Are these art?

[Jintor]

Tell me your opinions.

/EDIT And, for the record, I believe them all to be artforms. Webcomics most recently.

 

[The Monkey]

Art is a subjective word; what is considered art differs from person to person.

I consider quality paintings, litterature, movies, TV shows, video games etc. to be art. Of course, what is quality also differs from person to person.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Agreed. They all CAN be art, but just being in the category doesn't make something art by default.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[CyberPitz]

Agreed. They all CAN be art, but just being in the category doesn't make something art by default.

-Angry Lawyer

Doubly agreed. Shit, lets make it triply.

 

[Majestic XII]

Good, we can close this thread now. Everyone agrees

 

[theotherguy]

I hate the distinction between "commercial" and "art". All of these, and all books and paintings are both commercial and art, some are just better pieces of art than others.

 

[15357]

Agreed. They all CAN be art, but just being in the category doesn't make something art by default.

-Angry Lawyer

I agree. However, there aren't very many webcomics or video games that I consider artsy enough.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

All.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I agree. However, there aren't very many webcomics or video games that I consider artsy enough.

True, but they've really not yet reached the length of existance as the rest of them. Computer games that actually have the capability of being artistic have only been about for seven years, or so, and webcomics probably less.

Out of the list, I think webcomics are the least likely to produce pieces defined as "art", though, as webcomics are usually designed to entertain and bring comedy, rather than a deep meaning.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[theotherguy]

Again, I don't think art has to have meaning to be called art. I think that entertainment is an art in itself.

 

[Godron]

Again, I don't think art has to have meaning to be called art. I think that entertainment is an art in itself.

Yep. I consider to be art anything which serves no practical purpose but is pleasing in some way to observe. So music, movies, games, drawings, the lot really.

 

[Vegeta897]

I'd say all of them are art.

Max Payne is a great example of an artsy game.

 

[Dog--]

Idk why, but I see video games, comics and web comics as art, but not movies.. I mean - In the 3 I said your drawing, modeling, sculpting, etc. In movies, I consider the script writer as an artist, and the script as his art, but not the movie itself. For the same reason as the script writer/script, I say music is art because they write songs, and write music, then play it.. Pretty much what Godron said, but I dunno, I just don't consider movies as an art..

 

[Angry Lawyer]

To me, "art" is something that is representative of a deeper concept or idea than what's at face value. I.e. an FPS that, by the end of it, makes you feel sick of killing because it's morally wrong.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Ennui]

Agreed. They all CAN be art, but just being in the category doesn't make something art by default.

-Angry Lawyer

Schwing!

Art is a two-side equation. Most VGs or comics aren't really art... they could be interpreted as so, but there's intention required as well. Still, something like Half-Life 2 especially, with a really epic story that makes you, as the gamer, feel like something entirely different... art. I don't know about you guys, but playing through HL2 for the first time, I seriously felt like a hero of the revolution, it was some moving stuff.

 

[Steel.Inferno]

I voted all, but really it depends on the piece. For a video game example:

Generic Sports game 2007 is not art.

Bioshock is art, both parts within it and the thing as a whole.

Most webcomics I wouldn't really consider art, thinking about it. Unless you consider humor an art form (which it could be said to be).

 

[kirovman]

Art is a subjective word;

I was going to say that.s

I think that art should be able to be appreciated a couple of generations after the creator's death.

I'm sure Half-Life and Doom will be considered art in the year 2100.

 

[Jintor]

So you mostly agree that each of these mediums has the potential to be art?

/EDIT create works of art, spawn works of art from it, etc.

I was asking 'cos I read an anecdote where Neil Gaiman said to some editor he writes 'Comic Books', and the dude lost interest until he also mentioned that he'd done 'The Sandman' and the editor said "Holy crap, man, you don't write comic books! You write graphic novels!"

It was like, wut?

 

[Steel.Inferno]

A bunch of people associate comic books with tights-clad superheroes, and graphic novels with more serious/realistic stories.

I do that, actually. I should stop myself from thinking like that. I don't know the official distinction...

Epic siggeh quote, Jintor.