Airstrike kills terror leader al-Zarqawi in Iraq

[Ome_Vince]

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most wanted terrorist in Iraq, was killed in a coalition airstrike near Baquba, jubilant U.S. and Iraqi authorities announced Thursday.

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uhm, yay Another terrorist bites the dust
Lets "hope" Iraq might be a "safer place now" (uhm-> lol), although i think there's another guy ready to take his place :S

Al-Maliki indicated that the strike on al-Zarqawi was the "result of cooperation" with the citizenry, saying that authorities many times have asked the citizenry to provide information.

"This is a message to all those who take violence as a path."

Khalilzad said the demise of al-Zarqawi won't end the violence in Iraq, but it is "an important step in the right direction." He said "there will be difficult days ahead" but said that "today is a good day."

 

[99.vikram]

I didnt knews

/sarcasm

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Already posted in General off topic

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107422

anyway. THANK GOD. FINALLY.

 

[15357]

I kinda feel bad for being joyful for someones death but, hell with it.


WOOHOO!

asd

 

[Kangy]

I would have preferred they got him alive, but I hope this knocks his movement long enough to get Iraq at least stable enough to avert civil war.

 

[VirusType2]

Terrorist leader senior aids arrested, Terror leader Dead! 7 of his aids killed in a raid as well. Two 500 lb. precision bombs. OUCH! That's sufficient. Positive identification of Zarkawi fingerprints and dental from his body parts. Grotesque, but important.

**** yeah, this is fantastic news!

UK prime minister speaking live now, US President to speak Live shortly

 

[Reaktor4]

"This is a message to all those who take violence as a path."

the irony.

 

[Element Alpha]

:stare:

"This is a message to all those who take violence as a path."

the irony.

 

[CptStern]

nothing will change ...like the mythical hydra, another head will take it's place ..not that he was behind all the troubles in iraq


makes for good headlines, wonder how much points bush will gain

 

[VictimOfScience]

nothing will change ...like the mythical hydra, another head will take it's place ..not that he was behind all the troubles in iraq

Depending on which myth you are talking about. Jason (of the Argonauts) killed a hydra to get the Golden Fleece, but Heracles killed all of the heads but one was immortal, which he buried under a rock. That one is a better anaology since this sort of fanaticism will never die, but it does go underground for periods.

It probably won't affect things too much, but any little bit of progress is a good thing. If anything, it should give our troops a little hope that their efforts aren't totally in vain, it should give our intel networks a little hope that their efforts might actually be working finally, it should give the Iraqi people a little hope that since this violent guerilla has been eliminated, perhaps there is a light at the end of the horrible tunnel they have been trapped in. The fewer jihadists blowing up coalition forces and beheading contractors and aide workers = the fewer American troops killing civilians in madness and retalitation. This is good.

 

[CptStern]

ya but herc had to burn the necks (as he cut the heads off) so they wouldnt grow back which is what the US isnt doing ..they're not making steps to ensure that the head doesnt grow back ...in fact they're adding more necks

 

[satch919]

Already posted in General off topic

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107422

anyway. THANK GOD. FINALLY.

I don't know how anyone can thank their God for killing another human being. Sure, Zarqawi was a disgusting POS but to thank God for violence just seems wrong. I say thank the Iraqis and Jordanians who gave up information, pilots for carrying out the bombing mission and the reported special ops who went in to confirm his death.

 

[VictimOfScience]

ya but herc had to burn the necks (as he cut the heads off) so they wouldnt grow back which is what the US isnt doing ..they're not making steps to ensure that the head doesnt grow back ...in fact they're adding more necks

Hahaha! Very true. We have our own necks to groom as well...:|

 

[Hapless]

nothing will change ...like the mythical hydra, another head will take it's place ..not that he was behind all the troubles in iraq


makes for good headlines, wonder how much points bush will gain

Would you say the same thing if Osama was taken out tomorrow? After all, terrorism began with him and will end with him, right?

