A question for the cigarette smokers....

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Why?

Before you started smoking and you would sit around with friends, parents, or loved ones who smoked, did you sit there smelling that sweet, delicious 2nd hand smoke WISHING and YEARNING that your lungs could be the lucky tar filled lungs of the smokers?

Or was it each trip to the gas station where you watched your friends, parents, or loved ones shell out a mere $4 to $8 dollars for those 20 sticks of orgasmic pleasure.

Or was it simply your lust for the opposite sex with their seductive yellow teeth and unmistakable smoker's cough?

Did you decide one day your car didn't have that special smell, and the only way to fix it was to smoke, or maybe you thought the interior wasn't ashy or fogged up enough, or maybe you thought your car's pristine interior didn't have enough character so you needed to scar it up a bit with some burn holes to give it that special appearance.

Maybe it was the image; those sexy women holding that phallic object, slowly brining it to their lips to take a light puff, hold, and release the smoky mountain flavor into the air and then finish up with a gentle flick into this:
ashtray201ta4.jpg


Ah yes, the ashtray, the sexiest thing about smoking. God I love smokers, the 2nd sexiest thing a woman could do is smoke; which falls right after having a fetish for defecating on my chest and right before having a penis.

So which aspect of smoking was that it made you take that first puff?
 
I've been tempted before, mainly for social reasons, having friends and girlfriends that smoked ... but i've never seen the real point beyond 'blending in' with them. I've got by fine without joining in.

It's not hard to see why at least some people start smoking... it's a very social thing. It only takes one person in a group to start, and it quickly spreads.
 
Typically, people are indoctrinated during their teens, because "the cool people are doing it".

Telling smokers they've made bad choices and expecting them to change is like telling an alcoholic that soda tastes better.

-Angry LAwyer
 
I don't smoke and I think it's pretty nasty too, but damn, hearing people like you rant about it and seeing those stupid Truth commercials just makes me want to punch someone. It's not going to stop anyone and it's none of your concern anyway.
 
Markdude said:
I don't smoke and I think it's pretty nasty too, but damn, hearing people like you rant about it and seeing those stupid Truth commercials just makes me want to punch someone. It's not going to stop anyone and it's none of your concern anyway.
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Except I have to breath the shit everytime I walk out onto campus. Unlike most addictions, tobacco does affect others.
 
You also have to breathe car exhaust every time you step outside. And you have to breathe in the smell of your feces every time you go to the bathroom. Both of those are just about as harmful as second-hand smoke. Do you suggest we ban transportation via automobile and defecation?
 
Markdude said:
You also have to breathe car exhaust every time you step outside. And you have to breathe in the smell of your feces every time you go to the bathroom. Both of those are just about as harmful as second-hand smoke. Do you suggest we ban transportation via automobile and defecation?
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Neither of those are as harmful, and they are necessary evils. Just ****ing quit and don't make me breathe it.
 
I only smoke to be polite if everyone else is and someone is offering me a cigarette or cigar
 
Markdude said:
It's not going to stop anyone and it's none of your concern anyway.
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I'm not concerned that people are smoking. I'm curious as to why people start something they know is addictive for no reason; or at least no reasons that make sense and are good enough for something that has so many negatives, to me at least.

Even smokers I know said they didn't like smoking when they first tried it...so why did they keep doing it?

smoker: hey dude try this.
newbie: sure!....oh god that's awful!
smoker: yea it can be rough...
newbie: gimme that again, it was so terrible I want to try again.


and this shouldn't be a smoking vs other vices thread. I don't care if LSD is worse than tobacco, I just want to know what was so darn appealing to smokers in the first place.
 
MiccyNarc said:
Neither of those are as harmful, and they are necessary evils. Just ****ing quit and don't make me breathe it.
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Carbon monoxide is extremely deadly and is released in all car exhaust. Bacteria in the gas from feces can also be deadly. They all have the potential to kill - and sometimes do kill - just like second-hand smoke. But it's really not very common. Your health is at a minuscule risk by occasionally breathing in second-hand smoke. And pretty much every smoker is very aware that they are damaging their own health, but it's not stopping them and ranting isn't going to do much either.

I know it's not exactly pleasant to breathe in second-hand smoke, but c'mon, is it really that bad? I could understand it being horrible for someone who has asthma or something, but smoking doesn't offend me unless it's deliberately being done somewhere that it is not allowed.
 
