3 Strikes and You Are Out Mr. Bush

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This was originally posted at the DU, sue me :rolleyes:. Its a great read and makes a great case of Bush's **** ups that caused thousands upon thousands of lives.

"Fool me once, shame on... shame on... you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again." -- GW Bush, 9/17/02

Miserable Failure. The first hit after googling this phrase leads you to George W. Bush's bio page on the White House website and has for a very long time.

But I don't think that "miserable failure" can even begin to describe the ineptitude of this cabal. Over the past few years, it's been one miserable failure after another. So many, in fact, that one can't even list them all lest they're writing a novel that would take up more shelf space than a copy of War and Peace. So lets just examine a few, shall we?

MISERABLE FAILURE #1: 9/11

A summary of pre, during and post-9/11 failures for your reading pleasure

A couple of highlights that seem extremely relevant right now:

This administration claimed it had "no warning" whatsoever. Condoleezza Rice even said, "I don't think anyone could have predicted that these people... would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." However, the fact is that in addition to many warnings and intelligence information received prior to 9/11 - including evidence of using a plane as a missile - the Presidential Daily Briefing from August 6, 2001 titled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" stated that Al Qaeda planned to hijack US planes and mentioned the World Trade Center specifically.

When calls for an independent commission investigation into 9/11 were made, the Bush administration did everything they could to stop it. Bush and Cheney went so far as to personally call Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle urging him not to conduct an investigation. When stonewalling was no longer affective and the Independent Commission finally began its work, Bush used Nixon's dictatorial doctrine of "Executive Privilege" to deny commissioners access to crucial documents. Condi Rice initially refused to testify under oath or in public, but finally relented under extreme public pressure. Bush insisted on testifying with Cheney at his side, in private, not under oath, and with no transcripts or recordings made.

They stalled, they lied about easily refutable facts, they hid under a veil of secrecy and attempted to point the finger at anyone possible but themselves - the ones in charge. A "blame game", if you will.

2,749 men, women and children lost their lives on 9/11.

MISERABLE FAILURE #2: THE WAR IN IRAQ

Oh man, where does one even begin with this debacle? We could start with how it was pre-planned, from evidence spanning from memos (1, 2) from their own right-wing thing tank The Project For A New American Century to the leaked British Downing Street Minutes, but the administration has emphatically insisted that Bush didn't decide to invade Iraq until the 11th hour when all other avenues had been exhausted.

Or perhaps we could examine some of the multitude of quotes from the administration about how the Iraq war was going to be a "cakewalk", that the Iraqi's would greet the US troops with "flowers", how Iraq's own oil would pay for this war, or how both Cheney and Rumsfeld insisted we would be in Iraq "weeks, not months".

Maybe we could delve into those infamous Weapons of Mass Destruction and the "imminent threat" that they posed to the United States. *cue nefarious-sounding doom music* We could talk about how they continued to lie and make claims they already knew were false, like that scary yellowcake from Niger. Fortunately, I think the whole WMD discussion can be simply summed up with the findings of the official commission: "We were dead wrong".

As of this writing, there have been 1892 US troops killed in Iraq and has spent nearly $200 billion dollars, with no end in sight.

Not only has nobody from this administration accepted any responsibility for any of the miserable failures in Iraq, but they have blamed everyone from Army Reserve Privates to the intelligence agencies instead. "Blame game" indeed.

MISERABLE FAILURE #3: HURRICANE KATRINA

This disaster and the failures surrounding this are still unfolding by the minute. There is so much information that it's hard to keep up (such is the case with this administration). Rest assured that there are journalists, bloggers and concerned citizens everywhere documenting this information carefully as it happens.

FEMA was a single, independent agency from it's inception in 1978 by Jimmy Carter. In 2003, it became part of the Department of Homeland Security, which federalized the agency under an executive cabinet. FEMA has basically been gutted since and partially privatized. To head the "new and improved FEMA", Bush appointed Michael D. Brown. Previously, Brown was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association but was forced to resign amid allegations of incompetence and an onslaught of lawsuits. Of course, he DID have emergency response experience in his background - he was the assistant city manager with emergency services oversight in Edmond, Oklahoma in the 1970's. But cut the guy a break - he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once.

Now that we have the who's who and what does what out of the way, let's get down to the nitty gritty.

First, let's just get this out of the way:

FRIDAY, AUGUST 26TH

GOVERNOR BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR LOUISIANA

http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=...


SATURDAY, AUGUST 27TH

http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=...

GOVERNOR BLANCO ASKS PRESIDENT BUSH TO DECLARE A FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR LOUISIANA


SUNDAY, AUGUST 28TH

MAYOR NAGIN DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND ORDERS THE LARGEST MANDATORY EVACUATION OF A MAJOR CITY IN HISTORY

BUSH ISSUES DISASTER DECLARATIONS FOR LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI

There are Bushbots out there that actually believe that local officials never declared a State of Emergency nor requested any federal help for days. As you can see, that is clearly horseshit. Of course, Bushbots are by nature functionally retarded when it comes to silly things like "facts", but there you have it.

The original poster goes on, I suggest everyone reads it.
 
You should join the totalbf2 forums, there are way to much righties there, who just bitch abiut how great bush is and liberals and the rest of the world are asshole pussies. unlike you I just don't have the stamina to argue with them.
 
Grey Fox said:
You should join the totalbf2 forums, there are way to much righties there, who just bitch abiut how great bush is and liberals and the rest of the world are asshole pussies. unlike you I just don't have the stamina to argue with them.
If I played a little more BF2 I would. I argue here since I've been around here for so damn long.

However, I recommend you read places like http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss ; its a great resource.
 