bullshit ...where's osama bin laden? where's your mission of getting those responsible for 9/11? why this side trip into Iraq that had NOTHING to do with 9/11? ...dont you owe the families of the victems of 9/11 some justice? like sheep being led to slaughter america gives it's young for the greed of the old

yes but the war on terror shouldnt have included the war in Iraq ..I've always maintained that cia covert ops should have moved into afghanistan days after 9/11 and silently find and kill osama bin laden ..keep everyone in the dark till it was accomplished: no martyrs, no public outrage ..but no, they had to secure all of afghanistan so that Unocal could resume construction of their pipeline ..they just fumbled the ball from the very onset (purposefully I think, they had other agendas that had little to do with bringing the person responsible for 9/11 to justice)

(Oh man, the UNOCAL pipeline...remember how wrong you were about that?:cheese: )

Hello, by the way...:E :cheers:

 

[CptStern]

Would you say the same thing if Osama was taken out tomorrow? After all, terrorism began with him and will end with him, right?

yes I would say the same thing ...why? do you honestly believe that with his death terrorism the world wide will cease? If Osama is captured today will the US leave iraq/afghanistan tommorrow?

(Oh man, the UNOCAL pipeline...remember how wrong you were about that?:cheese: )

Hello, by the way...:E :cheers:

wow, you dug up old posts ...meh while I might have been wrong with that one there's almost 20,000 other examples of where I'm right :E

 

[Mechagodzilla]

That's good and all, but the onion sums up my views on the topic:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/44900

 

[Yuri]

Why can't we just be relieved that such a terrible human being is gone?

Just because his death won't bring rainbows and happiness immediately upon all peoples in the world does not mean that it was not justified. I dunno what you want to do there, Stern, you're only happy when conservatives die and not evil barbaric terrorists...

That's good and all, but the onion sums up my views on the topic:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/44900

Haha woo.

 

[Kangy]

Would you say the same thing if Osama was taken out tomorrow? After all, terrorism began with him and will end with him, right?

You're joking, right?

 

[CptStern]

Why can't we just be relieved that such a terrible human being is gone?

Just because his death won't bring rainbows and happiness immediately upon all peoples in the world does not mean that it was not justified. I dunno what you want to do there, Stern, you're only happy when conservatives die and not evil barbaric terrorists...Haha woo.

oh come on erestheux, I expected better from you ..you sound like all of those rabid rightwingers who attribute being anti-war with being pro-terrorist

 

[The Monkey]

You're joking, right?

I think (read: hope) so.

 

[kirovman]

Yes, it is a good thing that he is removed, but will it make a difference?

Probably not. Remember that they removed Saddam, but that made the social situation worse.

 

[Yuri]

oh come on erestheux, I expected better from you ..you sound like all of those rabid rightwingers who attribute being anti-war with being pro-terrorist

I expect better from you. You sound like one of those rabit leftwingers who adds only discontent and annoyance to every thread concerning the war in Iraq.

Seriously, it doesn't matter what happens, it is somehow not okay with you. Canada thwarts a terrorist attack on civilians, a known evil terrorist who was present for the beheadings of several innocent people is killed, it doesn't matter. Somehow it is all irrelevant, and conservatives are to blame.

You could have just said something to the effect of

Yes, it is a good thing that he is removed, but will it make a difference?

Probably not. Remember that they removed Saddam, but that made the social situation worse.

but, you simply cannot admit that it is good. Instead all you do is act cynical and ignore the fact that a piece of human scum is removed from this world.

I never said I disagreed, I just said that you are absolutely annoying with your insane blind defense of anything extremist liberal in every thread ever made.

 

[CptStern]

I expect better from you. You sound like one of those rabit leftwingers who adds only discontent and annoyance to every thread concerning the war in Iraq.

yes because there's a silver lining to iraq that I'm just not seeing ..10's of thousands killed on an immoral/unjust/unneccesary war and all you can do is complain about people complaining? should I just outright lie? at kleast half a dozen said pretty much what I said in this one thread alone ..yet you single me out

Seriously, it doesn't matter what happens, it is somehow not okay with you. Canada thwarts a terrorist attack on civilians, a known evil terrorist who was present for the beheadings of several innocent people is killed, it doesn't matter. Somehow it is all irrelevant, and conservatives are to blame.

please, spare me your false indignation ..you have no clue as to what motivates me, stop using the same tired liberals vs conservatives bullshit that is only valid in the US

You could have just said something to the effect ofbut, you simply cannot admit that it is good. Instead all you do is act cynical and ignore the fact that a piece of human scum is removed from this world.

