A short compendium of anti-Chinese bias

[Dan]

There has been a recent hubbub of anti-Chinese sentiment and Tibet angst lately, and I've notice it has spilled over into these forums. I would hope that as generally well educated segment of society, the majority of you would have now learned when your news source has its own agenda. I've made a quick little montage of the main Western media channels using biased reporting, bending the truth, and outright lying to slander China in the last few months.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8697
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBuAau9VFA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtr5ajk0tQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfk860KUmj8

Ask yourself, why is an issue that hasn't seen any real change in the last half century suddenly been blown into the front pages of major newspapers and the screens of ABC, CNN, and the BBC. Read any recent CNN report mentioning China, and you see that every word they use is carefully picked to vilify China.

Some history of CIA involvement in Tibet:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JC26Ad02.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDBriDq4LRI&feature=related

Now imagine the Chinese government giving the same support to the IRA movement, or to the group in Wacko Texas.

 

[Raziaar]

You don't need vilifying for China to be a villain.

 

[The Monkey]

China is an authoritarian, bordering to totalitarian, dictatorship, therefore deserve the treatment it's getting. Any defence of China's policies also mean a defence of oppression, unlawful prosecusion, imprisonments, execution and torture of dissident and people opposing the Communist Party's view on political, social, economic, cultural and historical matters.

 

[Sulkdodds]

This is a difficult issue, because as Raz says it is still quite possible to be opposed to the Chinese government without having to be lied to. But by the same token, one does not need to support China to abhor the media twist. At the end of the day it is both desirable and absolutely necessary that these kind of bias issues be brought to everyone's attention - if we are to make reasonable decisions we must, at least, be aware of them - so thank you very much.

 

[Javert]

When you're a government banning the word "democracy" on Google.cn, there's a problem.

 

[lame-o]

Just because there's propaganda against China doesn't mean you have to support China. China has plenty of conspiracies against us too.

 

[Iliketobenaked]

like trying to hack the Pentagons Network a daily a couple hundred times.

 

[Dan]

So it's okay to lie about someone if you know that they are bad? Sounds like a great basis for a country. If the police know that some shady character is up to no good, but they can't pin it on him, they should just plant the evidence. You guys make me sick. I hope you enjoy having your minds made up for you by the handful of people with the most money.

 

[Direwolf]

So it's okay to lie about someone if you know that they are bad? Sounds like a great basis for a country. If the police know that some shady character is up to no good, but they can't pin it on him, they should just plant the evidence. You guys make me sick. I hope you enjoy having your minds made up for you by the handful of people with the most money.

Fuh? I don't even see a post that says that. The point is that whether they're bad or not is a seperate issue from whether they're also being villified in the media. BTW the whole "Free Tibet" thing is probably older than I am, it's just a big issue right now since protesters are aware that people are paying attention to China due to the Olympics.

 

[Dan]

Fuh? I don't even see a post that says that.

Really, you don't? Do you read English?

China is an authoritarian, bordering to totalitarian, dictatorship, therefore deserve the treatment it's getting. Any defence of China's policies also mean a defence of oppression, unlawful prosecusion, imprisonments, execution and torture of dissident and people opposing the Communist Party's view on political, social, economic, cultural and historical matters.

When you're a government banning the word "democracy" on Google.cn, there's a problem.

You don't need vilifying for China to be a villain.

I made a post about bias in Western media, saying nothing about Chinese policy or its government, and the majority of respondents say that it's okay to be told lies because China is bad.

 

[kirovman]

Whilst the Chinese government has dubious ethics, people fail to give them credit for things like lifting an enormous number of people out of poverty and starvation.

While they have a long way to go, they have come a long way already.

And it is annoying when people talk about it being a Totalitarian place (correction, it is authoritarian), without having experienced the place and realising that the UK is much more totalitarian.
In China, you're very free as long as you are middle class and not threatening the party's power.
In the UK, you're free as long as you aren't middle or working class, and are prepared to have the government micromanage everything for you.

 

[Iliketobenaked]

Really, you don't? Do you read English?





