'Any last words??....'

im not saying they should be freed, but given another chance at life. They had a bad upbringing im guessing, thats why im thankful for the upbringing i have had, so should all you ..
we are all lucky people.
also, i feel sorry for those "claimed" innocents :(
 
mindless_moder said:
anybody know why they go about writing the races of everyone :S ?
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Is there any reason why they shouldn't?

I think they do it as another part of identification really.
 
georgeblunt said:
just my 2 cents for all those death penalty supporters:
don't you think, it's a little controversial to say:
"hey.. you killed someone! that's the worst crime you can ever commit. it's against everything we believe in!... .. we gonna kill you for that!"..
hmm.. doesn't sound very logical to me.
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It also isn't logical to say "hey.. you killed someone! that's the worst crime you can ever commit. it's against everything we believe in!... .. we gonna spend billions of tax dollars to support you and others like you!"..
 
Foxtrot said:
It also isn't logical to say "hey.. you killed someone! that's the worst crime you can ever commit. it's against everything we believe in!... .. we gonna spend billions of tax dollars to support you and others like you!"..
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and that gives you the right to kill someone? just because he costs too much money?

the money you spend for that is the money you spend for your safety.. and to prevent other murders (by the gouvernment).
you spend it for a little bit of humanity and the right way of defending your right. you don't have to become murderers or make the gouvernment murderers just because others are.
you spend it to fight for a save, lawful and fair world.

don't get me wrong. i don't think that murderers had any reason to do what they did. they deserve really bad things. cause they are really bad people. but i think it's not the right way to do what they did to seek justice. "eye for an eye" isn't a very good way of looking at some things. and if there is just ONE innocent person, sentenced to death, this is the biggest argument against the death penalty. and there's not been just one up to now. there are lots of cases being pulled back/changed/whatever, while people were on the death row. if they had been already killed, is that bad luck for them? no.. it's a wrong system.

that's my opinion. i know there are other opinions and i accept those, too.
 
Depressing.. :(


Why dont they ban the death penalty unless the defendant pleads guilty?


That would seem a comprimise. Not a good one, but its an idea?
 
Foxtrot said:
It also isn't logical to say "hey.. you killed someone! that's the worst crime you can ever commit. it's against everything we believe in!... .. we gonna spend billions of tax dollars to support you and others like you!"..
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Death penalty is more expensive than life in jail.
 
You can't put a price on a human life, i'm happy to pay tax money to make sure someone who did something so foul and was convicted without doubt of the crime that they spend the rest of their lives looking at the same four walls and suffering.

Killing them is not only a get out for them but its final, and over... you can't reverse it incase of retrail.

We used to have the hanging and people have been aquited of their crimes decades after their deaths.

I also dont believe anyone can take away someones life, it's not up to them to decide who dies, thats the whole point in convicting murderers, not to become a murderer yourself in the punishment process.

It's sick.
 
I wonder how the guy feels pressing the button I bet he have dont any friends....
 
Lemonking said:
I wonder how the guy feels pressing the button I bet he have dont any friends....
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They have several people pull the switch at once. In most states, anyway.
 
georgeblunt said:
just my 2 cents for all those death penalty supporters:
don't you think, it's a little controversial to say:
"hey.. you killed someone! that's the worst crime you can ever commit. it's against everything we believe in!... .. we gonna kill you for that!"..
hmm.. doesn't sound very logical to me.
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No, you MURDERED someone.

MURDER is a defined term.

Taken from the Ten Commandments (not stating it as religion, but it's the basis of common western law) the original hebrew says, translated EXACTLY "Though shalt not murder" not "kill"

You can kill someone who is trying to kill you in self defense and you are in no way guilty, etc.

If you MURDER someone, you are guilty, and it opens the possibility of being killed as punishment for your crime.
 
Oh dear my dad just called and l asked where did I find this great Website
and asked why am such a pussy and that those people deserved it and then read to me what they did alot of things are sick I mean that one dude shot 14 month baby and killed her parents.He also told me I should think about wanting to become a Deputy Sheriff becuz I have a Softspot for Bad guys and im gonna get my self killed when I think like that on duty.
oh well what to do everyone has their own opinion
 
They should have asked for Pixie Caramel, the longer lasting chew.
 
Bad^Hat said:
They should have asked for Pixie Caramel, the longer lasting chew.
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Thats possibly the funniest, and the saddest thing i've heard all at once.

:LOL: ;(

And riddle me this batman, during a lethal injection, whats the purpose of swabbing the inmates arm and using a new needle each time? I mean, do they not want the dead guy to get an infection?
 
