Attention All Bible People Please Help!

[colson]

Ok, here's my situation. I'm a person who has never read a bible in my whole entire life and then I hear all these bible quotes in movies and stuff but can never understand what they truly mean because there often written metaphorically and religiously which I have no clue about. Then the other day I get this note that reads:
Proverbs 27:5-6
5 Better is open rebuke than hidden love.
6 Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.

So basically what I'm getting at is what in the hell does this all mean? Any help or translations would be greatly appreciated.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

read the text around it so it fits in context.

I could pull up a random line from the bible that applies to a situation and it might only say "AND HIS FEET BURNED BADLY" or something to that effect- it wont make sense unless you know what its referring to.


Here- go here and go to Proverbs then go to Chapter 27 and read the lines completely surrounding it so its in context

http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/index.htm

Basically:

First: its better to be straight up and perhaps be rejected than to secretly love someone, but never tell them or ask them out.

Second: A friend coming up and say playfully punching you hard is just whatever and not really meant to cause harm, but someone you're not cool with coming up with a smile and a friendly hello is suspicious and should be watched out for their motives.

 

[CyberPitz]

Some crackpot was on acid at the time, and just started going crazy. Yeah, it's not really supposed to make sense..but people who actually believed the bible to be true starting thinking REAL hard how to make it into something about Real Life....and that's what they came up with.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Some crackpot was on acid at the time, and just started going crazy. Yeah, it's not really supposed to make sense..but people who actually believed the bible to be true starting thinking REAL hard how to make it into something about Real Life....and that's what they came up with.

How does it not make sense? May not AGREE with it all etc but it certainly makes SENSE.

 

[CyberPitz]

How does it not make sense? May not AGREE with it all etc but it certainly makes SENSE.

I just can't put the 2 together logically. I can see a coalition, but that's like putting together a fish and a lizard. I can put them together sooner or later and somehow..but damn, it would be confusing.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I just can't put the 2 together logically. I can see a coalition, but that's like putting together a fish and a lizard. I can put them together sooner or later and somehow..but damn, it would be confusing.

It's from the book of proverbs, every line/couple paragraphs is independent from the last- proverbs is basically the bible's equivelant of confucian sayings/wisdom. Each chapter/area tends to run a theme of what you should/shouldnt do.



Proverbs
Chapter 27
1
Boast not of tomorrow, for you know not what any day may bring forth.
2
Let another praise you--not your own mouth; Someone else--not your own lips.
3
Stone is heavy, and sand a burden, but a fool's provocation is heavier than both.
4
Anger is relentless, and wrath overwhelming-- but before jealousy who can stand?
5
Better is an open rebuke than a love that remains hidden.
6
Wounds from a friend may be accepted as well meant, but the greetings of an enemy one prays against.
7
One who is full, tramples on virgin honey; but to the man who is hungry, any bitter thing is sweet.
8
Like a bird that is far from its nest is a man who is far from his home.
9
Perfume and incense gladden the heart, but by grief the soul is torn asunder.
10
Your own friend and your father's friend forsake not; but if ruin befalls you, enter not a kinsman's house. Better is a neighbor near at hand than a brother far away.
11
If you are wise, my son, you will gladden my heart, and I will be able to rebut him who tuants me.
12
The shrewd man perceives evil and hides; simpletons continue on and suffer the penalty.
13
1 Take his garment who becomes surety for another, and for the sake of a stranger, yield it up!
14
2 When one greets his neighbor with a loud voice in the early morning, a curse can be laid to his charge.
15
For a persistent leak on a rainy day the match is a quarrelsome woman.
16
He who keeps her stores up a stormwind; he cannot tell north from south.
17
As iron sharpens iron, so man sharpens his fellow man.
18
He who tends a fig tree eats its fruit, and he who is attentive to his master will be enriched.
19
As one face differs from another, so does one human heart from another.
20
The nether world and the abyss are never satisfied; so too the eyes of men.
21
As the crucible tests silver and the furnace gold, so a man is tested by the praise he receives.
22
Though you should pound the fool to bits with the pestle, amid the grits in a mortar, his folly would not go out of him.
23
3 Take good care of your flocks, give careful attention to your herds;
24
For wealth lasts not forever, nor even a crown from age to age.
25
When the grass is taken away and the aftergrowth appears, and the mountain greens are gathered in,
26
The lambs will provide you with clothing, and the goats will bring the price of a field,
27
And there will be ample goat's milk to supply you, to supply your household, and maintenance for your maidens.


