Armed right wingers show up at Obama event

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For those of you unfamiliar with firearms, that slide switch is referred to as a safety. You move it to where the red dot isn't showing and it means you can't pull the trigger.

Might I also add that anyone with the cojones to bring a gun to an event like that is likely experienced with firearms and knows the number one rule is keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot, and the other is don't point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy.

Hell, half the people there probably didn't even have any bullets.

Man I don't even know why I posted this but it pisses me off how people against firearms don't even know the basics of how you handle a weapon.

Here's a link, for those of you who are interested.
 
Maestro said:
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For those of you unfamiliar with firearms, that slide switch is referred to as a safety. You move it to where the red dot isn't showing and it means you can't pull the trigger.

Might I also add that anyone with the cojones to bring a gun to an event like that is likely experienced with firearms and knows the number one rule is keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot, and the other is don't point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy.

Hell, half the people there probably didn't even have any bullets.

Man I don't even know why I posted this but it pisses me off how people against firearms don't even know the basics of how you handle a weapon.

Here's a link, for those of you who are interested.
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Why bring weapons to a townhall meeting on health care reform especially when the first black president is present? That's what you don't understand, and I don't give a **** if these guys are navy seals. You bring guns to a political discussion it only means one thing, that you're too ****ing stupid to use words and you'd rather use the threat of violence to get your point across.
 
Maestro said:
Might I also add that anyone with the cojones to bring a gun to an event like that is likely experienced with firearms and knows the number one rule is keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot, and the other is don't point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy.
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Likely experienced...not definitely experienced. That alone proves our point. Even if every single person was a professional, you still cannot account for the people around him. "I know, I'll bring my AR-15 and carry it on my back...seems like the safest way to get my point across, if only I had a point besides wanting to look dangerous".

Maestro said:
Hell, half the people there probably didn't even have any bullets.
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Probably a half didn't have bullets...so you're saying out of half of the people with guns, most of that half didn't have ammo. Wow, I'm convinced.

Maestro said:
Man I don't even know why I posted this but it pisses me off how people against firearms don't even know the basics of how you handle a weapon.
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What does this have to do with the mental stability of the person in question? I'm sure psychos know a lot about their guns.
 
@ Gunner: if that is your position you might want to change your name... its just a little hypocritical.
 
leib10 said:
Arizona has an open carry law; I see no law-breaking being done here,
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I said this earlier in this thread and I stand by it:

cptstern said:
no they had no reason to be intimidated by armed thugs at angry protests on HEALTHCARE REFORM. only a gun nut would find this perfectly acceptable
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see sulkdodds? this is what I mean that your well thought out points are wasted on those who should heed them

leib10 said:
other than paranoid liberalism at work.
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yes it's perfectly normal for people to be armed at political protests. god knows not a single conservative would ever deny someone bringing a gun to a anti-war protest or a rally against globalism . the distinction is that these are good well meaning patriotic people and the others are liberal hippies with itchy trigger fingers

leib10 said:
Also, the thread title implies that the people carrying weapons were right-wingers, no proof on that (as if it's impossible for left-wingers to own firearms).
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so liberals were protesting healthcare reform?

leib10 said:
Yes, they're in the presence of the President; there's nothing the Secret Service and local law enforcement couldn't handle.
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so it's justified because there's enough secret service men to handle the situation? what if everyone was armed? would that change things? what if they were anarchists with permits to carry at an anti war protest? would that change your mind? it's only permissable if you agree with the issue. this shit will end in bloodshed because your side is too ****ing blind and stupid to think rationally

leib10 said:
Just another overreaction and thinly veiled attack by gun control advocates, nothing more.
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:rolling: what the **** does this have to do with gun control? this is about lunatics carrying guns at a HEALTHCARE REFORM protest. the **** is wrong with you? your partisanship is so ingrained you cant even see this for what it is: intimidation and one step away from saying "my gun is here to take back the government should the government enact healthcare reform"




Maestro said:
For those of you unfamiliar with firearms, that slide switch is referred to as a safety. You move it to where the red dot isn't showing and it means you can't pull the trigger.
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how does that change anything? a safety can easily be unlocked


Maestro said:
Might I also add that anyone with the cojones to bring a gun to an event like that is likely experienced with firearms and knows the number one rule is keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot, and the other is don't point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy.
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yes because people with frearm experience have never made mistakes. it absolutely never happens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAVYFRM5Tl8

in essence you are asking the rest of us to TRUST a stranger that he knows how to handle a firearm. well **** you, I trust no one with a gun. were they rational people they wouldnt have one to begin with.