seriously what is good about it? do you honestly think it will change anything ..or do you subscribe to that archaic notion that an eye for an eye is justified? because if that were true there'd be entire generations of iraqis. Hondurans, Congolese, Salvadorians, Panamians etc gunning for the US right now

I never said I disagreed, I just said that you are absolutely annoying with your insane blind defense of anything extremist liberal in every thread ever made.

well here's a solution ..dont ****ing read it, simple as that


no offense but it is people like you that irritate me ..you have absolutely NOTHING to say when your country commits atrocites yet are quick to put your 2 cents in when the other side does the same ..it is completely hypocritical to ignore what happens in your own backyard

 

[Mr-Fusion]

I hate enemies that don't die. No matter how many times you kill them, they resurrect to continue to the fight. The borg, the bugs in starship trooper, that species from star trek voyager that when shot with phase pistols would simply be transported back to their dimension, the cylons! You destroy wave after wave and it has no impact on their resolve to destroy you.

I prefer mirror image enemies. Nazis, the kilrathi, klingons. Fighting them made sense and defeating them was defeat in the truest sense of the word. When i let that temblor bomb fly into the tectonic plates of the kilrathi homeworld it spelt the end of their fight.

 

[Yuri]

Jesus christ I didn't want a f*cking quote war.

yes because there's a silver lining to iraq that I'm just not seeing ..10's of thousands killed on an immoral/unjust/unneccesary war and all you can do is complain about people complaining? should I just outright lie?

When did I say that they should be f*cking ignored, when did I say that the war itself is justified? WHEN STERN WHEN?
Hint: I DIDN'T! STOP PUTTING ****ING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!

please, spare me your false indignation ..you have no clue as to what motivates me, stop using the same tired liberals vs conservatives bullshit that is only valid in the US

Lol, irony because that is exactly what I am commenting on about you. How many propagandous anti-conservative anti-christian threads to you create per week? All I'm saying is, shut up about it where it doesn't need to be mentioned. Here, and especially the Canadian Terrorist Capture thread, it does not need to be mentioned.

seriously what is good about it? do you honestly think it will change anything ..or do you subscribe to that archaic notion that an eye for an eye is justified? because if that were true there'd be entire generations of iraqis. Hondurans, Congolese, Salvadorians, Panamians etc gunning for the US right now

What is good about the death or a tyrant motherf*cking murderer? If you read my post (which seems unlikely), I said it will likely not change anything.

So since an "eye for an eye" is archaic, it is unjustified to punish those who commit atrocities? And if we do so, since the US government has oppressed certain people, they have the right to attack civilians of the US government?

well here's a solution ..dont ****ing read it, simple as that

It is hard to ignore when you litter it in every single one of your 20,000 posts.

no offense but it is people like you that irritate me ..you have absolutely NOTHING to say when your country commits atrocites yet are quick to put your 2 cents in when the other side does the same ..it is completely hypocritical to ignore what happens in your own backyard

"People like me?"

**** you stern. I have nothing to say when my "country" commits atrocities? **** you for putting words in my mouth, and associating me with people that have nothing to do with me, and classifying me in your arbitrary catagory of "people who disagree with stern must justify the war and want to slaughter children!"

I am not hyprocritical becuase you pretend I'm on the other side of the spectrum that you just created.

The hell are you talking about when you accuse me of ignoring atrocities commited by a country I live in. You are an insulting condencending bastard whenever anyone disagrees with you. Seriously, **** off stern.



Are you saying that it does not matter that this man is dead? Are you saying that he shouldn't have been killed? If so, should he have not been killed even if we are already there and we aren't going to stop being there?

I have no f*cking idea what you are saying, other than "Who gives a shit, let's just hate America."


Here is my opinion:
War in Iraq is VERY UNJUSTIFIED
It will hardly effect the anti-American sentiment now that this man has died
This man unquestionably deserved death


Don't ever, ever put words into my mouth again, Stern. Don't ever associate me with people that you hate just because I disagree with how you post. :|

 

[CptStern]

Jesus christ I didn't want a f*cking quote war.

