't really argue here. How much will a 8800GTX 512MB card run for these days? I wouldn't settle for anything less if I were to go the PC route. What's the point in having a PC if you don't actually take full advantage of all that performance and graphics PC versions are capable of? That's not even Nvidia's latest gear though right? There's the 9800 GX2 these days if I'm not mistaken.

That's retarded. Unless you have a monitor native to 2560x1600 you aren't gonna need the very top of the line stuff or SLI. In fact anything up below a 24" monitor (1680x1050) you can get great performance out of with a mid-range last-gen card like 8800GT or the like.
 
That's retarded. Unless you have a monitor native to 2560x1600 you aren't gonna need the very top of the line stuff or SLI. In fact anything up below a 24" monitor (1680x1050) you can get great performance out of with a mid-range last-gen card like 8800GT or the like.
It's not retarded if I wanted a hi-res monitor. :p
tbh, anything less than 1200x1600 will be unacceptable for me on my next build.

On any resolution lower than that, I might as well just play the console version although I'll hate myself for choosing a joypad over the keyboard.

I have you know my Tru-flat CRT is the best of it's kind and rivals most PC monitors. Especially in terms of contrast.
 
I haven't been in the market for PC hardware in a long time so I can't really argue here. How much will a 8800GTX 512MB card run for these days? I wouldn't settle for anything less if I were to go the PC route. What's the point in having a PC if you don't actually take full advantage of all that performance and graphics PC versions are capable of? That's not even Nvidia's latest gear though right? There's the 9800 GX2 these days if I'm not mistaken.
I believe that to play this game with full settings could be done with many if not most of the cards listed under $50. Personally though, I'd go with something better, because you are going to need a strong card to play newer games like RAGE smoothly.

Well, that's what I really meant to say smart ass. :p
Oh, I seriously thought you meant that "so many gamers prefer a control pad"

Nowadays consoles don't give players the luxury of not having to worry about patching and it's all thanks to Live distribution services. Naturally, others would be perplexed as to why this is a bad thing, but in my case I don't have access to any form of broadband other than satellite where I live, which is way too overpriced.
I don't understand why you are bashing PC games for it then, if you get a console game you'd still have to patch it with your internet connection.

Besides, there's absolutely no excuse why any console game should have bugs. PC games are excusable since they are developing for innumerable PC hardware/software configurations, but when they are developing for a closed box (minus SKUs whose main upgrades are in HD capacity) the only reason for bugs is because developers want players to pay to beta test their software and then release patches on Live services later, which is bullshit.
Maybe you didn't take literally what I said, there are some bugs that cannot be fixed due to hardware or programming limitations. One example of a bug due to hardware limitation should be familiar to you if you've ever played the NES - sprite flicker.

Making a game engine, you don't know with foresight exactly what can't be done. So you might get the entire code up and running after many months only to realize that there is a critical flaw in the design.
 
It's not retarded if I wanted a hi-res monitor. :p
tbh, anything less than 1200x1600 will be unacceptable for me on my next build.

Oh so your argument that "buying gaming hardware for a PC would cost twice, if not triple the $399 amount" applies to people with no sense of moderation and who want the best even if they can't afford it.
Well I guess in terms of not spending stupid amounts of money due to lack of self control it's better to buy a console rather than a PC for people like you.
 
I don't understand why you are bashing PC games for it then, if you get a console game you'd still have to patch it with your internet connection.
I'm just steamed with gaming in general anymore. You've got consoles trying to emulate a PC's versatility and it's crap at best. At least with a PC if I decided to go satellite, this wouldn't bother me so much. Xbox I believe is DSL/cable only, which only adds further rage to my fire. There's no longer the option of just playing the game with the peace of mind that there's nothing that can be done if the game turns out to be crap like in the old days.


Maybe you didn't take literally what I said, there are some bugs that cannot be fixed due to hardware or programming limitations. One example of a bug due to hardware limitation should be familiar to you if you've ever played the NES - sprite flicker.
Back then, games weren't marketed towards realism, so we didn't give a damn about sprite flicker. The worst that could happen with a NES game was that the damn thing just wouldn't start, forcing us to blow in the cartridge fruitlessly. Yup, those were the days.