Maestro said:
Hell, half the people there probably didn't even have any bullets.
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you know this because you personally looked down the barrel of everyone who had a firearm? I approve of your methods however unless you have actual numbers I'm going to have to call that speculative drivel based on nothing but gut instinct
 
All armed ******s who show up should be executed by the SS, preferably by sniper.
 
Tyguy said:
Nobody is arguing that they were breaking the law...read the entire thread



The right wing is responsible for a high majority of gun advocates. Can you deny this? Of course democrats could have brought guns, but it's much more likely the people who subscribe to the gun advocacy party would be the ones carrying guns.



Like an assassination attempt? That has never happened...:rolleyes:



Being concerned about nuts bringing firearms to a public venue is not a ****ing over reaction.
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-No, they were not making the direct accusation, but the media in this country tends to frame the ownership of a firearm as some sort of crime, which it's not.

-More likely, I suppose (it is Arizona). Once again a framing issue by the media, which inundates us to believe that if you own a gun, you are right-wing, no questions asked.

-As stated somewhere else on this forum, Obama is receiving 30 death-threats a day. All of which the Secret Service takes seriously. Believe me, they would not have let the man close to the president if they thought he was in danger.

-Once again, liberal thinking (the cool thing to do these days) has led us to believe that owning a gun automatically makes you the unhinged, backward hillbilly sitting in some shack in rural Alabama and plotting to assassinate the president. It doesn't.
 
A simple retention holster will prevent anyone other than the owner from pulling the gun. Guns also don't randomly discharge every time you bump into something. I can understand some hesitance from people unfamiliar with handling weapons, so you really ought to give handling a weapon a try. Knowledge is power right?
 
Exactly. It's damned hard to have a weapon go off accidentally, even if you drop it. The AR-15 the man was carrying has a very heavy trigger pull, making accidental discharges unlikely (I have two of them, and never have I come close to the thing going off when I didn't want it to). Besides, it is unknown if a round was chambered or not, because no round in the chamber means no firing, period. Even if one was chambered, there is such a thing as a safety.
 
You guys are assuming that all of the people who brought the guns to the healthcare debate are not idiots. I'd wager that they were, considering they brought guns to a healthcare debate.
 
leib10 said:
Exactly. It's damned hard to have a weapon go off accidentally, even if you drop it. The AR-15 the man was carrying has a very heavy trigger pull, making accidental discharges unlikely (I have two of them, and never have I come close to the thing going off when I didn't want it to). Besides, it is unknown if a round was chambered or not, because no round in the chamber means no firing, period. Even if one was chambered, there is such a thing as a safety.
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who cares? the possibility is still there. and this still is true:

krynn72 said:
You guys are assuming that all of the people who brought the guns to the healthcare debate are not idiots. I'd wager that they were, considering they brought guns to a healthcare debate.
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all it takes is one idiot

A simple retention holster will prevent anyone other than the owner from pulling the gun. Guns also don't randomly discharge every time you bump into something. I can understand some hesitance from people unfamiliar with handling weapons, so you really ought to give handling a weapon a try. Knowledge is power right?
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see this is the problem with gun advocates; they cant see the forrest for the trees. you overlook the painfully obvious: dont bring a gun to a ****ing HEALTHCARE REFORM protest. jesus it's like you guys knowingly sidestep what everyone else can painfully see. if even one of you says "they're excercising their right to guins" I'm going to stab you in the eye. and I say that in the most loving albeit serious way
 
The best thing the news can do is not give these guys any air time. Since when is people following the law news anyway? If they didn't think they'd get on TV, they probably wouldn't have brought them out.

"Mother of 2 drives the speed limit, story and interview at 11."
 
