6 completely legal ways the cops can screw you

[flamingdts]

Good judgement is something that you either have or you don't. "Common sense." It's not really something you can measure. But you can clearly see it in people. I know a lot of "smart" people that are ignorant morons in that department. Being tazered doesn't give you better judgement on whether to use it or not. If your main question of whether to use a tazer or not was that you think it didn't hurt, you should not have been allowed to progress that far in police academy in the first place.

That's not true. If good judgment is simply something you have or don't have, then that would mean a 4 year old could make better and smarter decisions than a 30 year old grown man with a proper job.

Obviously, it's not a statistical value, and you can't measure judgment. But you could be trained over the years to make better decisions. We make judgments based on our knowledge of the situation and it's surrounding area. Thus, in a car crash, a doctor would make better judgments on how to handle the victims involved compared to a regular person.

A police officer is trained to observe and analyze the situation. They are trained to make good judgment of the situation.

And of course being tazered doesn't give you better judgment. I said being tazered enables them to know the type of pain they are inflicting amongst an individual. They need to know how much it hurts, and by knowing how much it hurts, they will think twice before using it. That itself is a step to making good judgments.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

yeah **** the POLICE.

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Lot of retarded cop bashing ITT

 

[ramsfan]

Um...

How about the fact that in the police academy they teach you how to react to different situations? That itself is teaching you to have better judgment. Of course you could be trained to have better judgment. Why do you think being tazered is part of their training? They have to experience what it feels like to be tazered in order to know what exactly they are inflicting amongst an individual. This grants them the ability to judge whether the use of a tazer is warranted in different situations.

Of course, the problem is most cops have poor judgment. Their poor training being a huge reason to that. I think the number of fat cops you see around should indicate the quality of most police officers nowadays.

Not that it matters, but police officers don't get tazed in the academy. They only get tazed if there departments allow tazers to be carried.

Btw flamingdt, usually when I am arguing with someone about police officers all I get is THERE PIGS, or the only good cop is a dead cop. Glad to see someone with some smarts that can argue the other side rightly.

Officers are trained to be very observant. There trained to judge in situations but its all done with scenarios. I don't know how much doing scenarios with your fellow cadets or actors helps judgment when you know its not the real thing. Real cop life is a lot different than that of the academy. But they do teach you do be very observant of your suspects.

 

[xcellerate]

Not that it matters, but police officers don't get tazed in the academy. They only get tazed if there departments allow tazers to be carried.

This is bullshit too. I used to be in a car club that had an officer in it and he was talking about how they had to be maced so they 'knew what it felt like'. **** you.

When cops get maced they get in a nice comfortable environment, buddies are standing by, they get a tiny dose of the device then they get carried over to a resting spot to relax it off and wash their eyes out. In real life you get tackled by 4 cops all trying to move in in different directions while they scream "stop resisting" then they spray half a bottle into your retina, scream in your ear that you shouldn't have run, handcuffed, dragged back to a police car and tossed in the backseat to let the mace marinate in your eye ball. So don't ****ing sit there Mr. Officer and tell me you 'know what it feels like'.

"This one time somebody was reaching for their drink and their hand bumped my cheek, so I totally know what it's like to be punched by Bruce Lee."

 

[ramsfan]

This is bullshit too. I used to be in a car club that had an officer in it and he was talking about how they had to be maced so they 'knew what it felt like'. **** you.

When cops get maced they get in a nice comfortable environment, buddies are standing by, they get a tiny dose of the device then they get carried over to a resting spot to relax it off and wash their eyes out. In real life you get tackled by 4 cops all trying to move in in different directions while they scream "stop resisting" then they spray half a bottle into your retina, scream in your ear that you shouldn't have run, handcuffed, dragged back to a police car and tossed in the backseat to let the mace marinate in your eye ball. So don't ****ing sit there Mr. Officer and tell me you 'know what it feels like'.

"This one time somebody was reaching for their drink and their hand bumped my cheek, so I totally know what it's like to be punched by Bruce Lee."

Um first off I didn't say they don't get maced in the academy. I don't really get why you said **** you? And no they don't get to wash their eyes out at all. Instead they have to fight someone right after they get maced and then arrest them in the academy. They absolutely are not taken over to a resting spot. Its to prepare them in case they get maced or accidentally mace themselves.

 

[xcellerate]

i wasn't getting upset with you, it's towards that officer. I mentioned mace because he did and it's a similar process with tazing. But tazing is just as stupid because they get a much more pleasant experience than they give to 'citizens'. The cop I talked to said when they get maced they have a bowl of water where they can rinse their eyes out, there was no mention of an after-mace fight...but it could be different in different areas.

I just haven't had enough pleasant experiences to make up for all the police bullshit I've put up with. Years ago my friend got stopped in his R32 for having an 'aftermarket' exhaust. The cop was too ****ing stupid to know what a stock exhaust sounds/looks like, and when my friend told him it was stock the cop says, "I was a cop for 10 years in california and I know an aftermarket exhaust when I hear it!" Obviously you don't! I just ****ing hate the 'what I believe is correct' attitude.

 

[CptStern]

The cop I talked to said when they get maced they have a bowl of water where they can rinse their eyes out, there was no mention of an after-mace fight...but it could be different in different areas.

this is also the norm in canada. my police officer buddy described his mace training exactly as you describe it. there was no "fighting" while maced. also my cop buddy is the first to admit cops pull power trips all the time. their attitide is they can so they do

 

[ramsfan]

i wasn't getting upset with you, it's towards that officer. I mentioned mace because he did and it's a similar process with tazing. But tazing is just as stupid because they get a much more pleasant experience than they give to 'citizens'. The cop I talked to said when they get maced they have a bowl of water where they can rinse their eyes out, there was no mention of an after-mace fight...but it could be different in different areas.

I just haven't had enough pleasant experiences to make up for all the police bullshit I've put up with. Years ago my friend got stopped in his R32 for having an 'aftermarket' exhaust. The cop was too ****ing stupid to know what a stock exhaust sounds/looks like, and when my friend told him it was stock the cop says, "I was a cop for 10 years in california and I know an aftermarket exhaust when I hear it!" Obviously you don't! I just ****ing hate the 'what I believe is correct' attitude.

The difference in areas could be it. Some police academy's are much easier than others. Which is really dumb because shouldn't they be all just as difficult? The police academy that I know a lot about is taught as a bootcamp. It is one of the only ones if not the only one that is run this way in the state.

Oh man California? That state must be the worse. So many stupid rules and regulations. I'm assuming the cop though you needed a new exhaust system and you were putting too many emissions into the air? The cop should have just looked! lol. In Michigan there isn't even vehicle inspections you have do. I drove without a cadilac converter or muffler for over a year lol.

You should blame more the system in California, anal mofos.

 

[Solaris]

I'm not a fan of the police in Ireland. In England one time I rang 999 at work and was put on hold for 2minutes whilst there was a massive fight in my store, couldnt believe they actually put you on hold without knowing what kind of emergency it is.

 

[V-Man339]

I think my argument needs to reinstated.
My problem isn't with the cops, it's with the laws themselves that seem to be asking for abuse by "jerk cops."
Yes, there are good cops out there risking their lives daily, but the fact that the law allows them such a corrupting amount of power reflects darkly on them and what they do for us all. If the laws were fixed, I wouldn't have as much a problem with the jerk cops, the jerk cops would lose power, and I would stop bitching.
Thank you for understanding my argument.