America will be destroyed...

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Thank god I live in the center, and if anything faks up, I'll just move to Canada
 
"is not a world-renowned scholar"

Well I think this kind of thing makes it obvious. Hehe.
 
You guy's better brush up on your swimming technique.
 
You hear a new armageddon theory every day....reminds me of 1999

Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231 years.

How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

yep, definitly the craziest one I've heard so far
 
Yeah well he's right about the sin part. US has become one nasty cesspool. But I don't think it'll cease to exist, not in that year anyway. But there's been quite a number of major earthquakes occuring this year alone.
 
Can't wait!

Seriously, morons like this don't deserve attention.
 
God's gonna get almighty on our asses.

I'm gonna go get my life jacket....
 
Heh, there's another cospiracy theory flying about that the catholic church being destroyed after the death of the pope.

Well it's gratifying to know that these predictions arn't purely a christian thing :p
 
My University text book on coding can predict the future as well. If I look through it and pick letters at random it spells "The Earth Will Be Destroyed In 2005", see, I must be a prophet.
 
Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks.

wtf, it was the british who did that, as well as some other european contries, if anything the tsunami should destroy the UK
 
well it was the british and europeans who then proceeded to settle in america and declare independence. (With the Native Americans at least)
 
doubt anything like that would happen so early, but there is a possibility, Its been on TV,half the Island of la Palma in the canary islands is about ready to slide into the ocean , no one knows when, but here is a detailed document on the threat below, The predicted wave which focuses itself on the east coast of North and south America, the Caribbean , southern Ireland, southern Cornwall in England, and other islands in the Atlantic. its predicted to reach 10- 25 meters in height, thats 2 to 4 standard houses stacked ontop of each other .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml

But huge landslides and the mega-tsunami that they cause are extremely rare - the last one happened 4,000 years ago on the island of Réunion. The growing concern is that the ideal conditions for just such a landslide - and consequent mega-tsunami - now exist on the island of La Palma in the Canaries. In 1949 the southern volcano on the island erupted. During the eruption an enormous crack appeared across one side of the volcano, as the western half slipped a few metres towards the Atlantic before stopping in its tracks. Although the volcano presents no danger while it is quiescent, scientists believe the western flank will give way completely during some future eruption on the summit of the volcano. In other words, any time in the next few thousand years a huge section of southern La Palma, weighing 500 thousand million tonnes, will fall into the Atlantic ocean.

what will happen when the volcano on La Palma collapses? Scientists predict that it will generate a wave that will be almost inconceivably destructive, far bigger than anything ever witnessed in modern times. It will surge across the entire Atlantic in a matter of hours, engulfing the whole US east coast, sweeping away everything in its path up to 20km inland. Boston would be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami and the Caribbean.

Mega-tsunami: La ola de la destrucción (In Spanish)

here's a detailed analysis of the La Palma land slide and Tsunami:
http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~ward/papers/La_Palma_grl.pdf
 
LOL, that Koran book is full of bullshit. i find it sickening that millions of muslims are sitting up for this? are they hoping for it?
 
KoreBolteR said:
LOL, that Koran book is full of bullshit. i find it sickening that millions of muslims are sitting up for this? are they hoping for it?
Pff... The bible isn't much better...
 
KoreBolteR said:
LOL, that Koran book is full of bullshit. i find it sickening that millions of muslims are sitting up for this? are they hoping for it?
Therer is a lot of sound moral teaching in it, some people just like to read too much into it, kinda the same with the bible really, though I would give the bible more authoritory.
 
Da Funkey Gibbon said:
Therer is a lot of sound moral teaching in it, some people just like to read too much into it, kinda the same with the bible really, though I would give the bible more authoritory.


Sound moral teaching ? 'Keep your wife by force'? Behead someone because they have a different view ? Establish Islam as the dominate force in the world through terror ? Blow yourself up and go too heaven ? Mind you usually when you are a human bomb it generally targets again innocents. Although most Muslims would not do this I think a majority applaud the outcome. Like the parties in the streets after 9/11.
 
What does the bible teach? If your neighbour is a heathen, and don't want to convert.. Kill him! Democracy sucks, follow ONLY God, dictatorship is great! I heard some arab people moved in around you church.. Start a crusade and get rid of those bastards! (The bible actually doesn't say that, but the Koran doesn't say much about terrorism either)
 
Nm,

Anyway the U.S. falls so does most of the worlds economy and probably a nuclear war.
 
