Are you guys posotive that valve aren't just BS'ing us about the MP?>

I hate how it has become "cool" and "pro" to hate counter-strike and it's players.

Can't be that cool or pro considering that CS players dwarf pretty much every other game combined. :)

Anyway, Apos, Quake II, before HL, was the finest FPS. Oh, and Quake III was vanilla DM..

Came with CTF I believe (albiet the start of the tragic, no hook, no runes direction of CTF). Also had 32 player DM from the start.

Q2 was not a particularly great SP game, IMHO. Some 2 and one half D games were more fun. The MP was of course the best thing around unless you preffered Q1 still, but still, that was not to last too much longer. :)
 
A lot of cs players call CS players idiots ;)

The person who says such things is always the exception to the rule ^^
 
Apos said:
Came with CTF I believe (albiet the start of the tragic, no hook, no runes direction of CTF). Also had 32 player DM from the start.


DM, TDM, CTF, Tournament.

The Team Arena addon added Monolith, Harvester, One flag CTF, Runes and new weapons.
 
Maybe they are going to release TFC 2 as the multiplayer, and kept it hush hush to STOP any hype on the game so they don't get accused of hyping up a shit game?
 
Cabb said:
Maybe they are going to release TFC 2 as the multiplayer, and kept it hush hush to STOP any hype on the game so they don't get accused of hyping up a shit game?

Uh oh, you shoudn't say TFC2, it's TF2. I don't even know what's the difference, but there are people here who will get mad if you make such a gigantic mistake :)
 
Valve have said that CS: Source is NOT HL2's multiplayer. So be quiet about it!

Second, Valve has also said they have something special. I doubt it'll be a DM; if it was it'll have some great flavor to it. Do you think that for 5 years they couldn't come up with something to blow us away?

I guess we'll see though...hopefully I am right :D I really want some HL2 flavored multiplayer.
 
I quote from the may 2003 issue of PC Gameplay:

(roughly translated from Dutch)

PCGP: I know now that there is a multiplayer portion... was MP very important to you?

GN: Yes very much so. The multiplayer portion was one of the reasons why the original HL became so succesful. We're gonna fully support the mod community and in HL2 itself there will be numerous multiplayermodes and maps, but I can't eloborate on that too much now. But you can be assured that it will all be present.

PCGP: Will there be vehicles in the multiplayer mode?

GN: Yes, you can drive vehicles aswell as in multiplayer as in singeplayer mode. On top of that, it's now perfectly possible for creative modmakers to use physics to make their own vehicles. The possiblities are endless.
 
AH HAH. SEE. I TOLD j00 lAMrz0rzzz!!!1one

Well, I was right. There will be new modes! w00t.
 
PvtRyan said:
I quote from the may 2003 issue of PC Gameplay:

(roughly translated from Dutch)

PCGP: I know now that there is a multiplayer portion... was MP very important to you?

GN: Yes very much so. The multiplayer portion was one of the reasons why the original HL became so succesful. We're gonna fully support the mod community and in HL2 itself there will be numerous multiplayermodes and maps, but I can't eloborate on that too much now. But you can be assured that it will all be present.

PCGP: Will there be vehicles in the multiplayer mode?

GN: Yes, you can drive vehicles aswell as in multiplayer as in singeplayer mode. On top of that, it's now perfectly possible for creative modmakers to use physics to make their own vehicles. The possiblities are endless.

But that was one year ago, things might have changed by now..
 
Diablo2k said:
But that was one year ago, things might have changed by now..

WHY. TELL ME WHY. Just because we saw CS: S and they announced the mods redone in Source, everyone now thinks that there will be no unique MP.

HELLO. This is Valve, mmmk? Not EA, not Activision, Vallvveeee. These guys have more creativity and brains than any company out there. I rest my case. :imu:
 
i don't see what the arguement is about, valve has already stated that cs:s won't be the official hl2 mp, but it will be released as an extra for the sp version, that people is the sp version of hl2, what about standar with sp and mp, if the cs:s will be an exclusive add-on to sp, then what will standard get, obviously not counter-strike, most of the arguments of the pessimists in this thread make absolutely no sense
 
WaterMelon34 said:
if they lied to us about MP id prolly kill valve employees: SHOW ME YOUR LEADER!

how could they lie to us about MP if they haven't shared any info about it?
 
