Another Gman Theory - But refreshingly different

[bboymatty]

Ok i was just jumping through half life 1 and i realised something, the g-man model and THIS scientist

http://www.halflifexpert.com/hlworld/images/pak/scientist4.jpg

look a lot like each other.

For a moment, just think that they ARE the same person, how can this be? you may ask. This is what i think could possibly be the answer if in half life 3 we were hit with the bombshell that this unnamed scientist (now called 'scientist') is the g-man.

1. Scientist works at Black mesa, so take it as being granted that he has access to the teleporting technology and is possibly (but unknown at this stage) very involved with its production.

2. At some stage the scientist makes a "slow" time warp as they are called by kliener and realises its potential.

3. As the resonance cascade occurs, scientist jumps into time warp and propels himself into the future.

note: the time warp may have aged him artifically, as is present on the gmans face.

4. Gets out of the time warp and finds the world as he knew it has been destroyed by the events as black mesa. He augments his time warp with materials from the future and then goes back to black mesa (knowing that he cant interfere directly or hed hit something like a time paradox)

5. he uses gordon freeman and helps him during this movement (ie: opens the door to help gordon escape the radioactive goo)

6. Gordon kills nihilanth and g-man, realising gordons potential to stop the future from becoming a reality puts him on ice using his time warp technology to be used at a later time.

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Of course this is just a bare theory i just made up then. Its possible that during the time in the future the scientist is recruited by someone to find someone (gordon) to stop the invasion.

Now, maybe its just because modelling with the quake 2 engine wasnt fantastic and the team couldnt make as many unique features as they could with hl2, and thats why gman and the scientist look similar, but they do have alot in common.

This scientist isnt present in half life 2 anywhere (but nor is the albert einstein scientist) so unfortnatley i can only give u my view through the half life 1 game.

Maybe its purposeful why this scientist hasnt re appeared in half life 2? maybe its because he is the g-man and went into the future before this time could exsist?

these statements are tripping me out so much i can taste rainbows man! my head is spinning

have a look at his little thing i made up to give you a more illustrated look at these two and there similarities.

http://img136.exs.cx/img136/5263/theory14zj.jpg

anyways, i look forward to hearing your comments

bboymatty

 

[Ranga]

woh! u've obviously spent a long time htinking about this. It looks plausible!

 

[bboymatty]

hey ranga your in the same city as me man, im in perth too!

 

[Sid Burn]

Hmm... well, I think he cant be that scientist. G-man is a government man.

 

[Asknoone]

G-man is a government man.

No, he isn't. I think its blatantly obvious.

"While the codename Gman slipped into common use, it still remains only a codename, the actual name of this character is still open to speculation."

Thats for anyone with the gman=gordon theory, and government man

I doubt he is that scientist, at all really, theres still practically no evidence to point to a decent theory at this time imo.

 

[Tupper]

Awesome. Definitely a plausable theory. I've always loved time travel stuff

 

[kirovman]

It is a very interesting idea, and I think it is worth a little bit of thought.

My opinion though is that this scientist is not very important at all.
I think they just look similar.

Also by mentioning it here, this story will never happen because Valve will not choose a story path already mentioned

 

[Darkside55]

I can see you put some effort into this theory, but I am sorry, this theory is completely implausible. It was simply the fact that they have similarly-textured faces; this scientist and the g-man are not the same person.

In fact, personally, I don't notice any correlation between the two of them. They don't look alike at all, IMO.

Nice try though. At the very least, it was a different suggestion than everyone else posts, which is refreshing.

 

[kingsize]

Does the black mesa logo on g-mans suitcase in the end of hl1 mean anything ? (or maybe it isnt the black mesa logo)

 

[ríomhaire]

I thought before that they looked suspiciously similar but I think it was easter egg or a mistake

 

[CREMATOR666]

Valve's just too lazy to conjure up a new face texture from scratch. :hmph:

 

[Jintor]

Uh... the Gman's called Gman because Valve just took the name from Fans and decided it was mysterious. He wouldn't be half as freaky if he was called "Bob".

 

[ríomhaire]

Uh... the Gman's called Gman because Valve just took the name from Fans and decided it was mysterious. He wouldn't be half as freaky if he was called "Bob".

What are you talking about?
G-man was the models name. Because he looks like a G-man (A government man for those of you who don't know. He looks like the way he does so he could walk around Black Mesa with ease cause he looks offcial. Hence the Black Mesa logo on his briefcase. He keeps up the shape in HL2 because that is how you, and maybe the resistance know him as.

 

[Pai-Mei]

You know, I gotta say, even though I COMPLETELY disagree with this theory, he's gone to a lot of trouble to give us more evidence than most of the others have. I mean, he is right. They DO look similar. Granted, I think this is because 1998 textures weren't all that great, but how come we see a Kliner model in HL2, a Black Scientist model in HL2, but not this scientist's model in HL2?

And now for the counter argument:

For that matter, we don't see the old mustached scientist's model either.

5. he uses gordon freeman and helps him during this movement (ie: opens the door to help gordon escape the radioactive goo)

Actually, that's Adrian Shepherd he did that for. (And most people disregard everything in the expansion packs anyway.) In fact, it seems that the G-Man is attempting to hinder Gordon's progress. He always seems to be near locked or barricaded doors, and I know you see him walking away from a broken ladder near a bunch of generator pistons in "Apprehension." I do not think that he is helping Gordon so much as testing him. Notice how he watches you against the Gargantuan in power up?