Mith' said:
What does the bible teach? If your neighbour is a heathen, and don't want to convert.. Kill him! Democracy sucks, follow ONLY God, dictatorship is great! I heard some arab people moved in around you church.. Start a crusade and get rid of those bastards! (The bible actually doesn't say that, but the Koran doesn't say much about terrorism either)

Show me where. Re: If your neighbour is a heathen blah blah blah. I have seen Love your enemies as you love yourself. And you would be wrong also about what the Koran says. Tell me you read it.
 
I'm not in the least bit worried.
 
Pff... The bible isn't much better...
The bible and the Koran are both full of shit.

I grew up a Christian, came out a Athiest :).
Don't you love how the world works?
 
Minerel said:
The bible and the Koran are both full of shit.

I grew up a Christian, came out a Athiest :).
Don't you love how the world works?
Me too!
 
The most powerful volcano in the world is due an eruption and humans have reached the average time for a species to exist acording to A Short History of Nearly Everything.

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Minerel said:
The bible and the Koran are both full of shit.
Have you ever read them?
 
Dalamari said:
Thank god I live in the center, and if anything faks up, I'll just move to Canada


Yep I can just see Canada allowing millions of American's into its country :p
 
Combine Elite said:
Show me where. Re: If your neighbour is a heathen blah blah blah. I have seen Love your enemies as you love yourself. And you would be wrong also about what the Koran says. Tell me you read it.

Show him where in the Koran it says:

Combine Elite said:
'Keep your wife by force'? Behead someone because they have a different view ? Establish Islam as the dominate force in he world through terror ? Blow yourself up and go too heaven ? Mind you usually when you are a human bomb it generally targets again innocents. Although most Muslims would not do this I think a majority applaud the outcome. Like the parties in the streets after 9/11.

Lads Im gonna take my standard Stance on this and say you're both Right and wrong cause neither of ye really have a clue



As for the Topic at hand,How many crock Scholers have proposed theories like this,That some historical document forsees the death of the greatest enemy the interpreters people face(Or believe they do)
Or the Swedish Geologist who proposed Ireland was the Lost Island of Atlantis.
Never believe these kinda people unless you see a giant wave careening toward you with a Giant Bearded apparition blowing it toward you.Then its time to quickly log on here and apologise for all past trangrssions.
 
I have never read the Koran or the Bible because the truth of his matter is that they are both boring.
If the Koran is anything like the bible then it would also having us believing that Jesus actually walked on water, turned water into wine, and feed the five thousand from a couple of fish and water. Maybe the Koran also teaches it's disciples that its messiah (savour) spent forty days and nights out in the desert without food and water.
According to the bible Jesus was born through a virgin....
Please I am no authority on the Koran but if it is anything like the bible is it is one big fairy tale.
 
ríomhaire said:
The most powerful volcano in the world is due an eruption and humans have reached the average time for a species to exist acording to A Short History of Nearly Everything.
Ok...explain the volcano part.
 
The most powerful volcano in the world is due an eruption and humans have reached the average time for a species to exist acording to A Short History of Nearly Everything.
Well in the Bible Codes were due in I believe 2012 is it? I forget exactly but its 2012 or 2015.

There are so many damn things that say when we die and how we die and why were here.
The fact is that I really just take it as complete bullshit now. Religion can be good, but it can also be the most deadly thing ever invented. It can cause people to travel hundreds of miles out of hatred twords another group to kill them.

It can cause millions upon millions of people slaughtered just because they believe something diffrent. It can cause people in he same room not to talk to eachother.

It can cause tons of deaths over one historical place.

I mean some people pick up on the religion from there parents. They stop searching for there...creator right then and there. While I would say I do not know how the universe was made. I do not know if where the only race in the universe. I do not know what is beyond a quark. I do not know how we were exactly made.
I would rather still be searching for those reasons, than to be presented a 1,000 reasons for each one and choose.
 
Crackpot alert.....

Just like every1 saying that in 1999, 2000 Y2k...all the rest. Yeah yeah....wake me when its over..
 
Minerel said:
Well in the Bible Codes were due in I believe 2012 is it? I forget exactly but its 2012 or 2015..

Actaully I believe that was according to the Mayan calendar. Or Inca. Damn cant remember, one of those groups I'm oretty sure tho
 
Combine Elite said:
Sound moral teaching ? 'Keep your wife by force'? Behead someone because they have a different view ? Establish Islam as the dominate force in the world through terror ? Blow yourself up and go too heaven ? Mind you usually when you are a human bomb it generally targets again innocents. Although most Muslims would not do this I think a majority applaud the outcome. Like the parties in the streets after 9/11.


