Arab man who posed as Jew to seduce woman convicted of rape

[unozero]

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...ew-to-seduce-woman-convicted-of-rape-1.302895

An Arab resident of Jerusalem who had consensual sex with a woman who believed him to be Jewish, was convicted yesterday of rape by deception and sentenced to 18 months in prison by the Jerusalem District Court.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was convicted as part of a plea bargain. According to the indictment, Kashur met the complainant in September 2008 in downtown Jerusalem, presenting himself as a Jewish bachelor looking for a serious romantic relationship.

The couple then went to a nearby building and had sex, after which Kashur left the building without waiting for the woman to get dressed.

When the woman found Kashur was not a Jew but an Arab, she filed a complaint that resulted in charges of rape and indecent assault.

In the verdict, deputy president of the Jerusalem district court Tzvi Segal, along with fellow judges Moshe Drori and Yoram Noam, wrote that although this wasn't "a classical rape by force," and the sex was consensual, the consent itself was obtained through deception and under false pretenses.

The irony it burns so much:angel:

 

[Raziaar]

Wait, so it's rape because she found out he was Arabic and not Jewish?

 

[PvtRyan]

How she found out:

Her: "Is that... foreskin?"

Him: "Fuck, I knew I forgot something!"

 

[unozero]

Rape by deception,yup.

 

[Raziaar]

I guess Kashur wasn't Kosher enough.

 

[YROC]

Uh... k. :|

Who the **** hasn't tried woo a girl by lying?

 

[Matorbogl]

How she found out:

Her: "Is that... foreskin?"

Him: "Fuck, I knew I forgot something!"

I believe Muslims practice circumcision as well.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Oh well, got what he deserved.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Oh well, got what he deserved.

In what possible way is that true?

 

[DEATHMASTER]

He was being a deceptive creep.

 

[Raziaar]

He was being a deceptive creep.

She was obviously into him enough to have sex with him...who cares if he lied about what ****ing ethnicity he was. My god... what difference does it make. It only makes a difference to prejudiced individuals. She had sex with the dude, she couldn't tell the difference... but now she only knows the difference. And now it's rape.

Bullshit.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Religion is important to some people, especially those particular kinds. Though the fact that she had sex outside of marriage...

 

[Raziaar]

Religion is important to some people, especially those particular kinds. Though the fact that she had sex outside of marriage...

Doesn't make it rape.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Actually I was going to say 'makes her slutty and not very religious and should be stoned by their laws (or something horrible)'.

 

[Emporius]

She was obviously into him enough to have sex with him...who cares if he lied about what ****ing ethnicity he was.

When the woman found Kashur was not a Jew but an Arab, she filed a complaint that resulted in charges of rape and indecent assault.

Quite a bit I'd say.

 

[Calhoun]

I am looking forward to the retaliation lawsuit, where she is sued for religious discrimination.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Religion is important to some people, especially those particular kinds.

Please tell me how this makes an 18 month jail sentence okay. I'm all ****ing ears.

 

[15357]

I understand this completely. Over here we have a law called "Rape by deception of marriage" meaning that someone who pretends to want to marry someone and has sex with them, but that isn't true, you get convicted.

Replace marriage with religion and you get the same deal.

 

[Raziaar]

I understand this completely. Over here we have a law called "Rape by deception of marriage" meaning that someone who pretends to want to marry someone and has sex with them, but that isn't true, you get convicted.

Replace marriage with religion and you get the same deal.

What a stupid law that is. Government shouldn't be involved in that sort of thing.

 

[15357]

What a stupid law that is. Government shouldn't be involved in that sort of thing.

Well, you have to understand that

#1. Pre-marital sex in East Asia was almost nil due to the inherent cultural attitudes towards purity.

#2. Sex with your "fiance" was thought to be an exception, although perhaps not by all.

#3. People exploited this attitude in order to get laid at the expense of naive girls.

#4. Not being a virgin could mean that you might not be able to marry, especially in rural areas.


Laws are almost never just there. Circumstances make it necessary for laws to exist; I doubt lawmakers thought about making that law without necessity.


Back in 2009, I think the law was repealed, because it could now be exploited by women instead.