I made a post about bias in Western media, saying nothing about Chinese policy or its government, and the majority of respondents say that it's okay to be told lies because China is bad.

Thats being biased that's the truth.
What are you some kind of China Regime admirer?

 

[Sulkdodds]

Don't be so tiresome.

But by the same token, one does not need to support China to abhor the media twist.

 

[Iliketobenaked]

like I said in a other thread a good friend married a chick that lives in china right now still lives there.I can tell you that she she wants to come over here badly. lol

 

[repiV]

Whilst the Chinese government has dubious ethics, people fail to give them credit for things like lifting an enormous number of people out of poverty and starvation.

While they have a long way to go, they have come a long way already.

And it is annoying when people talk about it being a Totalitarian place (correction, it is authoritarian), without having experienced the place and realising that the UK is much more totalitarian.
In China, you're very free as long as you are middle class and not threatening the party's power.
In the UK, you're free as long as you aren't middle or working class, and are prepared to have the government micromanage everything for you.

Is there any escape from nanny state-style government anywhere in Europe?
I've been strongly considering making use of my TEFL certificate lately...

 

[Eejit]

Is there any escape from nanny state-style government anywhere in Europe?
I've been strongly considering making use of my TEFL certificate lately...

The ROI is pretty liberal

 

[repiV]

The ROI is pretty liberal

The question is, does all the alcohol make up for all the Christianity. :E

 

[kirovman]

Is there any escape from nanny state-style government anywhere in Europe?
I've been strongly considering making use of my TEFL certificate lately...

In the case of the Nanny State, the people have asked for it really. Many people complain about it, while they inadvertently ask for the government to intervene in private matters more. Its a crutch that they didn't necessarily need, but are now leaning more and more upon. The government are all too happy to provide this, knowing that they have invented a purpose for themselves to exist.

 

[repiV]

I see it like some kind of twisted mockery of a parent-child relationship. Patronising and galling in the extreme.
The other thing I hate about this country is that people in general are so ****ing serious and dull. Or maybe that's just London. Life is about living, not accumulating pointless wealth at all costs.
I'd like to live somewhere more fun and less stuck up. Somewhere like Spain, Greece or Trinidad perhaps.

 

[Dan]

I'd like to live somewhere more fun and less stuck up. Somewhere like Spain, Greece or Trinidad perhaps.

Pacific and Caribbean island nations have the reputation for being the most culturally laid back and easy going.

 

[Direwolf]

Really, you don't? Do you read English?
I made a post about bias in Western media, saying nothing about Chinese policy or its government, and the majority of respondents say that it's okay to be told lies because China is bad.

That was actually my point...those posts say that China is guilty of some pretty bad stuff. What they don't say is that its okay for the media to lie even if you agree with the sentiment. That's my point about them being two different issues.

 

[Dan]

What they don't say is that its okay for the media to lie even if you agree with the sentiment.

Please then good sir, tell me what this man is saying. I must don't speak English so good.

China is an authoritarian, bordering to totalitarian, dictatorship, therefore deserve the treatment it's getting.

 

[nurizeko]

I don't watch any of your American "news" sources and I hated the Chinese government based on human rights and such before it was cool.


The Chinese government don't deserve any sympathy or support from anyone, even its own people.

 

[jondy]

Please then good sir, tell me what this man is saying. I must don't speak English so good.

The vast majority of the thread is agreeing with and/or thanking you - why are you being so bloody obnoxious?

Really interesting links, I had no idea.

 

[Direwolf]

Please then good sir, tell me what this man is saying. I must don't speak English so good.

China is an authoritarian, bordering to totalitarian, dictatorship, therefore deserve the treatment it's getting. Any defence of China's policies also mean a defence of oppression, unlawful prosecusion, imprisonments, execution and torture of dissident and people opposing the Communist Party's view on political, social, economic, cultural and historical matters.

I believe he's saying that he doesn't believe that there is definite bias in the media, and that the majority criticisms against China are justified because they're valid. Which is different than saying that there exists a bias and that it's fine because China is evil.

And I'll echo the sentiment that being obnoxious about this isn't exactly swaying me to your side of the argument.

