4 New L4D DLC Videos Including "Survival Mode" & IGN Hands-on

[hool10]

Why you guys hating on Hool? That last comment was hella insighful. :arms:

Goddamn Shiva Stacking.

Yeah, just because I had to cave in and cater to you guys I still get flamed! When you shut down TF2 or any Source game, the program crashes. It gives you that message of it shutting down incorrectly. Well Valve has "fixed" this at least twice and including that Steam update. Did Valve fix the bug or they pulling another BF2 trick on us? *Also I will pay for DLC if it's enough content and isn't buggy and is worth it. This stuff should have been with the game.

They are unlike Bethesda, which not only releases poorly coded and designed games for full price, but also releases poorly designed and badly executed additional content you have to pay for.

1. Poorly coded matchmaking system? Check.
2. Bad designing with shiva stacking? Check.
3. Is it full price? Almost, it's $50.
4. Bad additional content? Valve could have done better.

That would require like half a year for Valve to release something found in your typical DLC though.

 

[Operational]

They are not getting any revenue from additional content they release, effectively generating loss, since they invest hours and effort for no substantial profit.

The updates generate a profit via the significant increase of sales after their release.

 

[DarkevilPT]

1. Poorly coded matchmaking system? Check.
2. Bad designing with shiva stacking? Check.
3. Is it full price? Almost, it's $50.
4. Bad additional content? Valve could have done better.

That would require like half a year for Valve to release something found in your typical DLC though.

Agree, Agree, Agree, I couldn't agree more..
I wonder if i spent better money on L$D than for COD5. (Dont get confused i like both) But Left 4 Dead isn't just at the point i wanted it to be.. still COD5 GameZombie mode its even the best survival mode i ever seen.. that kind of survival should be incorporated to L4D as well. Not Timers to see how long u survive that is just crap..

 

[Jintor]

I still think L4D was/is worth the money I paid for it.

DLC is still free extra stuff, from this point of view.

 

[Eejit]

We all agree the game is fine and playable but still, less weapons than the others.. a crappy matchmaking system that impossibility u to d/l new maps.. and just 2 playable maps in the totalgame (+2 but only for the campaign) its a little hybrid.. and the survival mode.. isn't going to increase anything in the game.. I was hoping in some different strategy inside the game with the DLC like the COD5 for example where u can kill faster a zombie with only a headshot and u have less quantity increasing and going from slower to fast.. that would be the best.. i agree with hool10

The game doesn't need any more weapons, the main niches are all filled.
Two playable campaigns in versus, four in campaign mode, but 5 maps per campaign.

...you can kill zombies faster with headshots in L4D too, are you only playing on easy difficulty or something?

 

[DarkevilPT]

I still think L4D was/is worth the money I paid for it.

DLC is still free extra stuff, from this point of view.

The Game is Crashed Since u Can't D/L new maps for it.. so u will only get the same every time u play it.. thats an huge BUG for the actual games.. Still Hoping by the SDK to Fix that would be the best from valve to correct their game.. and not to ruining it by the survival mods timers..

SDK Left 4 Dead Unchecked
MatchMaking Not as i Expected / Since u can't go direct to your own server...

...you can kill zombies faster with headshots in L4D too, are you only playing on easy difficulty or something?

lolol So what do u think the survival pack will give more to the game? I was saying a new strategy for the game maybe an only hordes Play where u can only kill hordes even the hordes doesn't look like zombies in left 4 dead.. this is what pisses me off more...
They're numerously, and also too easy to kill.. maybe the inverse strategy could give a better mode that is what i'm saying

 

[Reginald]

If this genuinely gets rid of corner camping (for this game mode) I will love this. If not... it'll still be fun anyway! :E Does it have its own versus mode for it? I'd love to smoker people off the lighthouse.

But I expect most of my time will be with the two new Versus campaigns. I feel I hardly know Dead Air and Death Toll purely because I play 10 versus games to every 1 campaign.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

The Game is Crashed Since u Can't D/L new maps for it.. so u will only get the same every time u play it.. thats an huge BUG for the actual games.. Still Hoping by the SDK to Fix that would be the best from valve to correct their game.. and not to ruining it by the survival mods timers..

You can't properly make maps yet, until they release the SDK. It's a reasonable assumption that the framework for downloading new maps will be added at that point.

MatchMaking Not as i Expected / Since u can't go direct to your own server...

"openserverbrowser" at console
I've had my own server for a couple of months now, and play on that exclusively with no issues.

 

[DarkevilPT]

You can't properly make maps yet, until they release the SDK. It's a reasonable assumption that the framework for downloading new maps will be added at that point.



"openserverbrowser" at console
I've had my own server for a couple of months now, and play on that exclusively with no issues.

Do u use the English Default Steam?
because if u try other languages u will get some issues to put the console and to open that! Still yeah i agree there is that option..

