Amazon date assure conflict with Doom III

[GhostValkyrie]

Originally posted by Spiffae
I disagree. It'll be close to Doom III's release date and that's not good for Doom III.

I disagree even more. It'll be close to DoomIII's, and that's not good for your mother.

Pitbul: While I am highly anticipating STALKER, I don't understand where you got the idea it's physics beat DoomIII's. Only models are affected by physics. If you watch the vids; A man throws a grenade, the two people standing on these line-winders are thrown, but the line-winders remain stationary. Not trying to be ruse, just telling you what I've seen.

 

[koopa]

Stalker's physics don't look all that hot so far - the ragdolling looked a bit off on the demos I saw. I heard (might be wrong) that they were writing their own physics system, which is always a bit worrying - they're notoriously hard to do properly (precision/speed issues).

Then again, D3 is the same. But I think that iD have already said that the physics engine isn't going to be used as much as in something like HL2.

 

[Pseudonym_]

Having played the D3 and HL2 leaks, I can tell you that D3 is by far the more immersive game. Seriously, it scares the absolute shit out of you!!

I agree. The Doom3 leak, even though it was just 3 small maps thrown together for e3, was still by far the most immersive game I've ever played. The atmosphere is very immersive, and the lighting adds to it, but I think the biggest reason it's so immersive is the fact that the game induces fear.

Everything about it, from sound to the lighting and the overall design, is meant to induce fear, and fear is a very immersive thing. I think when you are afraid, even if it's fear induced by a game, the natural self-preservation mechanism ingrained in our brain kicks in, and we lock everything else out and focus on staying out of harms way, even if the supposed danger is coming from a pixel-zombie. This happens on a sub-conscious level, but I think it's on of the things that makes Doom3 so immersive.


hl2 doesn't feel immersive to me at all. There really isn't any point where I get so caught up that I cease to realise it's just a game.

 

[poseyjmac]

you've played hl2 final? oh wait no you've played an incomplete beta. comparing betas is a waste of time, you draw conclusions that mean nothing.

 

[Mad Dog]

Trust me, HL2 will be plenty immersive and atmospheric. Comparaing the 2 leaked "alphas" is way beyond illogical; one was meant to be playable for E3 and another was such a hatchet job of a hack that it's amazing it's even as playable as it is.

I'm confident that the final product will put you in the game world in such a way as to never break your connection from it. Doom 3 certainly is steller in terms of atmosphere, but I am concerned about the "out of body" cinematics. If everything else is working the game won't need them.

 

[SilentKilla]

Originally posted by poseyjmac
you've played hl2 final? oh wait no you've played an incomplete beta. comparing betas is a waste of time, you draw conclusions that mean nothing.

ya thats like comparing two 4 yr olds weiners. its just not right.

 

[Styloid]

It's all about mindset. I started playing the Doom3 alpha not thinking too much of it (it was only an alpha) and I ended up joking about the AI and physics with my brother. This was obviously a mindset because the alpha is enjoyed by others who have equally strong mindsets. I hope people will see through this fact whenever they say that This will be more immersive than That as if it were fact.

 

[iamaelephant]

Sure, we cant gain any solid conclusion from playing both the leaked versions, but it gives us a hell of alot more of an idea about the game than just speculation alone.

 

[The Mullinator]

I think its a good thing that they could both be comming out on the same date. When I go to my local EB I won't be getting 1 amazing game, but 2!!

It will be sweet if it happens.

 

[mrchimp]

Here we go again another Doom 3 Vs HL2 thread, the most annoying thing about these threads now is that most of the people in them seem to want Doom 3 more than HL2 which doesn't make any sense as this is a website dedicated to HL2.

I can still remember the good ol days when the mere mention of Doom 3 brought about a whole 3 pages worth of disgust.

I havn't looked at any real HL2 media for so long now that I have almost forgotten what it was really like. I'v practically lost interest and it's ****ing me off, I don't really care too much about Doom 3 or any other game for that matter. I want to start anticipateing HL2 again as much as i did before, but it's not going to happen untill valve give me a reason too. If they did there would be one hell of a lot of people who will all of sudden think "WTF am i doing saying Doom 3 is better".

I'm sorry but i have to say this; **** Doom 3 and it's silly monsters, **** it's hard edged shitty shadows, **** it's oh so scary atmosphere, **** it's over clutter ed enviroments, **** trying to act maturely about it. Doom 3 is just another game whith slightly flashier graphics , I want to drive about in a fully physically simulated buggy while running over combine and shooting at a stryder. There is no way in hell that I'd rather be running down a corridor thinking "oooo I'm so scared ... ****ing hell does that wall have a low res texture or what"(sarcasm).

Sure I'll buy Doom 3, but mainly just so i can marvel at the graphics, I mean people are just jokeing when they say this game is scary right? HA!

 

[Ownzed]

I bet Half-Life 2 will be just like Half-life 1, Valve will delay it for 1 whole year.

 

[CheapAssStrat]

Originally posted by mrchimp
Here we go again another Doom 3 Vs HL2 thread, the most annoying thing about these threads now is that most of the people in them seem to want Doom 3 more than HL2 which doesn't make any sense as this is a website dedicated to HL2.

I can still remember the good ol days when the mere mention of Doom 3 brought about a whole 3 pages worth of disgust.

I havn't looked at any real HL2 media for so long now that I have almost forgotten what it was really like. I'v practically lost interest and it's ****ing me off, I don't really care too much about Doom 3 or any other game for that matter. I want to start anticipateing HL2 again as much as i did before, but it's not going to happen untill valve give me a reason too. If they did there would be one hell of a lot of people who will all of sudden think "WTF am i doing saying Doom 3 is better".

I'm sorry but i have to say this; **** Doom 3 and it's silly monsters, **** it's hard edged shitty shadows, **** it's oh so scary atmosphere, **** it's over clutter ed enviroments, **** trying to act maturely about it. Doom 3 is just another game whith slightly flashier graphics , I want to drive about in a fully physically simulated buggy while running over combine and shooting at a stryder. There is no way in hell that I'd rather be running down a corridor thinking "oooo I'm so scared ... ****ing hell does that wall have a low res texture or what"(sarcasm).

Sure I'll buy Doom 3, but mainly just so i can marvel at the graphics, I mean people are just jokeing when they say this game is scary right? HA!

...Fishing.

 

[The Dark Elf]

*locked*

This is on its way into a nasty flame