 

[The Monkey]

Please then good sir, tell me what this man is saying. I must don't speak English so good.

What I was saying was that the vast majority of "the media"'s report of China is true. Now, of course it should be frowned upon when journalists aren't telling the truth, but I have yet to see any major conspiracy against China on the scale you're painting up. The case that you're making seem to be that the west is to harsh on China, which certainly isn't the case.

I've been to China and seem the vast improvements in the quality of life that has taken place over the last decades, but on the area of political freedom and civil rights they are every bit as despicable as they're made out to be.

 

[AiM]

I believe he's saying that he doesn't believe that there is definite bias in the media, and that the majority criticisms against China are justified because they're valid. Which is different than saying that there exists a bias and that it's fine because China is evil.

And I'll echo the sentiment that being obnoxious about this isn't exactly swaying me to your side of the argument.

The bias in the news is fairly obviously, how the hell does riot images from other countries to reflect the Tibet situation? This isn't just one news source either, it comes from various new sources.

Also, if you look at the quote, he basically said China deserves the criticism regardless due to their state of government. This is flawed since what this creates is propaganda, not news. Granted, unbiased news is rare but certainly not to the extent we've seen done here. Whether criticism is warranted is another topic, but it certainly doesn't need fabrication to emphasize it.

 

[Jintor]

China is really screwy on the whole human rights and civil rights and political freedoms thing, and I am very very glad I do not live there.

 

[Iliketobenaked]

China is really screwy on the whole human rights and civil rights and political freedoms thing, and I am very very glad I do not live there.

no your just biased!

 

[15357]

China sucks.

China is a goddamn insult to the name of free democracy, world peace, and human rights. It is a threat to the continued prosperity of the human race, a giant chimney polluting the world (Just look at the sheer number of coal-using power plants), and a barbaric form of goverment.


I could go on and on, but I'm a bit late.

 

[Avoidist]

China is a goddamn insult to the name of free democracy, world peace, and human rights. It is a threat to the continued prosperity of the human race, a giant chimney polluting the world (Just look at the sheer number of coal-using power plants), and a barbaric form of goverment.

And my country's second largest economic partner (may even be first now), and one of the key reasons the western world hasn't fallen into a recession.

/'s advocate.

 

[15357]

It'd be better if it divided into 5 warring states and we took over and maintained the peace.

 

[Dan]

It'd be better if it divided into 5 warring states and we took over and maintained the peace.

That sounds kind of like Japan, your other arch nemesis.

 

[kirovman]

Korea has defied the Art of War.

 

[Gargantou]

I say we drop the bomb on all the Reds, that includes the Russians, Chinese, North and South Koreans, and finally TAIWAN!

Just kidding, I like Taiwan.

 

[[Matt]]

China is an authoritarian, bordering to totalitarian, dictatorship therefore deserve the treatment it's getting. Any defence of China's policies also mean a defence of oppression, unlawful prosecusion, imprisonments, execution and torture of dissident and people opposing the Communist Party's view on political, social, economic, cultural and historical matters.

I would fully agree with the above sentiment if the section ive emboldened and underlined was removed. As Dan has mentioned the dubious politics and dire human rights record of the chinese government does not give western media the right to slander and broadcast lies. I can understand maybe fox news having a media bias (when have they ever not been biased?) but news sources such as the BBC who normally pride themselves in bieng as ubiased as possible should be ashamed.

 

[repiV]

The BBC has been Labour's mouthpiece for many years. They're just getting less subtle about it.

It's particularly inexcusable because they're funded by taxpayer money.

 

[The Monkey]

I would fully agree with the above sentiment if the section ive emboldened and underlined was removed. As Dan has mentioned the dubious politics and dire human rights record of the chinese government does not give western media the right to slander and broadcast lies. I can understand maybe fox news having a media bias (when have they ever not been biased?) but news sources such as the BBC who normally pride themselves in bieng as ubiased as possible should be ashamed.

I have just watched the Swedish media cover of the events, which I didn't think were particularly biased, and I assumed it was the same case in the rest of the west, and that Dan's examples were exceptions. Guess I should stop assuming