 

[Jintor]

The Game is Crashed Since u Can't D/L new maps for it.. so u will only get the same every time u play it.. thats an huge BUG for the actual games.. Still Hoping by the SDK to Fix that would be the best from valve to correct their game.. and not to ruining it by the survival mods timers..

SDK Left 4 Dead Unchecked
MatchMaking Not as i Expected / Since u can't go direct to your own server...

I can't tell what the hell you're actually saying. If you're saying there is an inability to play custom maps on L4D as is, a quick glance at 'Youtube Left4Dead Mods' will prove you quite wrong. The SDK's imminent release will make it a lot easier though.

I keep forgetting 'openserverbrowser' isn't enabled by default.

 

[the cow says moo]

even the hordes doesn't look like zombies in left 4 dead.. this is what pisses me off more...
They're numerously, and also too easy to kill.. maybe the inverse strategy could give a better mode that is what i'm saying

Yes, the hordes in L4D do look like zombies. The zombies are supposed to be fast, numerous, and easy to kill.

 

[DarkevilPT]

Yes, the hordes in L4D do look like zombies. The zombies are supposed to be fast, numerous, and easy to kill.

Wrong, Zombies don't think, their brain doesn't work.
They follow the smell of blood so they are fast because of it and want blood, they are infected so they only die with an headshot.. i used to see games where they could to crawl that doesn't happen in left 4 dead.

and why? Because in Left 4 Dead there is no Zombie Virus its the Rage Virus.. 28 days later its just changing minds.. I prefer the classic virus from Resident Evil makes more sense when the virus is the blood. Rage virus? What is this? Is humans becoming dogs?
I don't approve any comments from u guys saying left 4 dead is beautifull and perfect because its not.. it need updates maybe the SDK fix all the craps.. and give more perfectionism. The hordes are all the same they don't walk the the shoulders in front.. they run like the normal people.. U don't see the zombies walking without a shoulder, leg... maybe the too legs.. its pretty clear that there are no zombies in this game.. its just rage virus.. not zombies.. the only thing that make the part of the zombies clear is the bosses and still what does rage has to do with metamorphose?

Well now i know there will be more critics to me.. i don't care.. i know what i wrote.. i don't need anyone to tell me i'm wrong.. I'm not going to kiss valve's ass on this.. I know they are good.. but they weren't good enough for this game... sorry its my opinion (they could made it better).

 

[Sheepo]

This is hilarious.

 

[Asknoone]

Hool, you're such a tool. I don't think you ever know what you are talking about.

 

[Eejit]

Yeah, clearly Resident Evil's Hollywood Science is far superior to Left 4 Dead's Hollywood Science! You tell 'em manhack!

 

[knut]

Wrong, Zombies don't think, their brain doesn't work.
They follow the smell of blood so they are fast because of it and want blood, they are infected so they only die with an headshot.. i used to see games where they could to crawl that doesn't happen in left 4 dead.

and why? Because in Left 4 Dead there is no Zombie Virus its the Rage Virus.. 28 days later its just changing minds.. I prefer the classic virus from Resident Evil makes more sense when the virus is the blood. Rage virus? What is this? Is humans becoming dogs?
I don't approve any comments from u guys saying left 4 dead is beautifull and perfect because its not.. it need updates maybe the SDK fix all the craps.. and give more perfectionism. The hordes are all the same they don't walk the the shoulders in front.. they run like the normal people.. U don't see the zombies walking without a shoulder, leg... maybe the too legs.. its pretty clear that there are no zombies in this game.. its just rage virus.. not zombies.. the only thing that make the part of the zombies clear is the bosses and still what does rage has to do with metamorphose?

Well now i know there will be more critics to me.. i don't care.. i know what i wrote.. i don't need anyone to tell me i'm wrong.. I'm not going to kiss valve's ass on this.. I know they are good.. but they weren't good enough for this game... sorry its my opinion (they could made it better).

Dr. Darkevil Pt, BA (Zoms) Zombie Fiction, PhD Zombie Theory.

 

[Jintor]

Wrong, Zombies don't think, their brain doesn't work.
They follow the smell of blood so they are fast because of it and want blood, they are infected so they only die with an headshot.. i used to see games where they could to crawl that doesn't happen in left 4 dead.

and why? Because in Left 4 Dead there is no Zombie Virus its the Rage Virus.. 28 days later its just changing minds.. I prefer the classic virus from Resident Evil makes more sense when the virus is the blood. Rage virus? What is this? Is humans becoming dogs?
I don't approve any comments from u guys saying left 4 dead is beautifull and perfect because its not.. it need updates maybe the SDK fix all the craps.. and give more perfectionism. The hordes are all the same they don't walk the the shoulders in front.. they run like the normal people.. U don't see the zombies walking without a shoulder, leg... maybe the too legs.. its pretty clear that there are no zombies in this game.. its just rage virus.. not zombies.. the only thing that make the part of the zombies clear is the bosses and still what does rage has to do with metamorphose?

