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The link doesn't work. Any link to newegg that is a search function, and not a direct link, never works.

An AMD 64? 3000+ for under 200$ or 3200+ would be a great buy for just over 200$. The 1MB L2 cache will help a little bit.
They have the memory controller on the chip rather than off-site in the northbridge chip. Much quicker.
It's a very good chip.

Nvidia and VIA will make PCI Express boards by the end of this year but they are not out yet. Who needs PCI Express if you get awesome game performance with AGP on an AMD right now.
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alternatively you could go straight for the 2500+ or 2600+ barton cores as they overclock to 3200+ speeds with ease.
 
What should I buy? an AMD athlon 64 3000+ or an Intel P4 3.0Ghz Prescott 800HT?? help plz :S
 
AMD Athlon 64 3000+. They are an excellent deal right now, don't cost too much and they perform awesome, they're only beaten by the FX series and P4 EE series. And they're 64-bit, and that means you'll be ready when the next windows and 64-bit games come out.
 
Something I forogt to ask, does the AMD Athlon 64 3000+ have 1MB cache??
 
Gajdycz said:
y do u always hijck my threads...
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lol I dont hijack ur threads! I just dont want to open another thread only for asking a little question!! :\
 
I just built my new machine, and alothough the motherboard was a b*tch to get going with a XP Pro install, this is one KICK ASS machine, it is so f*cking fast! ! !
The 64 3000+ is a great price also! ! ! Just get a Asus board, or if you do go MSI, go with the Via KT800 chipset.
 
thats really strange cause new egg says no 1mb cache...the 3200+ is the same speed as the 3000+ it just has the 1mb cache, thats the difference between the 3000+ and 3200+

but really, you wont notice the difference most likely
 
VeZ said:
thats really strange cause new egg says no 1mb cache...the 3200+ is the same speed as the 3000+ it just has the 1mb cache, thats the difference between the 3000+ and 3200+

but really, you wont notice the difference most likely
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crap and i am stuck w/ my puny athlon 64 3000+ w/ 512 cache :(
 
It is a miss label, happens quite often. The model numbers match the 512KB L2 cache on newegg.

If the 3000+ had 1MB L2 cache and was rated properly it would have to have a 1.8GHz speed.
Personally I would much rather have the 2GHz, just like the 3200+.
 
if you're looking for a socket 754, go with a amd athlon 3200+ it has the 1mb cache and a decent core clock speed

for socket 939, you probably don't have the money (or the need) to go with anything higher than the 3500+ they only have 512 kb, but the dual channel memory controller and the hypertransport make up for the loss easily

for performance, socket 939 3500+
for value, socket 754 3200+ w/ 1mb cache
 
Synthos said:
if you're looking for a socket 754, go with a amd athlon 3200+ it has the 1mb cache and a decent core clock speed

for socket 939, you probably don't have the money (or the need) to go with anything higher than the 3500+ they only have 512 kb, but the dual channel memory controller and the hypertransport make up for the loss easily

for performance, socket 939 3500+
for value, socket 754 3200+ w/ 1mb cache
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since when is beating every p4 in gaming considered value? :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
 
the socket 754 is cheaper than the top p4s actually. I'd buy one in a second, but i've got my eye on the 939
 
Before AMD"s price cuts the 3000+ was the best buy because it was 100$ less than the 3200+ and the same clock speed. Cache didn't matter much.
Now they are pretty close in price so grabing the 1MB L2 Cache would be a good idea.
 
Wow someone should be shot, im planning to buy an AMD 64 3000+ for my birthday though :)
 
Sooo what would be better to go with, the Newcastle or Clawhammer chips? I was thinking of getting a 64 3200 or 3400, and they have both cores for each of the chips. I'm not sure wether the extra 200mhz clock speed or the 1mb cach is better
 
odds are you cna squeeze 200mhz out easily in ocing...but you can't increase your cache size later...
 
Ah that's true, never really looked at it that way. Thx man I'll prolly get the 3200 clawhammer and OC it to 3400 speeds (or as far as I can get it stable)
 
Generally the 3000+ rides right behind the 3200+ with the 1MB L2 cache.
200MHz > 1MB L2 cache generally speaking.

IMO 512KB L2 cache only takes off 100+ rating, so a 3000+ performs more like a 3100+.
Before when the 3200+ was up near 300$, it was a lot smarter to go for the 3000+ but now that they are both just below and above 200$ the 3200+ is a great buy.
 
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