Grey Fox said:
You should join the totalbf2 forums, there are way to much righties there, who just bitch abiut how great bush is and liberals and the rest of the world are asshole pussies. unlike you I just don't have the stamina to argue with them.

Maybe we could mix the bunch and make it even, there are way too many libs on these forums yet I still come here and post my thoughts every now and then where I see fit. So don't ask No Limit to think for you and step up to the plate and debate back. Theres no point in trying to win at the internet, beating the other side isn't the point. It is all about learning and finding ways to improve, so if you can't do that then don't bother.

However, I recommend you read places like http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss ; its a great resource.

Oh noes! Is this No Limit reading a biased source? Hmm, I thought by the way you condemn anything non far left that you figured biased sources were garbage. Hmm, this may be a breakthrough.
 
Glirk Dient said:
It is all about learning and finding ways to improve, so if you can't do that then don't bother.
So why do you still bother? You haven't been able to refute any points I made since you joined this board yet you still spew your bullshit about how unamerican I am. You haven't learned anything, don't bother.
 
That's because I don't spend my time looking up articles for sources and read through all of them. I play too many games to do so. Really the only time I post anymore is when servers are down, or I when I am waiting. I don't try to win at the internet, so I don't care if you spew liberal propaganda all over, as I have my stances and you have yours so I could care less to try and change that.
 
Glirk Dient said:
That's because I don't spend my time looking up articles for sources and read through all of them. I play too many games to do so. Really the only time I post anymore is when servers are down, or I when I am waiting. I don't try to win at the internet, so I don't care if you spew liberal propaganda all over, as I have my stances and you have yours so I could care less to try and change that.
Your stances are wrong when you can't defend them. I post facts to back up what I say, you post a bunch of bullshit and expect to be taken seriously. Like I said, don't bother.
 
Glirk Dient said:
Maybe we could mix the bunch and make it even, there are way too many libs on these forums yet I still come here and post my thoughts every now and then where I see fit. So don't ask No Limit to think for you and step up to the plate and debate back. Theres no point in trying to win at the internet, beating the other side isn't the point. It is all about learning and finding ways to improve, so if you can't do that then don't bother.
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Hoe about if I ask the righties on totalb2 to join this forum.
 
Glirk Dient said:
That's because I don't spend my time looking up articles for sources and read through all of them.

You can't hold a reasonable debate without an informed opinion.
 
jondy said:
You can't hold a reasonable debate without an informed opinion.
Nor should you be allowed to vote without an informed opinion.
 
No Limit said:
Nor should you be allowed to vote without an informed opinion.

Who is the judge, jury and executioner when it comes to deciding who is informed enough to vote? I'm sure dubya would be more than happy to take those three roles on.
 
No Limit said:
Nor should you be allowed to vote without an informed opinion.

EDIT: Heh, Kirov's quicker. And your name reminds me of chicken Kievs.
 
jondy said:
EDIT: Heh, Kirov's quicker. And your name reminds me of chicken Kievs.

Chicken Kievs. Nature's final unsolved conundrum.
 
Bush this...Bush that = Bushshit. It's ok to debate a little bit...but to hear this over and over again....it gets pretty sick. Now I agree that Bush is not the ideal leader, but I don't care anymore. If you stay on this subject too long, you just get dragged down into a deep pit filled with sloggans like "Bush sucks!!" "Bush is gay!!" and it gets old really quick. If you learned to not think about this every 2 seconds...the world would be a better place.
 
I think we're just using the only viable tactic we can to try to get hard-core Republicans to at least acknowledge the possible validity of our opinions: By relentlessly beating this information into the general public's psyche through rhetoric.
 
Maybe you shouldnt be able to vote if you do not pay taxes.
 
Only intelligent discussion has any chance of ever changing anything, so theres nothing wrong with a healthy debate.

Stigmata, do you know your sig is actually a quote from Dr. Perry Cox, from Scrubs? Great show. :E
 
Stigmata said:
I think we're just using the only viable tactic we can to try to get hard-core Republicans to at least acknowledge the possible validity of our opinions: By relentlessly beating this information into the general public's psyche through rhetoric.

We see validity there but theres too many extremists bashing for us to not defend ourselves instead of come to an agreement. I post often only to thwart the extremist lefties who are simply bashing and fear mongering.
 
Fear mongering? You mean kinda like what bush does/did saying how a dirty bomb could wipe out a city and that saddam had WMD's? Or like what he does in his speechs by constantly saying terrorist/terrorism over 100 times expecting us to think that "terrorism" was a threat to everyone....yet I haven't been attacked by a terrorist so far?

Oh what about this bullshit "war on terrorism" that he started, yet he basically let Osama Bin Laden escape?Hell...I'm not even a leftie or rightie yet I can see it's all bullshit.
 
it's more than apparent that some people didnt read the first post ..they saw the word "Bush" in the title and went directly to "quick reply"
 
Agreed. And Glirk, you sound exceedingly petty, arguing your point without a single shred of tangible evidence under your oh-so conservative belt.
 
Glirk Dient said:
Oh noes! Is this No Limit reading a biased source? Hmm, I thought by the way you condemn anything non far left that you figured biased sources were garbage. Hmm, this may be a breakthrough.

Oh noes! Is this Glirk Dient being patronising and not contributing to the arguement beyond flames and trolling? Oh yes, it is!
 
CptStern said:
it's more than apparent that some people didnt read the first post ..they saw the word "Bush" in the title and went directly to "quick reply"


Isn't that the usual.
 
CptStern said:
it's more than apparent that some people didnt read the first post ..they saw the word "Bush" in the title and went directly to "quick reply"
Wise words captain.
 
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