Anti-Americanism everywhere?

[Gray Fox]

Wait, how come you voted for the nadermeister?

 

[Eejit]

The whole war between the Palistinians and Israel has been going on for hundreds of years. It'll never end.

Even when there was no Israel?

That's a good trick.

 

[Krynn72]

The whole war between the Palistinians and Israel has been going on for hundreds of years. It'll never end. The thing about this war I fear most is that it'll never get resolved and the US'll be battling the mid-east till the end of time.

Thats exactly what McCain is planning on.

 

[Kase]

People hate him because it's the cool thing to do.

no people hate because he is a Moron being cool has nothing to do with it :upstare:

 

[The Monkey]

The whole war between the Palistinians and Israel has been going on for hundreds of years.

That's quite a feat considering Israel has only existed for 60 years.

EDIT: Dammit, Eejit!

 

[CptStern]

To people who don't live there.

Do you find a lot of anti-Americanism in your general talk with people at work, friends, on the train etc etc?

I find it everywhere.

Common themes are

-Americans are all retarded
-Everyone is perplexed at how GWB became president
-To solve the worlds food shortage issues, all Americans must be destroyed?
-No wonder they got attacked during September 11th, they screw with dozens then when they're finally attacked Americans stand around gawking "what did we do to them?"?
-They helped Saddam fight Iran when it was convenient. When it wasn't convenient they ousted him? Retarded?
-Sarah Palin...How...what..why...how?

It goes on and on. Then of course everyone watches all the American TV shows and consumes their products on a daily basis feeding the great empire.

I dont see why you're comparing the government and it's policies with american culture ..Levis/Coke/Elvis has nothing to do with Bush/Palin/foreign policy

As an American I'd like to say I honestly don't give two shits what the world thinks of us. I like to worry about my own country and what it needs rather than focus on what the world thinks of us. I remember reading here in a different thread what is considered liberal here is conservative in Europe. I sincerely hope that doesn't change regardless of what the world thinks.

yes because OMG LIBERALS!!! ...this is in essence what you are saying without explaining yourself: irrational

As arrogant as it may sound alot of the hate comes from the overwhelming success of the USA in the last century.

you have a point, but not the point you think you're making ...yes arrogance, but it's your type of arrogance (manifested in things like the "U-S-A, U-S-A" chants (no, really do you guys realise how absolutely retarded that chant makes you look?) or "freedom fries") that leads to hate or jealousy because it is completely unfounded unless you quantify it. If we're talking culture then yes America has added a lot to culture and the arts ..if we're talking scientific advancement, then yes the US has added a lot ...but all this is completely meaningless because NONE of these reasons are why the US is "hated" ..at least in a general sense ..foreign policy, the fact that the US has pretty much done what it has wanted to do for the last 50 years or so whether moral or immoral (and lets face it when it comes to foreign policy it's overwelmingly immoral. ..there is no disputing this)

It's easy to criticize those at the top.

in terms of what? standard of living? nope sorry, healthcare? nope, education? nope ..unless you quantify your statement it's meaningless. broad statements are just that; broad statements overgeneralised to mean nothing

When our economy has issues it almost makes some people giddy and warm inside for some reason.

look I dont see how this completely escapes you but the iraq war didnt endear you to anybody ..there's not a single person (besides some stalwart republicans) who believes any justification for the war in iraq ..you're seen as bullies, you're seen as hypocritical, you're seen as borderline criminal for your actions in the middle east a long with a whole 50 year history of doing pretty much what you want to any nation you've gotten your greedy little hands on. this has absolutely nothing to do with americans in general and has been brewing for a very long time ..however, the recent hate or dislike is also fueled by blind support of the war, and religious extremism, and "freedom" fries, and "daylight savings time will save the enviromment we donts needs a kyoto accord" and torture in gitmo, and murder of innocents, and bush and his cronies ..all this has taken what has long been a quiet minority that criticises the US (foreign policy issues like: israel, niceragua, el salvador, haiti etc etc) into a vocal majority that lumps in all americans into one group

Personally I think though our economy has encountered some major issues it will be a dominant force for years to come and as a result we will be hated intensely for many more years down the road.

oh it's certainly not because you're ringing the war bells again with iran ..it has nothing to do with secret prisons, contuniued use of torture the continued rape and pillaging of iraq ...no, it's because WE'RE JEALOUS ...ya that sounds completely rational

 

[nurizeko]

If McCain gets into office I really want Britain to pull out of Iraq, maybe even Afghanistan.




"Sorry John, your mess man, you deal with it."


Britain has been a "good" (read, stupidly over loyal beyond reason, AKA being used) ally for eight years of dumb war, one of them completely unjustified.

I really don't think the British government can afford to ignore the wishes of its people with any more US started wars, it just wont happen, they'll have to choose between being a little arse sniffing tool of an ally or choosing continuing to govern the country.