I think to get a fair and balanced view of what it stands for, you should read it.

By your logic the bible stands for torture and war, which it quite clearly doesn't.
 
Minerel said:
The bible and the Koran are both full of shit.

I grew up a Christian, came out a Athiest :).
Don't you love how the world works?

good on you , lol

im nor athiest, nor am i any other religion.

i would say im "Religionless" and that i believe in scientific views.

the pope was chose because he was god's representative? did anyone hear god actually say ... "hmm him, yes him.. Karol whathisface for pope!!"

i myself find all religion bs.
i even hate the jahova witnesses..bastards.

Mith' said:
Pff... The bible isn't much better...

i hate the bible too
 
First off, let me say i'm not posting this to cause any flames. But let me say a few things.

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks.

The Koran... speaks of the US... which was borne MANY HUNDREDS of years after the formulation of the islam language? 'Riiiight'.

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks.

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

First off, let me say I hate racism... i'm a huge opponent of racism. Second, let me say that yes, the slavery experienced in the americas was nowhere near the severity of slavery experienced and practiced worldwide far before the united states has been formed. Also, let me say that many of those african tribes sold their own people(some), and their enemies as slaves to the white man. They enabled this. It wasn't just the white man who came in and stole everybody.

You know... Islam was formed as a widely accepted religion in what... the 600's AD? We're talking only about 1400 years ago, a short amount of time of the history of mankind. And the greatest atrocities of slavery have occured by the united states, as forseen supposedly in the Koran... a country that had over a thousand years yet to go before forming? What about the slavery practiced before Islam was developed as a religion? Does the Koran somehow ignore ALL the *VAST* slavery practices done by many and nearly all civilizations prior to the 600's? THe romans, the greeks, the Egyptians, the Macedons... the northern tribes at the time.

And THE PERSIANS. Which have comprised MUCH of what we now consider the middle east, and the ancestors of the majority of those who follow the teachings of the Koran. We're talking great atrocities of mankind here people... of slavery and cruelty etc to slaves that far surpasses without any sliver of a doubt the actions that the british and the americans etc have commited.

So forgive me, if I swallow this whole thing about a country that does not yet exist being predicted as the target of some devastating tsunami based on their infractions against humanity... when the fact is their slavery practices pale in comparisons to the ancient civilizations which predate christian and islamic cultures.

Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and "ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to use nuclear weapons during World War II.

Ethnic cleansing? ETHNIC CLEANSING!? The atomic bomb was not developed as some sort of ethnic cleansing weapon. For ****ing sakes, if this was an ethnic cleansing weapon, we would have given it to hitler to aid in his ethnic cleansing plan. But no, we used it to stop the Axis. The bomb was used on Japan as a means of ending a war that would escalate to such a scale as the americans attempted to invade Japan to end it... that more people would have died resolving the war that way, than with the atomic bomb. It was a military decision, not some ethnic cleansing tool, and its pure ignorance and bias that this statement comes from.

Russia doesn't have nukes for ethnic cleansing, britan doesn't, france doesn't, china doesn't, NORTH KOREA doesn't. The united states don't. These weapons aren't for ethnic cleansing... these weapons are for mass destruction and a means of a deterence and. Yes, atomic bombs are an evil thing, but no country that owns them keeps them for 'ethnic cleansing'. And certainly not america. Christ, if they wanted to ethnically cleanse, we'd have to nuke ourselves as we are a very diverse nation when it comes to ethnicities.

Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters) in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate heinous sins actually refer to the US.

This goes for the above rant I had about a country that did not exist for many many hundreds of more years. Just... bogus stuff. I respect the Koran, but to interpret it as a use for modern day propoganda? Please.

Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231 years.

How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

I thought we stopped believing this stuff back in high school? The fact that you can take many sorts of informations and use them to fabricate some number that suits your interests. When I was young, I believed this stuff, to me it was neat, and I believed it could be true. But you know what it is? Its a custom tailored coincidence. Nothing more.

I will say again. I respect the Koran, and those who follow Islam as a religion of peace. But the people who interpret this stuff to manipulate the masses deserve no more respect or admiration than those who purposefully interpret the bible or other religious text to manipulate the masses of those followers. You guys are ALL too keen to jump and accuse those of manipulations in the name of Christianity and Judaism... but you are never the same people to do the same when it comes to any other religions.

Why I ask... why?



EDIT: Whoa, edited a typo. 'as a language of peace'? haha. I need to get to bed! If there are any other typos\phrase typos, just chalk it up to me being tired, please.
 
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