And why would they lie about MP if it was the BIGGEST part of HL (The DM was big, not just the mods) so unless they were very retarded or lazy, they won't leave it out/lie about it, I doubt it's very complicated to just put DM in a game anyways.
 
yah that was one year ago. now i bet teh MP is only old ass mods.


i wanted hl2 mp with vehicles and shit. driving around with buggy owning people in a huge sand dune,then manipulating their corpses at them after respawn
 
Subz said:
yah that was one year ago. now i bet teh MP is only old ass mods.


i wanted hl2 mp with vehicles and shit. driving around with buggy owning people in a huge sand dune,then manipulating their corpses at them after respawn


Which reminds me...

Gabe: People asked what's for multiplayer, so we thought why not port the best multiplayer action game on source, counter-strike!

Doug: Do I hear a w00t?

People: yipee? when is the game going to release?

Gabe: So this is the Aztec map we are demonstarting...

People: when is the game going to release?

Gabe: We are planning to port all our mods to source, which includes TF, HL...

People: DAMNIT!..When the **** are you gonna release the game!

Gabe (to doug): Dougy, your market strategies are crap, fired.

Doug: No comment.
 
LOL Doug really is a space cadet, isn't he?

I'm just surprised nobody else at Valve realises his marketing is fubar.
 
I think I threw up a little. CS:s is going to sell like hot cakes? HAVE YOU ALL GONE MAD!?I expected some CS loser to port it anyway...FOR FREE. If you are one of those people who will suck the verylast drop of coke out of the can then I suppose your saddistic mind would like CS:s

What kind of FREAKY cs junky has the random cash to throw away on what seems like a gaming addiction? CS:s is a joke, CS:cz is a JOKE, go buy another joke from VALVE in a time like this! They are hanging on by a thread, thousands of reatarded threads like anyone who thinks CS:s is a product worth BUYING.

I am out. that's it, I can't sit around and listen to retarded crap.
 
Subz said:
yah that was one year ago. now i bet teh MP is only old ass mods.


i wanted hl2 mp with vehicles and shit. driving around with buggy owning people in a huge sand dune,then manipulating their corpses at them after respawn
Yeah, I know, great plan, scrap what we've been working on, and just use Source Ports. GREAT IDeA!!!!111

Oh, and wonkers, I'm not stopping you leaving...
 
Guys, chill.

I think it's pretty clear that Valve are purposely leaking out info, to get us all excited beforehand, but not so excited we all blow our heads. I think the final details on the HL2 MP are going to be the last things to be released, and I expect them to be interesting.

As for people buying CS:S, I think it's pretty much inevitable. Even if only half the original community buy it, and only half of those play it for a long time, it'll still be more popular than the closest competitor. I'm not saying CS is a good game, I'm simply stating the truth of the matter.
 
Oh, don't go, you will so deeply missed!

Seriously, of course CS junkies will move to CS:S, if only for the cool water effects and so on. You can call it retarded, call people that buy it retarded, but that doesn't change the fact that people will almost assuredly buy it the minute it's released.
 
wonkers said:
I am out. that's it, I can't sit around and listen to retarded crap.

Hey don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
 
Bah, how could Valve make a multiplayer demonstration and actually create more questions than answers?

All I really want is the basic multiplayer options (DM, CTF, TDM). We can let the mod makers worry about new and fresh multiplayer modes.
 
wonkers said:
I think I threw up a little. CS:s is going to sell like hot cakes? HAVE YOU ALL GONE MAD!?I expected some CS loser to port it anyway...FOR FREE. If you are one of those people who will suck the verylast drop of coke out of the can then I suppose your saddistic mind would like CS:s

What kind of FREAKY cs junky has the random cash to throw away on what seems like a gaming addiction? CS:s is a joke, CS:cz is a JOKE, go buy another joke from VALVE in a time like this! They are hanging on by a thread, thousands of reatarded threads like anyone who thinks CS:s is a product worth BUYING.

I am out. that's it, I can't sit around and listen to retarded crap.

Please dont come back...
 
All I really want is the basic multiplayer options (DM, CTF, TDM). We can let the mod makers worry about new and fresh multiplayer modes.

You know, I've been thinking, and really, even this is sort of silly. While it might be fun to mess around with a DM mode, any of the ported mods would be more than sufficient provided it was a good port. I might not like it, but I also don't see what purpose a pointless DM or CTF mode would be without the frills of a real mod like DoD, TF, or CS.
 