If McCain gets in really, I can see America's allies dropping away faster then you can say "Ameeerica! **** yeah! comin' to save the mutha ****in' day yeah!".

 

[The Monkey]

You know what kind of Americans I hate? People who hates Obama for making this statement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4

The guy is spot-on here, but I've seen people citing that very audio clip the reason they're gonna vote for McCain instead. The constitution isn't perfect, get over it.

 

[staticprimer]

I'm curious though, what is the context of that statement?

 

[Laivasse]

It sounds like an expansion on a point made in his speech about racism, when he was being grilled on the Reverend Wright stuff. In the speech he said the Constitution was stained by the 'sin of slavery,' which I took to be a reference to how it was created upon a fundamental idea of equality yet people tended to turn a blind eye to the plight of black people at the time. Edit: see also the Three-Fifths Compromise.

Incidentally that speech about racism has been by far Obama's best one IMO.

 

[Tagaziel]

You know what kind of Americans I hate? People who hates Obama for making this statement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4

The guy is spot-on here, but I've seen people citing that very audio clip the reason they're gonna vote for McCain instead. The constitution isn't perfect, get over it.

I'm officially Obama's fanboy now.

 

[V-Man339]

Are you saying our educational system is low budget?

As far as I know, we dump more money into education than any other country, yet our test scores are some of the lowest in the world.

We need the youth to care. People who aspire to be educated, to discover, and we need teachers and leaders to inspire them to do it.


I care.

This is just like saying who "cares what your friends think of you?" Maybe you don't. Maybe you won't have friends for long. The same principle applies to the world population.

I had a best friend for many years and he did something I couldn't forgive. I was no longer friends with him, ever. Does that sound good to you for America?

No matter how strong any one country is, without allies, it is weak and powerless:

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I've been in Texas schools all my life.
I.E. I'm just above Oklahoma standards. You can't blame me for thinking the educational system needs work when I've been in the worst of it my entire life. :hmph:

 

[SIGbastard]

I don't understand personally why people always point to Clinton like the economy during his Presidency was solely due to him. In 1994 the republicans gained the majority in congress. Congress has just as much and probably more effect on the economy as the president. Furthermore everyone knows the economy was essentially on a bubble growing faster than sustainable largely due to the dot com frenzy/bubble. We went into a recession at the tail end of Clintons second term one which Bush inherited. I don't think anything Clinton did caused it really. Thats just how the economy works. It has ups and downs regardless who is in office. During Bush we have had 9-11, katrina, and now the mortgage crisis. I don't think it would matter who is president right now with the Sally Mae/Feddy Mac issue. There would be repercussions regardless who is in the white house.

The war is the only thing I think avoidable that is damaging to the economy. Our deficit would be alot lower without it. I say avoidable but I don't mean it was bad or good. I understand views differ widely on this issue. I honestly don't feel strongly one way or the other. I see the reasons it could be good in the long term but I also understand the other side of the argument.

 

[unozero]

That's quite a feat considering Israel has only existed for 60 years.

EDIT: Dammit, Eejit!

nitpick much?

he's right Muslims and Jews have been fighting each other for a couple hundred years the creation of the state of Israel just gave the Jews and edge over the "competition."

 

[unozero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBU80Ehr44s

 

[CptStern]

I don't understand personally why people always point to Clinton like the economy during his Presidency was solely due to him. In 1994 the republicans gained the majority in congress. Congress has just as much and probably more effect on the economy as the president. Furthermore everyone knows the economy was essentially on a bubble growing faster than sustainable largely due to the dot com frenzy/bubble. We went into a recession at the tail end of Clintons second term one which Bush inherited. I don't think anything Clinton did caused it really. Thats just how the economy works. It has ups and downs regardless who is in office. During Bush we have had 9-11, katrina, and now the mortgage crisis. I don't think it would matter who is president right now with the Sally Mae/Feddy Mac issue. There would be repercussions regardless who is in the white house.

The war is the only thing I think avoidable that is damaging to the economy. Our deficit would be alot lower without it. I say avoidable but I don't mean it was bad or good. I understand views differ widely on this issue. I honestly don't feel strongly one way or the other. I see the reasons it could be good in the long term but I also understand the other side of the argument.

way to ignore everybody's comments to your post SIGBastard ..instead you go off on some rtangent about clinton ...who ****ing cares about clinton?


oh and anyone who thinks universal healthcare is a bad thing needs their head examined ..have fun paying through the nose

 

[Saturos]

That's quite a feat considering Israel has only existed for 60 years.

EDIT: Dammit, Eejit!

Israel only existed for that long, (durka-dur, I know that! Israel became a nation after WWII) but the jews have been battling the palistinians forever. Kay?