Alyx Survived? Ummm.....

[Titar]

I guess since it is a Sci Fi game, Valve can pull out any explaination they like (for example the G-man saves her also, even though it looks like he wouldn't) but at this point any explaination they give is going to feel a little hokey (as a result, perhaps no explaination at all?). I, like most people, really liked Alyx BUT that is why the end of HL2 was so powerful and sinister.


Then again, I guess Shakespear could have written a sequel to Romeo and Juliette where it turns out they faked their deaths to free themselves of their families once and for all...

 

[Sulkdodds]

It would be particularly amusing if it turned out that the big explosion was just a cool explosion that didn't actually reach out to destroy the citadel, and that both of you would have survived just by standing there.

 

[bliink]

It would be particularly amusing if it turned out that the big explosion was just a cool explosion that didn't actually reach out to destroy the citadel, and that both of you would have survived just by standing there.

lol... thats what I'm expecting!

It would be more amusing if the gman started tap dancing, but that aint gonna happen.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Me three on the explosion being too small to do too much damage, let alone deadly damage!

If that really were the entire nuke going off or whatever, there's be no city left for the game to happen in.

 

[Kouler]

Or maybe the force of the exlosion pushed Alyx down and she was falling and landed in an anti-gravity room thing or something, like when you first get into the Citadel and it drops you from the pod into an anti-gravity room.

 

[sinkoman]

Me three on the explosion being too small to do too much damage, let alone deadly damage!

If that really were the entire nuke going off or whatever, there's be no city left for the game to happen in.

Yeah, if you look at the screenies from AM, it looks allot like nothing ever happened.

Besides the zombie and antlion invasion of course.

Oh and I think it wouldn't be too far fetched to say Gman saved her. He could have also taken her into STW with Gordon, thus effectively saving them both.

 

[DevgruSeal]

I just want to see how you'll enter into the video game...Will you be standing in the same spot, and have to crawl down that whole long thing with Alyx? Jump over top of the citadel and fly around with the grav gun?

 

[j4s[p]]

Perhaps the explosion only sent the core in a critical state? The explosion wasn't that big. Someone could of survived a blast like that.

Plus, the core being in such a critical state and unrepairable, would probably really explode in a matter of time.


Just my 2 cents.

 

[Asknoone]

I simply imagine her being blown backward down the corridor then the explosion sucking back into the reactor.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

But what about the big tower coming down on top of them?

 

[Skaadi]

Sorry about this, it's really off topic. But I must congratulate AJ Rimmer about his username. Red Dwarf is a kick ass show. Sorry.....

 

[DevgruSeal]

And now, introducing the HL2.net member awards ceremony!!!!


Back on subject, its very possible the tower would come down on them..Then again VALVe might completely put us in some weird new environment in the Citadel, far away from the explosion...Yeah..that'd be retarded

 

[Sulkdodds]

I was under the impression the citadel would go thermonuclear at some point and that you'd be trying to escape it. So it probably wouldn't fall down before exploding...

 

[Laivasse]

I guess since it is a Sci Fi game, Valve can pull out any explaination they like (for example the G-man saves her also, even though it looks like he wouldn't) but at this point any explaination they give is going to feel a little hokey (as a result, perhaps no explaination at all?). I, like most people, really liked Alyx BUT that is why the end of HL2 was so powerful and sinister.


Then again, I guess Shakespear could have written a sequel to Romeo and Juliette where it turns out they faked their deaths to free themselves of their families once and for all...

I agree it does seem hokey. The setting for Aftermath seems to me like a "patch" for the ending. I felt the only way they could build on HL2's finale was to have a setting from the point of view of another character, away from the citadel (maybe even in a different period), or just to plough straight on through to HL3 and a different setting altogether.

Maybe all the NPCs in Aftermath are going to have dollar signs in their eyes as an ironic joke. Let's face it guys, the plot has become secondary now, discussion is kind of irrelevant...