When did I say that they should be f*cking ignored, when did I say that the war itself is justified? WHEN STERN WHEN?
Hint: I DIDN'T! STOP PUTTING ****ING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!Lol, irony because that is exactly what I am commenting on about you. How many propagandous anti-conservative anti-christian threads to you create per week? All I'm saying is, shut up about it where it doesn't need to be mentioned. Here, and especially the Canadian Terrorist Capture thread, it does not need to be mentioned.What is good about the death or a tyrant motherf*cking murderer? If you read my post (which seems unlikely), I said it will likely not change anything.

So since an "eye for an eye" is archaic, it is unjustified to punish those who commit atrocities? And if we do so, since the US government has oppressed certain people, they have the right to attack civilians of the US government?It is hard to ignore when you litter it in every single one of your 20,000 posts."People like me?"

**** you stern. I have nothing to say when my "country" commits atrocities? **** you for putting words in my mouth, and associating me with people that have nothing to do with me, and classifying me in your arbitrary catagory of "people who disagree with stern must justify the war and want to slaughter children!"

I am not hyprocritical becuase you pretend I'm on the other side of the spectrum that you just created.

The hell are you talking about when you accuse me of ignoring atrocities commited by a country I live in. You are an insulting condencending bastard whenever anyone disagrees with you. Seriously, **** off stern.



Are you saying that it does not matter that this man is dead? Are you saying that he shouldn't have been killed? If so, should he have not been killed even if we are already there and we aren't going to stop being there?

I have no f*cking idea what you are saying, other than "Who gives a shit, let's just hate America."


Here is my opinion:
War in Iraq is VERY UNJUSTIFIED
It will hardly effect the anti-American sentiment now that this man has died
This man unquestionably deserved death


Don't ever, ever put words into my mouth again, Stern. Don't ever associate me with people that you hate just because I disagree with how you post. :|

you know erestheux I'm not usually one to say this but go **** yourself ..your post doesnt dignify a response so I'm not going to even bother

 

[Hapless]

yes I would say the same thing ...why? do you honestly believe that with his death terrorism the world wide will cease? If Osama is captured today will the US leave iraq/afghanistan tommorrow?





wow, you dug up old posts ...meh while I might have been wrong with that one there's almost 20,000 other examples of where I'm right :E

Of course terrorism would not cease tomorrow if bin Laden was killed or captured. I was being facetious. "What about bin Laden? What about 9/11?" was the battle cry from several people on this forum when we invaded Iraq, yourself included. I've read numerous posts on here which seemed to suggest that terrorism began with bin Laden and 9/11, and will end when he is captured. Most of those posts are connected with the numerous, "OMFG Iraq war is illegal!!!!111oneoneone" threads.

 

[CptStern]

excuse me? ..have we been reading the same posts/threads? if anything it's people who support the ar that believe it will end when he is captured/killed

 

[Hapless]

Care to provide some examples?

 

[CptStern]

why? it's not like you provided any

 

[Hapless]

Oh, so those two quotes of yours I posted didn't say what they said? C'mon, Stern.


(Thus begins the devolution of this thread into an argument over semantics. YOu can actually see it in action, kids, right here!)

 

[Yuri]

you know erestheux I'm not usually one to say this but go **** yourself ..your post doesnt dignify a response so I'm not going to even bother

I didn't put any ****ing words into your mouth, Stern. Your condenscending post hardly had the decency for a responce, but I tend to want to defend myself when insulted.

 

[CptStern]

Oh, so those two quotes of yours I posted didn't say what they said? C'mon, Stern.


(Thus begins the devolution of this thread into an argument over semantics. YOu can actually see it in action, kids, right here!)

and you're not part and parcel to it ....nooooo that would be too much to admit


please point out where I say that the war will end with the death of osama:

yes but the war on terror shouldnt have included the war in Iraq ..I've always maintained that cia covert ops should have moved into afghanistan days after 9/11 and silently find and kill osama bin laden ..keep everyone in the dark till it was accomplished: no martyrs, no public outrage ..but no, they had to secure all of afghanistan so that Unocal could resume construction of their pipeline ..they just fumbled the ball from the very onset (purposefully I think, they had other agendas that had little to do with bringing the person responsible for 9/11 to justice)

bullshit ...where's osama bin laden? where's your mission of getting those responsible for 9/11? why this side trip into Iraq that had NOTHING to do with 9/11? ...dont you owe the families of the victems of 9/11 some justice? like sheep being led to slaughter america gives it's young for the greed of the old