 

[Orcone101]

Haha. What shitty countries. I'll be in the land of dingos and large rocks, enjoying my internet filter and getting imprisoned for naked pictures of Bart and Lisa because they're classed as child porn.

 

[Raziaar]

Well, you have to understand that

#1. Pre-marital sex in East Asia was almost nil due to the inherent cultural attitudes towards purity.

#2. Sex with your "fiance" was thought to be an exception, although perhaps not by all.

#3. People exploited this attitude in order to get laid at the expense of naive girls.

#4. Not being a virgin could mean that you might not be able to marry, especially in rural areas.


Laws are almost never just there. Circumstances make it necessary for laws to exist; I doubt lawmakers thought about making that law without necessity.


Back in 2009, I think the law was repealed, because it could now be exploited by women instead.

ARGH! Why did I have the interest of learning Korean? I won't be able to go to Korea and have fun, because I'll be bound by stupid laws!

Japan is freaky... maybe I should learn Japanese... all the shit I'd do is mild compared to what they allow there, those sexually sadistic freaks!

 

[Warped]

To me this is pure sex. As long as he had a dick and she a pussy there is no deception. Now if he was a transvestite I could see the huge difference

 

[15357]

ARGH! Why did I have the interest of learning Korean? I won't be able to go to Korea and have fun, because I'll be bound by stupid laws!

Japan is freaky... maybe I should learn Japanese... all the shit I'd do is mild compared to what they allow there, those sexually sadistic freaks!

Well, we're more 'open' nowadays, more so than I would like. The law I'm talking about was created back in 1949 or something.


Besides, you shouldn't be having too much fun while pillaging our villages and taking our women.

 

[Bad^Hat]

#1. Pre-marital sex in East Asia was almost nil due to the inherent cultural attitudes towards purity.

#3. People exploited this attitude in order to get laid at the expense of naive girls.

See, there's a very simple causality here that has little to do with people being exploited. You raise your girls to value virginity and trust men implicitly, you're not leaving them much else but naivety.

Guys have dicks. They like to put them in things. Why there are still parts of the world where people vehemently deny this in the name of "purity" I will never understand.

Edit: Not talking about Korea specifically, sorry if it came across that way. >_>

Japan is freaky... maybe I should learn Japanese... all the shit I'd do is mild compared to what they allow there, those sexually sadistic freaks!

"The shit they do over there" you can already do from the privacy of your room.

Alone.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

This is not rape. If they call that rape then they better charge every guy who's lied about a job or wealth to get laid with rape as well.

 

[Wanted Bob]

Haha. What shitty countries. I'll be in the land of dingos and large rocks, enjoying my internet filter and getting imprisoned for naked pictures of Bart and Lisa because they're classed as child porn.

Dont forget your $100 + video games!

 

[ríomhaire]

Well, you have to understand that

#1. Pre-marital sex in East Asia was almost nil due to the inherent cultural attitudes towards purity.

#2. Sex with your "fiance" was thought to be an exception, although perhaps not by all.

#3. People exploited this attitude in order to get laid at the expense of naive girls.

#4. Not being a virgin could mean that you might not be able to marry, especially in rural areas.


Laws are almost never just there. Circumstances make it necessary for laws to exist; I doubt lawmakers thought about making that law without necessity.


Back in 2009, I think the law was repealed, because it could now be exploited by women instead.

I believe there used to be a similarish law in Ireland. The basic idea was that a man could stay engaged to a woman for years but not actually marry her and by the time he broke it off she could be too old to find another man/have kids. I don't really know much about the law, I've only heard of it once.

 

[Eejit]

Rape by deception? Bullshit, if Uther Pendragon can do it with Merlin's help why can't this guy?

 

[Druckles]

Actually I was going to say 'makes her slutty and not very religious and should be stoned by their laws (or something horrible)'.

Hypocritical much?

If he was Jewish, the charge wouldn't have been made, they still wouldn't have been married and the post-coital circumstances wouldn't have changed. Except for the fact he's now going to be jailed.

 

[Robbo]

This is the fault of both parties
One for lying.
and the other for sleeping with a random without knowing who they were.
To call this rape and give jail time is just stupid, especially when there was no damage done (we can assume that she didn't care about that purity crap)