A norm among certain teens, tbh if any of my friends just started it up at any point I'd be all wtf and kinda rejected them. Opposite effect comes from me compared to 'cool' guys.
 
xcellerate said:
I'm not concerned that people are smoking. I'm curious as to why people start something they know is addictive for no reason; or at least no reasons that make sense and are good enough for something that has so many negatives, to me at least.
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If you're honestly just curious, then why is your post so unnecessarily condescending? It is more of an attack than an inquiry, in my opinion.

I'll agree that it is dumb for someone to try something that they know beforehand is addictive and has many negatives, but that hasn't ever stopped humans before.

xcellerate said:
Even smokers I know said they didn't like smoking when they first tried it...so why did they keep doing it?
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"Smokers you know" is not every smoker in the world. It is all subjective. Not everyone thinks it's disgusting. And haven't you ever tried something once in your life and not cared for it, but then its appeal grew in time? The same thing can happen regarding tobacco to someone.
 
Markdude said:
"Smokers you know" is not every smoker in the world. It is all subjective. Not everyone thinks it's disgusting. And haven't you ever tried something once in your life and not cared for it, but then its appeal grew in time? The same thing can happen regarding tobacco to someone.
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Yeah, it's called Nicotine.
Most people I know who smoke, HATE it, they think it's so ****ING digusting, they wonder why they tried it in the first place. Then they go take a puff of the cigarette.
 
Smoking drunk -> smoking socially -> smoking drunk and socially and then it starts.

I f|_|cking hate tobacco.
 
Markdude said:
I don't smoke and I think it's pretty nasty too, but damn, hearing people like you rant about it and seeing those stupid Truth commercials just makes me want to punch someone. It's not going to stop anyone and it's none of your concern anyway.
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Markdude said:
If you're honestly just curious, then why is your post so unnecessarily condescending? It is more of an attack than an inquiry, in my opinion.

I'll agree that it is dumb for someone to try something that they know beforehand is addictive and has many negatives, but that hasn't ever stopped humans before.

"Smokers you know" is not every smoker in the world. It is all subjective. Not everyone thinks it's disgusting. And haven't you ever tried something once in your life and not cared for it, but then its appeal grew in time? The same thing can happen regarding tobacco to someone.
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I agree with everything you said.

This thread seems to me more like a strong critique expressed through a patronizingly superior manner rather than a simple question.
 
No, he just made a post with his opinion and brought up a few facts and then asked why people do it. This thread interests me aswell, because a lot of my friends smoke and they're so happy in destroying their lungs and health AND paying for it aswell. I mean, I don't do much exercise, but having to pay 3.80€ every two days just to screw up your body seems a bit over the top.

But as always: Carry on and don't point that thing at me. :p
 
Beerdude26 said:
No, he just made a post with his opinion and brought up a few facts and then asked why people do it. This thread interests me aswell, because a lot of my friends smoke and they're so happy in destroying their lungs and health AND paying for it aswell. I mean, I don't do much exercise, but having to pay 3.80? every two days just to screw up your body seems a bit over the top.

But as always: Carry on and don't point that thing at me. :p
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Well... usually in a debate you don't try to bring up your arguments using offending means like irony and exaggeration.

I would agree though that the debate seems particularly interesting and that we should go on with it.

On topic, I don't necessarily agree with this habit but I can understand the whole process that ultimately leads to its addictive use. I was tempted a couple of times to puff a cigarette just by the look of it. Strangely, smoking seems very appealing when you are in an environment where it's almost ubiquitous. The taste is just something you get used to I guess.
 
His tone was extremly condecending, to the point of "I'm better then you because you smoke and I don't".

Given his tone, I doubt hes looking to understand smokers, rather, gather ammo for his next tyrade, so his question about starting will go unanswered.

I will however give him this. Addiction to smoking is much like hunger.
When your body is low on food, it makes you desire food. You can ignore the instinct, but its unplesant. And the more you ignore it, the worse it gets. And satiating the desire is pleasurable.
This is why we "like" to pay for smokes. Its why we "like" to fill our lungs with tar. And its why we dislike condecending little pricks running around telling everyone their better than us. They arn't better, they just have different vices.

And in case anyones wondering why I've got my knickers in a twist over this, its because its shit like this thats caused the smoking ban in the UK.
 