I didn't put any ****ing words into your mouth, Stern. Your condenscending post hardly had the decency for a responce, but I tend to want to defend myself when insulted.

you have a lot of nerve even saying that ..I said "iritated" ..you insulted me at least a half dozen times in a single post ..but I'm the one being condescending? just ****ing drop it already

 

[Hapless]

yes but the war on terror shouldnt have included the war in Iraq ..I've always maintained that cia covert ops should have moved into afghanistan days after 9/11 and silently find and kill osama bin laden ..keep everyone in the dark till it was accomplished: no martyrs, no public outrage ..but no, they had to secure all of afghanistan so that Unocal could resume construction of their pipeline ..they just fumbled the ball from the very onset (purposefully I think, they had other agendas that had little to do with bringing the person responsible for 9/11 to justice)

bullshit ...where's osama bin laden? where's your mission of getting those responsible for 9/11? why this side trip into Iraq that had NOTHING to do with 9/11? ...dont you owe the families of the victems of 9/11 some justice? like sheep being led to slaughter america gives it's young for the greed of the old

You don't come right out and say it, but you certainly imply it. Pretty strongly, I might add.

(This is where you say, "Nuh unh," and I say, "Uh huh," and you say, "Did not," and I say, "Did too," ad nauseum.)

 

[Yuri]

What post are you even talking about?

You compared me to extremist rightwing nutjobs and you said that I have "nothing to say when my country commits atrocities." It pissed me off, and we both know that none of that is true in the slightest bit of at all.

 

[CptStern]

You don't come right out and say it, but you certainly imply it. Pretty strongly, I might add.

(This is where you say, "Nuh unh," and I say, "Uh huh," and you say, "Did not," and I say, "Did too," ad nauseum.)

so you can read my mind now? you know that was my intent without a shadow of doubt ..perhaps you'd like to fill me in because I have never said/implied that ...ever

see the problem here is that your own bias towards anyone who disagrees with the war coupled with the fact that you took my posts out of context leads you to the wrong conclusion. All I'm saying is that you should have gone after osama instead of focusing on iraq

This is where you say, "Nuh unh," and I say, "Uh huh," and you say, "Did not," and I say, "Did too," ad nauseum.)

must everyone be a condescending jackass? is this the new norm? is this what passes as debate these days?

 

[Hapless]

so you can read my mind now? you know that was my intent without a shadow of doubt ..perhaps you'd like to fill me in because I have never said/implied that ...ever

see the problem here is that your own bias towards anyone who disagrees with the war coupled with the fact that you took my posts out of context leads you to the wrong conclusion. All I'm saying is that you should have gone after osama instead of focusing on iraq

WHy exactly should we have focused solely on Osama? That is my point.

must everyone be a condescending jackass? is this the new norm?

Am not. :cheese:

 

[CptStern]

WHy exactly should we have focused solely on Osama? That is my point.

umm because he killed 3000 + people? I thought that was obvious ..how does invading iraq bring those that caused 9/11 to justice? ..I'm hoping you dont use this kind of reasoning in your day job

Am not. :cheese:

I'm not laughing hapless, maybe you dont give a shit but I happen to visit on a daily basis and it's really getting annoying

 

[Yuri]

I don't see where stern ever implied that finding Osama would end all terrorism.

However, I do see where stern implied that Osama should be found and punished for the murder of ~3,000 civilians.

What gets me is that the death of this terrorist is overlooked when he is responsible for the death and torture of many civilians, it just does not reach the 1,000s.

 

[Hapless]

umm because he killed 3000 + people? I thought that was obvious ..how does invading iraq bring those that caused 9/11 to justice?

When did anyone ever call it, "The War on Osama bin Laden and Those Responsible For 9/11?" I believe it's called, "The War on Terror." Terrorism did not begin with 9/11. Afghanistan under the Taliban supported and trained terrorists. Iraq under Saddam supported terrorism. That is my point.

..I'm hoping you dont use this kind of reasoning in your day job

What was that about condescending jackasses?

I'm not laughing hapless, maybe you dont give a shit but I happen to visit on a daily basis and it's really getting annoying

Lighten up. It's a damn internet forum.