Making a game engine, you don't know with foresight exactly what can't be done. So you might get the entire code up and running after many months only to realize that there is a critical flaw in the design.
If it's console games we're talking here, then the publishers should delay until they get it right. What's wrong with advocating quality?

It's not just minor bugs I'm talking about like sprite flicker, but seriously obnoxious flaws that totally ruin the experience and/or are entirely game breaking.

Oh so your argument that "buying gaming hardware for a PC would cost twice, if not triple the $399 amount" applies to people with no sense of moderation and who want the best even if they can't afford it.
Well I guess in terms of not spending stupid amounts of money due to lack of self control it's better to buy a console rather than a PC for people like you.
This is my own personal taste, and I don't get into the habit of making purchases on credit. It's bad for the chit-book.

For PC gaming, I'm all-or-nothing, but consoles? Well of course they are inferior so I have peace of mind in knowing that and that's why I sometimes go that route instead when I'm on a tight budget. My PC was cutting-edge tech in '06, but I don't have the money to shell out for new upgrades and/or new build atm. That's ok though because there are still plenty of '06 PC games that I haven't played yet, so I'm happy with my PC for now.

btw, I'm an eccentric fellow. My advice is for me only.
 
PS3 Slim.


Also, FPS games on a console. :upstare:

well yea, but at least that was a complete redesign and drew less power among other things.

this is just a 360 with a bigger HD and stuff written on it.

also, fps games on a console :stare:
 
That's the perception. Consoles are more expensive in the long term if you buy a lot of games.
 
That's the perception. Consoles are more expensive in the long term if you buy a lot of games.
True. Last time I checked, new release retail PC games are cheaper than the console versions, and probably even cheaper if you purchase from a distribution site like Steam, but it's the initial investment that most people can't afford. I'd say most people probably don't have an '09 PC gaming ready system. That includes monitor, graphics card, processor, peripherals, etc. PC's planned obsolescence is too short and most people have systems they've owned for years. Take it from someone who's worked in the industry before.


Furthermore, it's these console gamers who just don't like the hassle PC gaming entails plus the expenditures involved, thus meaning there are more casual *cough* gamers these days than you'd like to think. Sure if you play you cards right you can get a decent system, but there's alot of gamers out there who aren't as nerdy as people like us who post on a gaming forum regularly who'd spend the time modding, patching, and tweaking games.
 
The $500 initial investment? PC hardware is cheap and can be used for other things like porn.

There are plenty of prebuilt options available through OEMs but it's not terribly difficult to follow something like this http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/build_a_500_pc_play_crysis_40fps?page=0,0. The article even has build instructions, you cannot possibly go wrong. Heck I'll put the bloody thing together for you if you give me $50 and a few bottle of coke (that includes an overnight stress test).
 
The $500 initial investment? PC hardware is cheap and can be used for other things like porn.

There are plenty of prebuilt options available through OEMs but it's not terribly difficult to follow something like this http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/build_a_500_pc_play_crysis_40fps?page=0,0. The article even has build instructions, you cannot possibly go wrong. Heck I'll put the bloody thing together for you if you give me $50 and a few bottle of coke (that includes an overnight stress test).
I don't know what $500 is in Australian currency though. :|

$500 dollars here would get you a "cutting-edge" '04-'06 system nowadays.
 
If you don't need to buy a monitor $500 should do you fine. "Cutting-edge" is a pointless concept though in PC gaming, relevant only to those with wads of disposable income. The cost:benefit ratio gets worse the closer to top-end you get.
 
If you don't need to buy a monitor $500 should do you fine. "Cutting-edge" is a pointless concept though in PC gaming, relevant only to those with wads of disposable income. The cost:benefit ratio gets worse the closer to top-end you get.
I recently purchased a $299 Samsung 1440x900 monitor for my aging PC, and the resolution on my CRT TV actually looks crisper, and I'm using a DVI signal, not VGA. AND that's with rebate.