 

[Sulkdodds]

Somehow I doubt it. I have no idea how the hell they're going to explain the fact that you were whisked away by the G-Man...and then you're back again. But I for one am confident there will be a proper explanation for it.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Somehow I doubt it. I have no idea how the hell they're going to explain the fact that you were whisked away by the G-Man...and then you're back again. But I for one am confident there will be a proper explanation for it.

so ur not really buying the theory that has been floating around here for a while...that the Gman is not human and that he has some sort of super powers?

really i don't know what to think of it...so many people believe that the Gman is an alien or just a higher being with special powers or some such...its scary to think that could be the explanation :|

 

[gabriel]

i think that it will begin the same way it ended. gman will give all or part of his little ending speech, then gordon and alyx get knocked down by the blast and then have to escape.

 

[PickledGecko]

Someone in the resistance paid for Gordon's services, why wouldn't they pay the G-Man to look after Alyx? She does, after all, seem to be the best soldier they have.

 

[Laivasse]

Someone in the resistance paid for Gordon's services, why wouldn't they pay the G-Man to look after Alyx? She does, after all, seem to be the best soldier they have.

It doesn't seem very likely to me that the resistance are the ones who hired Gordon.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

It doesn't seem very likely to me that the resistance are the ones who hired Gordon.

not only that, where the heck in hard times like these do the resistence fighters have the money or whatever the employer wants to obtain Gordon's services?
it just doesn't make any sense.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

I was under the impression the citadel would go thermonuclear at some point and that you'd be trying to escape it. So it probably wouldn't fall down before exploding...

I meant the big tower right above the reactor which is coming down right at the end. I don't care if the explosion hurt them or not, they have got to get out of that area damn well quickly. Which is why I suspect G-man involvement.
And yes, Red Dwarf kicks ass.

 

[gabriel]

whats all this about the resistance employing gordon? that's just bizarre. i don't even have the words to describe how messed up that is.

 

[Asknoone]

whats all this about the resistance employing gordon? that's just bizarre. i don't even have the words to describe how messed up that is.

Its perfectly plausible to me.

 

[PickledGecko]

Yeah sorry, I don't believe they could hire him directly either. But my point was that Gordon was working with the resistance and, whatever the ultimate goal, his fighting was helping the Resistance’s cause. So, if Gordon’s “employers” were benefiting from helping the resistance it could also be conceivable that they would benefit from the Resistance’s second best soldier. (i.e. Alyx, Gordon being the first.)

 

[boystupid]

I agree that the resistance would not be able to hire gordon from the gman. I think the gman intervened for a reason (possibly to save them from the falling tower) and that he will return them back into the same location but after the tower has fallen and the explosion has happened (like in hl1 where you are in the test chamber and you wakeup to see the "aftermath" of what has happened.

And your right Red Dwarf kicks ass "Boyz from the Dwarf *Hand Movement*"

 

[Asknoone]

Of course the resistance hired him. Knowing that he would arrive via the tracks? The HEV suit? Alyx and Eli shouting "NO!" "Don't listen to him Gordon." When Breen was about to tell you the truth about who hired you?

Its perfectly clear they didn't want you to know the truth.

 

[Laivasse]

Of course the resistance hired him. Knowing that he would arrive via the tracks? The HEV suit? Alyx and Eli shouting "NO!" "Don't listen to him Gordon." When Breen was about to tell you the truth about who hired you?

Its perfectly clear they didn't want you to know the truth.

Barney's picking up Gordon at the beginning seemed to me to be as much of a lucky accident as anything else. You could have been hired by anyone and G-man would still have orchestrated it so that you ran into the resistance and had some back-up.

The HEV suit doesn't exclusively belong to Gordon. It makes sense for them to have one around since it's a useful thing for anyone to have.

That bit at the end indicated to me more that Eli and Alyx *knew* about G-Man and your contract, but didn't want you being hired out/treated like/behaving like a mercenary - just didn't want you being treated like GMan's dog any more, it felt. There's also the end sequence...loads of people go on about how GMan would have wanted to save Alyx because she is "strong" or whatever, but I agree with others who say the whole picking-a-speck-of dust-off-her-and-inspecting-it-casually shows his disinterest in her (regardless of what happens in Aftermath). To me it's like he's just inspecting the dust on someone's mantlepiece, or brushing a bit of grit off a crappy ornament, without even referring to it directly. I think he'd have a bit more respect for his 'employer''s side than that.