Footnotes
1 [13] See note on Proverb 20:16.

2 [14] The loud voice suggests hypocrisy in the greeting.

3 [23-27] The land of Palestine was very suitable for flocks and herds, which formed the principal source of wealth for their owners.

 

[destrukt]

Yeah, it's not really supposed to make sense..

Yes it is, and a lot of it isn't even close to being esoteric.

but people who actually believed the bible to be true starting thinking REAL hard how to make it into something about Real Life....and that's what they came up with.

The words 'shut the hell up' come to mind.

 

[Naudian]

Heh...sometimes I feel that way CyberPitz.

Then I slap myself in the face.

 

[$kelet0r]

bible != sense

as always code > *

 

[kirovman]

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[Evo]

Ezekiel 25:17.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

 

[Raeven0]

So basically what I'm getting at is what in the hell does this all mean?

The quoted passage isn't metaphorical or religious at all. It's English.

 

[Stingey]

11: Thou shalt not let others do thy homework

 

[Adabiviak]

The bible's great for justifying anything you need. Peace, war, love, hate, building codes, menstrual cycles, - it's all good in there somewhere, and you can totally ignore any contradictions that may be mentioned in other parts of the book. That reference style is an indication that someone has done just this.

Stay away from Deuteronomy if you're with a girl.

 

[CptStern]

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

..nearly spit up my morning coffee

 

[CyberPitz]

Yes it is, and a lot of it isn't even close to being esoteric.


The words 'shut the hell up' come to mind.

so because I'm stating an opinion of mine, I must shut the hell up? Well, aren't you a stereotypical Religious person.

"OH NO THEY ARE CONTRADICTING US! SHUT 'EM UP!"

You people freak out about us, but hell, I've had to stand through my numerous random people trying to force your ideals upon me without me asking, but hell, I've not ONCE told them to shut the hell up. Hmm. I was actually considerate, something you religious nuts have no clue about.

 

[Murray_H]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8463073960287313294&q=penn+and+teller

lol

:burp:

 

[CyberPitz]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8463073960287313294&q=penn+and+teller

lol

:burp:

Damn I love that show.

 

[Murray_H]

Damn I love that show.

I'm addicted to them (lol I should go on a 12-step program...oh wait, they're bullshit!), I watch a couple every night before I go to bed.

 

[Que-Ever]

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

I literally Roffled.

 

[CyberPitz]

I'm addicted to them (lol I should go on a 12-step program...oh wait, they're bullshit!), I watch a couple every night before I go to bed.

I only watch the ones I can find on the net, and that's not many

 

[evil^milk]

Ezekiel 25:17.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

that sounds like something father Grigori would say...

 

[DeusExMachina]

Sam Jackson says it in Pulp Fiction.

I'm wearing the Pulp Fiction shirt with the quote on it right now matter of fact

 

[Evo]

Sam Jackson says it in Pulp Fiction.

I'm wearing the Pulp Fiction shirt with the quote on it right now matter of fact

Already made the post with the quote..no-one picked up on it

:hmph:

 

[CptStern]

that quote must always be preceded by this image:

or at the very least this image

btw I love this thread title ..I've been using it all day

...ahem

"ATTENTION ALL BIBLE PEOPLE! will the owner of the stationwagon with the jesus sticker please move your car it's blocking my parking spot"

"ATTENTION ALL BIBLE PEOPLE! The Rapture is set for Sunday, please bring a boxed lunch and a change of underpants"

"ATTENTION ALL BIBLE PEOPLE! God has instructed me to tell you to swim to the bottom of the ocean and await further instructions ..."



people are starting to look at me weird ..but a few did as they were told

 

[colson]

The quoted passage isn't metaphorical or religious at all. It's English.

Are you retarded? "Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses." So your telling me this sentence literally means that an enemy multiplies kisses? Hmm, sounds a lot like a metaphor to me. Infact this is the definition of a metaphor: something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol. You are right about one thing though, it definately is English.