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/25/grassley-constituent-gun/

WWII Veteran says he would take a gun to Washington because Obama is acting like a little Hitler, if enough people would go with him.

“The president of the United States, that’s who you should be concerned about. Because he’s acting like a little Hitler,” said Tom Eisenhower, a World War II veteran. “I’d take a gun to Washington if enough of you would go with me.”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh1A...sley-constituent-gun/&feature=player_embedded
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
WTF is wrong with these people? Doesn't he realise that it would only take someone mentally unstable to take him up on that?
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he's the mentally unstable one we should be worried about. what person in their right mind advocates overthrowing the government over ****ing healthcare reform?. this has gone on too long. If I were Obama I'd put together a group of thugs and malcontents, clad them in brown shirted uniforms and send them to these town meetings and bust some conservative heads. men, the elderly women and children alike; severe beatings. then as the smoke is clearing, I'd stroll in in full SS regalia and tell them they stumbled upon my master plan as I pull out a silver lugar and took aim at each one in turn ....

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keep your damned government hands off of my medicare.
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lol

these people are ****ing beyond stupid. they havent a clue as to what they're talking about
 
oh ffs. now democrats are carrying firearms to anti-healthcare reform protests in answer to all the armed right wingers at these events.

Except for one counterprotester, apparently the only one within shouting distance. The man would only give his first name as he stood alone, wearing a Yankee baseball team shirt, a handgun on his hip, holding a contrary sign.

Josh, who explained he would only give his first name because of the type of work he does, said he was a Democrat among a sea of non-Democrats, touting health care reform, but not reforms over his right to bear arms.

"Part of my passion as a Democrat is the right to bear arms," Josh said
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I found this bit amusing

Someone nearby noticed that Josh had what looked like a picture of Hitler on his sign, which boasted a contrary message to the many signs surrounding it - a construction-paper cacophony of anti-health care reform themes.

Josh's sign simply read: "Teabaggers - Fail."

There were a lot of stats on his board, pasted or taped methodically; some of the pages had sentences that were highlighted. But nearby protesters took issue with a picture on his large board - what they saw as an unfair comparison of their group to Nazis.

"Why do you have a picture of Hitler on your board?" one woman asked from a distance.

"Why are you comparing the TEA Party to Nazis?" asked Johnson, much the armed man's senior, regarding the party that stands for Taxed Enough Already."

"I'm not," Josh replied.

Upon closer examination, the large, illustrated sticker on the board was actually of Obama, rendered graphically in red and blue - wearing a Hitler mustache
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you people are ****ing stupid


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32525040/ns/local_news-phoenix_az/
 
I was in downtown Tacoma a few days ago and there was an Obama-Hitler stand outside a thrift store, bearing an Obama-Hitler-stache poster. I walked 20 paces, turned around, and grabbed a flier. It was a fun read.
 
leib10 said:
Obviously not you. It's easy when you're clueless about the subject.
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as you seem to be about this topic: it's about healthcare reform protests not whether you have the right to carry a gun. so my point still stands: who cares? that doesnt change the fact they brought a gun to a healthcare reform protest
 
Sorry to derail the thread, but I simply couldn't read any further than the bit where you guys posted the link to the videos of the Jewish dude and the woman.

The. Woman. Is. Insane.

First the woman is interviewed and she goes on about how she 'believes is biblical values' and says stuff like 'God bless the illegal aliens.' Then after five minutes she is shouting 'heil Hitler' at the Jewish guy and making these cry-baby gestures at him.

Hesus... ****ing... Christ. I am appalled. That was just disgusting. I can't remember the last time I got so mad over something posted on the internet. The second she did the crying impression I just wanted to bash her face right the **** in. I'm like the most non-violent person ever, but when I saw her pulling off that **** I just snapped. I have no idea whatsoever how the guy managed to stay as calm as he did.

Someone needs to edit those two interviews together with only the bits where she goes on how she's the good guy here and then the bits where she starts shouting at the dude. Hopefully someone has already done it and posted it on youtube or something. Jesus, that woman at least needs to get mocked and laughed at.

Oh yeah, ok, sorry, I feel a bit better now. Carry on!
 
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