I love CS, and I can't wait for CS:S. It'll be incredible. And to the person who said that CS fans are idiots: go screw yourself. Everyone has their own taste. You might like Halo, yet I despise that game, yet I can accept the fact that some people like it and to them its a great game. Same thing applies here.

MORON!
 
i dont think the source MOD's are multiplayer becuase you have to buy them sepratly like Gabe said....so ppl would be buying the single and multiplayer edition and then finding out that there is no multiplayer in it and they gotta buy it sepratly
 
Apos said:
You know, I've been thinking, and really, even this is sort of silly. While it might be fun to mess around with a DM mode, any of the ported mods would be more than sufficient provided it was a good port. I might not like it, but I also don't see what purpose a pointless DM or CTF mode would be without the frills of a real mod like DoD, TF, or CS.

True. I was thinking along the same lines. Why have a crappy death match when you can have a better mod. However no one can deny the greatness of owning your friends with a buggy and bashing their skull with something from a manip gun.
 
Apos said:
You know, I've been thinking, and really, even this is sort of silly. While it might be fun to mess around with a DM mode, any of the ported mods would be more than sufficient provided it was a good port. I might not like it, but I also don't see what purpose a pointless DM or CTF mode would be without the frills of a real mod like DoD, TF, or CS.

You see I am sick of status quo. I don't want CS, I don't want DoD, I don't want TFC, I want something fresh. If Valve created a bunch of new maps for each port, yes it maybe sufficient. However, from my understanding these ports are going to be that, just ports. No new content will be added, just a simple port.

With a DM/CTF possibility, you get new maps and new gameplay. Yes, its not original as CS, but it is something new to experience. Also, I think most of us are disenchanted from DM because there hasn't been a game to do DM right in a long time. And once people get tired of DM/CTF, new and original mods will start hitting the HL2 scene.
 
I don't want CS, I don't want DoD, I don't want TFC, I want something fresh.

CTF and DM are not exactly "fresh." They been done a million times over. Again, that doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer a real HL2-themed MP game over the ports, but only if it was a really original mod. Just a vanilla DM or even CTF mode wouldn't excite me all that much.
 
whether valve makes hl2 DM or not, we WILL see it. dont underestimate mod makers. we just need the SDK, some chunks of some SP levels from city 17, and we could make our own hl2 dm
 
bAbYhEaDcRaB said:
imo it's clear as rain that TF2 is HL2 multiplayer :D

I believe the exact same and no matter what people say i will continue to think that until the day we actually all find out, but from everything that's been going on and etc it all kinda makes sense. Make money for CS:S and the other popular mods like DOD, those 2 will bring in money and HL2...then for a suprise they include TF2 with HL2 also with a DM just like the original....we shall wait and see. PC GAMER US staff believes TF2 is also the multiplayer cause gabe holds meetings for TF2 all the time and they all believe they are closer to a reveiling than we all believe.
 
MP will be something good and the reason there not showing us, is because its gonna be really cool and they want to keep it a suprise! look at the interview at www.gamespot.com and he says that there is MP there keeping it a secret.
 
Darkknighttt said:
MP will be something good and the reason there not showing us, is because its gonna be really cool and they want to keep it a suprise! look at the interview at www.gamespot.com and he says that there is MP there keeping it a secret.

Now if we all only had gamespot complete...
 
Darkknighttt said:
MP will be something good and the reason there not showing us, is because its gonna be really cool and they want to keep it a suprise! look at the interview at www.gamespot.com and he says that there is MP there keeping it a secret.

Actually he says, "Half-Life 2's multiplayer is something we're not talking about because we want to keep it as a surprise for our customers as we roll into our launch cycle. I play it every day. I think it's going to be very popular with the community."

Well that cleary shows the launch cycle is coming up since they announced at E3. He says he believes it will be very popular with the community.....COUNTER STRIKE. Now it's still a possiblity for TF2 and as much as i want to believe that it's hard because im doubting it so much at the same time.
 
Look even if HL2 has regular DM for multiplayer, there will be Sven Co-Op 2. And Sven Co-Op 2, will bring what it brought to HL onsept alot more.
Sven Co-Op 2 will be ownage...
Isn't Cs:Source or all the ported over mods coming out the same day as Hl2? If not some come with Hl2?.
 
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