Any higher resolution would put too much strain on my old cards with relatively newer games than those from '06.
 
I'm using a two year old rig with an old 19'' monitor and I have no problem running them.

Consoles are too expensive, aside from the initial price games are two to three times more expensive that PC titles (even the same ones).
 
I don't know what $500 is in Australian currency though. :|

$500 dollars here would get you a "cutting-edge" '04-'06 system nowadays.
God, how about clicking the link? It's $500 US for a complete box, and that was like 6 months ago. Meaning, around $450 by now.

You probably have all of these things so you can save a lot of money and just get a video card, processor and memory for about $250.

Just pick the same ones they picked and follow the guide to install the stuff if you need.
Our pick of a 4870 graphics card came through when the lean machine delivered 122 frames per second in Unreal Tournament III, 30 frames per second more than the dual-8800 GTX-equipped zero point.
Nuff said. Consoles completely ass kicked.

Console version of Unreal III runs at only 30fps in lower resolution and lower texture quality
 
I used to say I'd never buy a console, but in the end I bought xbox 360 and ps3. I don't really feel any need for mouse and keyboard in fps games when I'm playing sp, I mean sp isn't competitive.

Plus with the consoles I don't have to worry about drivers or anything. I just throw the disc in and it works, if it doesn't I'll send the machine for repairs. No more of that devious searching for the broken parts, checking memory, checking the motherboard, getting another motherboard to check the components again, using multimeter to check voltages are steady and alright etc. And lastly the pain of software problems, OS running slow on normal usage. Again going trough the components. Of course when it's software I could just be a f retard and reinstall windows and put on the "i haz computar knowldz" -hat on. But then again I really haven't had any OS related software problems. I've had windows since the lauch of xp and haven't had a single crash (neither on vista or win7).

On competitive mp games pc rocks. But here the components come in, getting the smooth must fps, making sure configs are right etc. Of course I could just play like a casual donk but that wouldn't be much different from consoles. Brings back the good old q2 memories where one would have to have like three different fps settings binded for jumping in different situations and a computer that could run those fps's and polaks playing with software renderer :p.

Prices for console games tend to be sick, on release day. Most of the games I've bought cost me around 10e (usually 6 months old). Some games are cheap on lauch, like Halo ODST (mine cost 29e, pre-order). Usually the price argument just falls to the point where it's just clear that most of the pc players just warez the games, then lie to them selfs that they'll buy the game if its good.
 
My 360 has no other purpose than collect dust.
Mine too. I bought it so I could play games like Bioshock and Fable 2, but I am done with both and got a new gaming PC so I have absolutely no reason for it anymore. Combine that with the fact that it can't do porn due to lack of a browser and wireless networking and can't do HD porn due to lack of a Blu-ray drive and frankly, its just not that great a machine.

Oh, and its already been announced that the 250GB drive for the 360 will NOT be sold separately. Yet another drawback. :O
 
I recently purchased a $299 Samsung 1440x900 monitor for my aging PC, and the resolution on my CRT TV actually looks crisper, and I'm using a DVI signal, not VGA. AND that's with rebate.

Any higher resolution would put too much strain on my old cards with relatively newer games than those from '06.

22" 5ms Samsung 2243BW+ $239 AUD (my earlier link was USD, all prices I post should be considered USD unless I otherwise specify). Keeping in mind the Aussie dollar is worse than USD I've rather puzzled at how you paid so much. Your CRT may look better because whilst it may be a $200 panel it's still a budget panel. If you want quality get a high end Sammy/Dell. My general purpose BenQ 22" (What I use for practically everything that doesn't require two jumbo screens) suits me just fine.

Usually the price argument just falls to the point where it's just clear that most of the pc players just warez the games, then lie to them selfs that they'll buy the game if its good.

That's nice. I'd say first your full of it and second why do you need to throw in some holier than thou argument?
 
250GB Xbox 360 coming For Modern Warfare 2

so does that mean there'll be a stand alone 250gb hardrive for sale? if so it'd better cost no more than $40 ..who am I kidding? it'll probably retail for as much as a subcompact car
 
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