What was it the first guy ever to be executed with the electric chair said? "Hell, I'll try anything once."?
 
marksmanHL2 :) said:
Depressing.. :(


Why dont they ban the death penalty unless the defendant pleads guilty?


That would seem a comprimise. Not a good one, but its an idea?
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Because no one would plea guilty unless they want to die, and if they do then the death penalty isn't a very good penalty for them.
 
PvtRyan said:
Death penalty is more expensive than life in jail.
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With our flawed system now it is, we are in between 2 systems and we need to stick with one more efficient system, possibly incorporating both into one, just with more efficiency so we spend less money on these repeat criminals(who should be killed) and killing the murderes fast if there is enough evidence or possible a confession(although those are very rare).
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
No, you MURDERED someone.

MURDER is a defined term.

Taken from the Ten Commandments (not stating it as religion, but it's the basis of common western law) the original hebrew says, translated EXACTLY "Though shalt not murder" not "kill"

You can kill someone who is trying to kill you in self defense and you are in no way guilty, etc.

If you MURDER someone, you are guilty, and it opens the possibility of being killed as punishment for your crime.
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oh.. didn't know that. thanks for pointing out the difference.
you know, english is not my mothertounge.
 
I think that any "civilisation" that punishes people by killing them is going backwards, not forwards.
 
Bad^Hat said:
I can't believe I just dictionary.com'd that.
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You have to use urbandictionary.com on all words now, unless you don't want to be cool.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
No, you MURDERED someone.

MURDER is a defined term.

Taken from the Ten Commandments (not stating it as religion, but it's the basis of common western law) the original hebrew says, translated EXACTLY "Though shalt not murder" not "kill"

You can kill someone who is trying to kill you in self defense and you are in no way guilty, etc.

If you MURDER someone, you are guilty, and it opens the possibility of being killed as punishment for your crime.
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Religion is no justification for killing someone. Just ask those who died on 9/11...
 
holy shit texas executed almost as many people as were murdered in canada in the same year! :eek:
 
CptStern said:
holy shit texas executed almost as many people as were murdered in canada in the same year! :eek:
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AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA :LOL:
 
A mod needs to move this to politics.

The argument of accidentally executing innocent people is flawed. If someone is convicted after every trial including appeals, which are REQUIRED for convictions resulting in death, they are clearly not changing anyones minds. SO, the possibly 'innocent' convict is being sentenced to death.... instead of facing life in prison? The ONLY advantage of a life sentence is new evidence resurfacing and clearing a sentence. But I would rather die than be placed in Federal prison without a chance for parole.
 
This is very depressing. ;( Most of them say how much they love and will miss their parents and loved ones.
 
If even one innocent is killed the system is flawed and needs to get removed.
 
HunterSeeker said:
If even one innocent is killed the system is flawed and needs to get removed.
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Good luck trying to make some sort of perfect punishment system. :|
 
What about the innocents locked up for years at a time? I don't know what would be worse for me- leaving jail after a 15 year spell for a crime I didn't commit only to find both my parents dead and my sister dying of cancer or being killed. I only wish I could recall the poor man's name.

Interesting counterpoint- for those that believe imprisonment to be a greater punishment and the conviction of an innocent man reason enough to nullify a justice system, would you rather have the death penalty to lessen the suffering of innocent victims or a system of incarceration to increase the suffering of the guilty? You'd be surprised how many innocent men have died in prison, but at least partially served sentences can be revoked... despite what you might encounter after such a long time on the inside :( You can't give back a full life, and you can't give back decades of lost life.

That website is rather depressing, and I can't help but think that something as intimate as a last statement should be left untouched, or only published with the family's consent or express wishes.
 
destrukt said:
Good luck trying to make some sort of perfect punishment system. :|
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Well, jailtime is recallable. If an innocent is put in jail but proved innocent they can be freed.

Besides if you are put in jail you could commit suicide if you think death would be better.
 
gh0st said:
Its pretty interesting though, doesnt make many of them seem like hardened criminals.
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Wow, maybe time in prison gave them time to reflect on what they'd done and feel remorse. What are the chances of that heppening?

On a lighter note, and no disrespect meant in any way whatsoever, I'd like to go out with a joke.
"Any last words?"
"Yes actually. I say, I say, I say - my dog's got no nose..."
Hilarity ensues.
 
Interesting link, thanks for it... :)

And about the argument about Islam... I have stuff to say since I'm Muslim but I won't because it's off-topic.
 
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