I've asked other people I know about this and the response I usually get is something that amounts to "my parents did it and we wanted to be grown up/cool".
 
Link said:
His tone was extremly condecending, to the point of "I'm better then you because you smoke and I don't".

Given his tone, I doubt hes looking to understand smokers, rather, gather ammo for his next tyrade, so his question about starting will go unanswered.
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Bingo. I don't smoke and I can understand someone wanting to know why people do, but this thread seemed to be started with no real intentions other than trying to attack or offend smokers.

I am also extremely annoyed by people who find it necessary to protest smoking. Find something more productive to use your time on.
 
*Interesting video Stardog.

Being in the Navy, I never thought I'd find so many smokers in my life. You'd think they'd be smart enough to quit after not smoking for two months(boot camp), but I guess they couldn't resist that urge.

Every morning after quarters we head out to chow and muster at the, (you guessed it), smoke deck. Why? Because that's where everyone is and that's an identifiable location to gather everyone up. The smokers here outnumber us, nonsmokers, at least 5:1. And I talk to them, it's not like I shun them because of their(imo) bad choice. Nearly every smoker I talk to asks me for a cigarette, or if they don't know, if I have a cigarette I could bum. Followed by a not-so-uncommon, "Don't start, it's a bad habit." So even they acknowledge it was mistake smoking on their part. It must be a horrible addiction to kick. It's a shame.

So I'm glad I never joined the "in" group and refused to burn holes in my wallet and lungs.
 
Dan said:
Aren't you kind of stupid?
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lol, sorry. I just mean, it's polite to accept cigars/cigarettes, but it's just as polite to decline them if you don't want to. If you're afraid of offending someone by declining their offered cigarette, don't be, because that person deserves to be offended for being so stupid.
 
joule, if I was a serviceman I'd probably smoke too.

Who the **** cares if other people smoke? Grow some balls and deal with a little smoke in the air.
 
The reason I did my original post the way I did was so that I could not only cover all the reasons that I know of that explain why people smoke, but also give my view on that reason. This way you guys could either tell me how I'm wrong in my view, or offer a new reason as to why they smoke that I had left out.

And the reason why my tone is condescending with an "I'm better than you attitude" is because I am better than you, and because of that I have to speak with a condescending tone towards you. BTW, feel free the take the previous statement too seriously as well. :thumbs:


Everything I can think of tells me it's a stupid, expensive habit and there must be some part of life I'm missing if I don't feel like smoking when I'm standing with smokers, or I don't want a cigarette when I'm nervous, bored, or stressed, or if I didn't do it in high school so I could be cool. Clearly smokers felt or know something I don't so I just want to know why you started.

I'm sorry I'm such an asshole about it.
 
I don't get cigarettes, I do however partake of cigars a few times a month and they are lovely
 
I smoke every few days. Not tobacco though.

:cheese:
 
I could go without a lot of things, it's got very little to do with necessity. I more meant if I was in the Army or Marines and active in combat, I think that lung cancer and yellow teeth would be the least of my worries at that point.

I used to smoke quite a bit (skirting addiction but never quite getting there) both alone and socially, but I sort of stopped after I realized that I don't like cigarettes very much.

I usually just smoke hookah now, and cigarettes/cigars only when I'm drinking (or very occasionally if I'm smoking weed), because tobacco + alcohol or marijuana = win.
 
That did come off as slightly uppity, xcellerate, but I can see you were trying to be humorous, so I guess I can forgive you, pinklung.

For me it was just the tabooness of it I guess. I was surprised at how harsh it was the first time, but it felt like I was doing something "grown-up" (that was probably at about 12 or 13, I was steady smoking by 14).
 
Second hand smoke is the cause of many cases of cancer.
 
My parents (and most relatives I can think of) are reason enough not to smoke.
 
I would guess only live-in relatives would get cancer from second hand smoke. With all the other bad crap in the environment, I find it hard to believe a few random wisps of smoke would lead to insta-cancer...

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Markdude said:
Do you suggest we ban transportation via automobile and defecation?
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I am very much against transportation via defecation being banned.
 
It probably came from walking by a smoking area every day for 2-3 months, but I don't mind people smoking nearly as much as I used to. (Smell and such)

I still think it is pointlessly harmful, expensive, and shallow however.
 
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