Well now i know there will be more critics to me.. i don't care.. i know what i wrote.. i don't need anyone to tell me i'm wrong.. I'm not going to kiss valve's ass on this.. I know they are good.. but they weren't good enough for this game... sorry its my opinion (they could made it better).

A game full of slow moving, shambling zombies, in a co-op multiplayer environment, would be boring as ****. We don't need your approval for us to approve of L4D; so what if the 'zombies' are 'rage' zombies instead? Call these freaks whatever you want, they're still trying to kill you! Are you having fun? Are you not having fun? If you're not having fun because of your retarded zombie prejudice, then gtfo! But if you're not having fun because of legitimate flaws in the game, keep talking. We're still listening, if only barely.

You're not the only one who's read the ZSG, but you're probably the only one here who thinks it applies to every zombie game ever.

 

[DarkevilPT]

A game full of slow moving, shambling zombies, in a co-op multiplayer environment, would be boring as ****. We don't need your approval for us to approve of L4D; so what if the 'zombies' are 'rage' zombies instead? Call these freaks whatever you want, they're still trying to kill you! Are you having fun? Are you not having fun? If you're not having fun because of your retarded zombie prejudice, then gtfo! But if you're not having fun because of legitimate flaws in the game, keep talking. We're still listening, if only barely.

You're not the only one who's read the ZSG, but you're probably the only one here who thinks it applies to every zombie game ever.

Ahaha, never read that ZSG u say.. Then if u think it would be boring i don't now if it would.. maybe it would or maybe that's the kind of survival mode that would make more sense.. i don't know.. still i'll stfu there is nothing i can do about it...

 

[Sheepo]

Left 4 Dead could not be fun if the zombies were slow. The pacing would be all wrong, to make it work you'd need to completely change the game.

 

[DarkevilPT]

Left 4 Dead could not be fun if the zombies were slow. The pacing would be all wrong, to make it work you'd need to completely change the game.

Well then its, fine.. Play it like that and struggle it with more survival mods..

 

[Sheepo]

I'm having a hard time understanding you.

 

[Jintor]

He said he pities us for having fun.

 

[hool10]

I think I know what Dark is saying because he is my friend. Many people don't like how the zombies basically run at you and beat you up and then you beat them up. It could be the next Super Punch Out game. In fact they have been said they more resemble an angry Zombie Day crowd beating up on people. Let's face it too, they have rabies so they should be biting you. Personally I would have like crawling zombies or even zombies with no arms. The scariest thing for me was a zombie with no head that ran after me in L4D. Many of the things Dark is talking about will be fixed with the SDK and I keep telling him this. There will be mods with Nazi Zombies one day because Nazi Zombies are cool.

Many people are also leaving L4D every day. The rage quitters, etc have all taken a toll on this game. At least 2 months ago Football Manager has more people playing than L4D every day. It's just losing that support like TF2. Until Valve releases something, the numbers will go back up and go back down. I don't see the numbers going back down too much when the SDK is released though.

 

[Asknoone]

I think I know what Dark is saying because he is my friend.

Idiots United. How quaint.

 

[Wanted Bob]

I was perfectly satisfied with Left 4 Dead as it was, so free content is always a good thing in my books. Looks like a lot of fun too.

Actually, one thing I wish would be fixed is more dedicated servers. Sometimes it takes 15 minutes to find one.

 

[hool10]

Idiots United. How quaint.

I think Samon is asking for me to beat him up again in L4D.

 

[Asknoone]

Didn't you ragequit before you had the chance?

 

[the cow says moo]

This thread is pure gold.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Spam gold.

 

[Jintor]

I think I know what Dark is saying because he is my friend. Many people don't like how the zombies basically run at you and beat you up and then you beat them up. It could be the next Super Punch Out game. In fact they have been said they more resemble an angry Zombie Day crowd beating up on people. Let's face it too, they have rabies so they should be biting you. Personally I would have like crawling zombies or even zombies with no arms. The scariest thing for me was a zombie with no head that ran after me in L4D. Many of the things Dark is talking about will be fixed with the SDK and I keep telling him this. There will be mods with Nazi Zombies one day because Nazi Zombies are cool.

Many people are also leaving L4D every day. The rage quitters, etc have all taken a toll on this game. At least 2 months ago Football Manager has more people playing than L4D every day. It's just losing that support like TF2. Until Valve releases something, the numbers will go back up and go back down. I don't see the numbers going back down too much when the SDK is released though.

It's odd then, that despite the lack of people playing L4D i can never find a server.

Obviously Valve has ****ed their matchmaking code over more than I had previously suspected.

 

[Fiberawptic]

It's odd then, that despite the lack of people playing L4D i can never find a server.

Obviously Valve has ****ed their matchmaking code over more than I had previously suspected.

Except for the fact L4D is NOT lacking in active players. Its one of the most active games on steam right now...

 

[Jintor]

Dude. Sarcasm.