 

[bboymatty]

QUOTE, Pai Mei: Actually, that's Adrian Shepherd he did that for.

ahhh. my mistake.

Personally i hope my little theory isnt true, coz i think it isnt of the caliber that we expect from valve in terms of storyline.

 

[cleckmoon]

When it was advertised as 'refreshingly', I thought it would include sprite.

But this is an interesting idea.

 

[StAtiC]

I think we are crossing the line between story and game mechanics. First off, I don't think they are similar at all in looks. Secondly, there are scientists like that one in the same areas of HL1 where the g-man is spotted. Impossible for him to be at the same place twice (not considering time travel). But most of all, I think that valve just happened to design the same character that looked alike. Half-Life Engine is not state-of-the-art.

 

[el Chi]

Well, despite the thought you put into your theory there's just one teensy weenesy problem: There was more than one of that particularly scientist. In fact there were a lot more of them. Some of whom died rather horribly. I know this because I stoved their heads in with my trusty crowbar. Ahem.
Seriously though, folks. It was a generic scientist model, I really wouldn't read too much into it.

 

[furiousV]

well heres something different, what if the Gman isnt a human, you heard the way he talks, similar to the vortiguants isnt it? ok, yuo probably thinkin u heard(read) this one before.
http://blackmesa.megazones.net is quite interesting, take a look. they even bring up that g-man may not even stand for government-guy, but god-guy or something else altogether.
or maybe hes the antichrist :O

 

[Pai-Mei]

well heres something different, what if the Gman isnt a human, you heard the way he talks, similar to the vortiguants isnt it? ok, yuo probably thinkin u heard(read) this one before.
http://blackmesa.megazones.net is quite interesting, take a look. they even bring up that g-man may not even stand for government-guy, but god-guy or something else altogether.
or maybe hes the antichrist

Holy shit are we recording this? This is groundbreaking! The G-man may not be human???!?!!?!?!?!?

Seriously, furiousV... just try reading one or two threads before posting. I mean, I've been here like 2 days and I already know that those theories have been posted a million times in a million different ways.

 

[furiousV]

ok, yuo probably thinkin u heard(read) this one before.

well i did say u probably all already heard about all that, but i was just sayin

 

[Pai-Mei]

Don't worry, furiousV, its just that there seriously are a MILLION different people who claim to think that they are different by offering up the speculation that the G-man may not be human.

 

[Ennui]

Well, despite the thought you put into your theory there's just one teensy weenesy problem: There was more than one of that particularly scientist. In fact there were a lot more of them. Some of whom died rather horribly. I know this because I stoved their heads in with my trusty crowbar. Ahem.
Seriously though, folks. It was a generic scientist model, I really wouldn't read too much into it.

Chi pretty much said it right there.

 

[The Mexican]

This does though make a nice welcome change from the other theory like Gman is Gordon Freeman.

Also noticed how in Hl2 in Kliners Lab where you see a photo with all the scientist. One of them does look like the gman. I know he just a scientist from hl1. But he looks alot like the gman.

 

[bboymatty]

yeh u all make good points and the probably the best excuse for their similarities is that textures back then wernt fantastically tweakable.
I think that the g-man head is also similar (or identical) to the soldier with the red beret. hes a squad leader or sumthing

just in reply to El Chi's comment:

"There was more than one of that particularly scientist. In fact there were a lot more of them. Some of whom died rather horribly. "

There were alot of every character model in half life 1. The kleiner and Vance models were seen dead or killed quite often too throughout the game. So was barney. So i dont think that plays an important role in whether they reappear or not.

In fact, the only scientist who wasnt cloned nor died was Dr.Rosenberg! and he was in blue shift!

 

[ríomhaire]

I though Rosenbourg used the generic Black scientist modle. Or am getting mixed up?

 

[Solver]

Nah, Rosenberg had a separate model, all the other scientists reused several models. Back in 1998, it was pretty good, actually. One model for security guards was not good, but 5 or so for scientists was.

I think the similarity between that scientist and the GMan is largely because the graphics weren't good enough, so they look similar, it's just a generic moment I believe. Also, if that scientist if the GMan, why does he speak normally when you talk to him, but the GMan has that strange speaking pattern?

 

[bboymatty]

thats true solver, i dont know?
best if we just say hes a alien again lol

 

[Tantalus]

Hmm... well, I think he cant be that scientist. G-man is a government man.

He's just called the g-man because he looks like an FBI agent. Or at least originally.

Anyways, I liked the idea. Sounds believable, and as you said refreshingly different.

 

[Tantalus]

Well, despite the thought you put into your theory there's just one teensy weenesy problem: There was more than one of that particularly scientist. In fact there were a lot more of them. Some of whom died rather horribly. I know this because I stoved their heads in with my trusty crowbar. Ahem.
Seriously though, folks. It was a generic scientist model, I really wouldn't read too much into it.

But also there were more than one Security Guards, but just one Barny. Of course Valve is going to want to re-use the models.

 

[bboymatty]

i wouldnt lay it off on the grounds it was 'just' a generic scientist model
judging by the picture that kleiner has of the research team, in reality it was a much smaller band of scientists than the hundreds of clones that we encountered.

i dont know, maybe im clutching at straws