ATI R520 only 16 pipelines

My opinion is, ATI got kind of high on themselves with the 9800(last round). Now with the new generation, they failed to bring more to the table(x800), so they had to repick their cards(x850). Now it looks like everything is out in front of them in the latest gen...and...

Nvidia had the upperhand with a headstart on time, thanks to not taking the time to redo their mistakes with the last gen. Now they have their cards out on the table, but ATI is failing to respond.

Now with hints that the ATI cards arent what the hype is, it interests me what they have up their sleeve....

Lets wait and see! :)
 
I thought since ATI has a unified shader system pipelines have to be counted diffrently...
 
Yeh, i would not e surprised at all if Ati's new cards reinvent the way we look at the number of pipelines as a measure of a card- you can rest assured they will be amazing cards, and i dont see why them only having 16 pipelines is a worry.
 
I havn't seen any yes/no on if the R520 has a unified shader model but I know the Xbox360 ATI card does. And if it does then they probably count pipelines differently. I wouldn't claim anything about performance until we see a review.
 
i think overall speed of the card is made up for by its lack of pipelines, i mean 800 mhz? thats pretty damn fast
 
jellydoughnut217 said:
i think overall speed of the card is made up for by its lack of pipelines, i mean 800 mhz? thats pretty damn fast
True although the consern is that it will be another X800pro. High clock speed but not as many pipelines. If so then newer games would probably show it's shortcomings. That's if pipelines on these new cards are counted/function the same.
 
Already a new card?? I wish they would stop and do at least 1 year of research before making a new card. I just bought a X850XT, and it has 16 pipelines. BAH..I'll wait at least 3-4 years before buying a new one.
 
Well they always have a design or two in the works for the future while the current product ships. And if one design does not look ready, promising or competitive when they are getting ready to pick their new cards then they will switch to plan B. That's what Nvidia did with the 7800 (their plan B).
 
I find it funny how the mass mob of people rate things. Years ago, most people had no idea what a pipeline was. These days everyone is throwing the word around like they know exactly how a card works.

Anywhoo don't judge the cards on one thing.

Lol at ones of those Tom's hardware articles. Nvidia keep getting attacked about "Driver cheats" and I for one attack them too. There are no serious image quality benchmarks produced between the rival companies.

I've been with Ati since my Geforce 2. My first and last Nvidia product.
 
ATI/Nvidia fanboy stuff is a load of bs. Just buy the best card you can for your money, whatever the manufacturer. I have owned cards from both companies, and will probably switch between companies in the future, depending on who provides the best card for the money that i have at the time, or who provides the fastest card should i have the money.
 
J_Tweedy said:
Yeh, i would not e surprised at all if Ati's new cards reinvent the way we look at the number of pipelines as a measure of a card- you can rest assured they will be amazing cards, and i dont see why them only having 16 pipelines is a worry.

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ATI fanboy :E


The big deal about the card only having 16 pipelines is that this card was expected to be one to compete with the 7800 GTX as I understand it, and the 7800 has 24 pipelines I believe.
 
The big deal about the card only having 16 pipelines is that this card was expected to be one to compete with the 7800 GTX as I understand it, and the 7800 has 24 pipelines I believe.
But the pipleines may not matter that sthe problem.
I wouldn't use Tweedy's word "reinvent" but yes, ATI if there card has a Unified Shader Model, then pipelines may mean nothing when comparing them.
 
Minerel said:
But the pipleines may not matter that sthe problem.
I wouldn't use Tweedy's word "reinvent" but yes, ATI if there card has a Unified Shader Model, then pipelines may mean nothing when comparing them.

Suddenly pipes mean nothing, and in a way it is true, ATI could bring a competitive 16 pipes product if they can manage to have high yields in the 520 core. What I find funny however, is that most of the people that says that "pipes mean nothing" were the one that were saying sometime ago that "ATI would pwn NVIDIA with their über 32 pipes card"
 
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