There is absolutely nothing the Resistance have that the GMan could want - no money, no power, nothing. It seems silly to me that a mysterious and powerful planewalker type figure like GMan could be contacted and negotiated with by a bunch of rag-wearing cannon fodder. GMan's manipulation of Gordon seems to be more along the lines of having Gordon *thinking* he's fighting for himself or for his friends, while he's actually fulfilling some secret + unfathomable aim for the GMan (which I reckon we wont see until HL3).

edit - remember also how massively surprised everyone was to see you.

 

[Jandor]

EDIT: Changed my mind. Might insert post later.

 

[Asknoone]

edit - remember also how massively surprised everyone was to see you.

That could mean anything, but other than that - they were expecting you.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Or perhaps they hired you after you arrived in City-17.

The resistance do have something to bargain with: Earth (which the G-Man obviously wants clear of Combine) and the Xen teleportation tech.

 

[Asknoone]

Or perhaps they hired you after you arrived in City-17.

The resistance do have something to bargain with: Earth (which the G-Man obviously wants clear of Combine) and the Xen teleportation tech.

Exactly.

 

[Laivasse]

Or perhaps they hired you after you arrived in City-17.

The resistance do have something to bargain with: Earth (which the G-Man obviously wants clear of Combine) and the Xen teleportation tech.

Exactly.

Hmm, the resistance don't have Earth to offer. If anyone could use Earth as a bargaining chip it's the Combine.

I doubt G-Man would be interested in the Xen teleportation tech. He seems capable of going anywhere without it, and anyway he probably got his fill of the xen teleport tech from hanging around in Black Mesa. His side might even be in control of Xen now anyway.

It has been speculated upon before about what exactly the GMan might be interested in. It wouldn't be anything as mundane as cash, and I doubt it would even be anything within the capability of humanity to give. It would more likely be stuff like territory (on a big, interplanetary scale), concessions, powerful alliances, and stuff like that...none of which humanity can really give, even when at the top of our game. Let alone when being stomped flat by some brutal empire.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Hmm, the resistance don't have Earth to offer.

They will if they defeat the Combine, which, if Gordon fights for them, will happen.

 

[Dougy]

There is absolutely nothing the Resistance have that the GMan could want - no money, no power, nothing.

The end of the combine and breen on earth.....

 

[Laivasse]

None of that makes any sense. You guys are saying they're bargaining with GMan using something they could only achieve with GMan's help.

If you believe that GMan wanted the Earth free of Combine for his own interests, then he had no reason to be bargaining with the resistance anyway. He just had to set Gordon loose and the resistance would inevitably back him up.

 

[Andy018]

lol... thats what I'm expecting!

It would be more amusing if the gman started tap dancing, but that aint gonna happen.

Hey if someone gets modelposer running and has a little bash with 3dmax and stuff im sure we could get GMan tap dancing

 

[Firkat54]

lol... thats what I'm expecting!

It would be more amusing if the gman started tap dancing, but that aint gonna happen.

theres actually a video of him tap dancing...my friend sent me the link a long time ago...google it if you want to find it

 

[Dr. Freeman]

They will if they defeat the Combine, which, if Gordon fights for them, will happen.

but the point is, Gman could just simply have Gordon defeat the combine anyway without the resistence and gain whatever it is he wants.

to me anyway, it makes the Gman and Gordon look weak if the Gman needs the resistence to gain control over Earth... and we all know that the Gman looks anything _but_ weak.

 

[raakkel]

the alien seen on two screenshots here on halflife2.net saves both alyx and gordon (after gordon wakes up from Gman's cradle.

 

[Asknoone]

the alien seen on two screenshots here on halflife2.net saves both alyx and gordon (after gordon wakes up from Gman's cradle.

You mean the Vortigaunt?