Australia bans 15+ and M for mature games on internet

Discrate said:
There proposed plan is to have 2 types of filter. 1 for kids and 1 for people that arnt a kid.

the kid one blocks porn and the one for everyone else blocks illegal websites such as child porn and other harmfull websites.
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So the kids can watch child porn?

I'm going to find the fountain of getting young!
 
I think it's important to realise that there are two issues contributing here.

One is our lack of a R18+ classification for Video Games which forces a ban on all games that don't meet the MA15+ standard or lower.

The Second is the Web Filter which pretty much everybody that knows the details is against. It's expensive, slows down an already slow internet, will accidentally block 1 in 12 legitimate sites and is actually very ineffective against inappropriate things like child porn.

This announcement is that in addition to its other targets the filter will try to prevent the downloading of the already banned video games.

While I am very strongly against the web filter and pretty strongly for a R18+ classification for games I find I can't get worked up over this. I think I'll stay pissed at the two foundations that allows this new addition to exist in the first place.

Ravioli said:
Lol funny Australians. Are the people ok with this? Or is it just their government thats wacko? Why is there no ****ing revolts?
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I think the planned web filter is one of the more controversial and stupid things the Government is doing. I really couldn't tell you how the average Australian feels about it now but I don't expect any kind of large public backlash until it's implemented and the many predicted negatives start.

V-Man339 said:
I believe it has already taken effect.
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It hasn't. Last I heard the web filter (which this is just a newly announced part to) was being trailed by some ISPs. The ISPs volunteered for the trial in an attempt to show the Government how unworkable it is.

CptStern said:
is there no constitutional guarentee of free speech in australia or what?
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There is not.
The Australian Constitution does not have any express provision relating to freedom of speech. In theory, therefore, the Commonwealth Parliament may restrict or censor speech through censorship legislation or other laws, as long as they are otherwise within constitutional power. The Constitution consists mainly of provisions relating to the structure of the Commonwealth Parliament, executive government and the federal judicial system. There is no list of personal rights or freedoms which may be enforced in the courts. There are however some provisions relating to personal rights such as the right to trial by jury, and the right to freedom of religion.
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inb4 "norn is an idiot!" storm

EDIT: inb4 thread is over because of Operational's post
 
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The Australian Constitution does not have any express provision relating to freedom of speech. In theory, therefore, the Commonwealth Parliament may restrict or censor speech through censorship legislation or other laws, as long as they are otherwise within constitutional power. The Constitution consists mainly of provisions relating to the structure of the Commonwealth Parliament, executive government and the federal judicial system. There is no list of personal rights or freedoms which may be enforced in the courts. There are however some provisions relating to personal rights such as the right to trial by jury, and the right to freedom of religion.
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You guys are ****ing screwed.

What check is there in place to keep censorship from being abused?
 
But the government elected wont stop free speech because there not complete assholes like you get in some other countries. Also as soon as the government talekd about stopping free speech they would be overthrone instantly by the people.

As i said, this censorship plan will not get through parliament, and even if it does, we can just rally the govenor general and he can instantly get rid of it even though the parliament has let it through.

I also have noticed that half the people replying to this thread have misunderstood the censorship plan or have no idea about it. Everyone just thinks the censorship plan is designed to stop our free speech, it isn't if you actually read up on the censorship plan you will actually see its practical good idea, BUT the way the government are going about putting it in is wrong, and thats why it wont get passed through.

CyberPitz said:
So the kids can watch child porn?

I'm going to find the fountain of getting young!
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No you misunderstood. Both filters are the same except 1 can watch porn (not child porn) and one can't which is for kids.
 
Kevin got rid of the grocery-watch that he promised and blamed it on MJ's death.

tbh I don't have that much faith in your theory, Discrate. :(
 
Danimal said:
Kevin got rid of the grocery-watch that he promised and blamed it on MJ's death.

tbh I don't have that much faith in your theory, Discrate. :(
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I have faith, seriously our government is not like china, if this censorship plan actualyl gets through it aint like the government will instantly turn bad and say FREE SPEECH IS OUT LAWED NOW and start blocking wbesites.

The problems with the plan is that

The government havent specified who will control the ACMA list and who will decide whats good and bad.
1 in 12 good sites will be blocked accidentally
The censorship will slow down our speed a bit, (but thats probs no porblem now as we have a national broadband netowork in the works.)

Theese are the main problems.
People were also worried there porn will be taken from them, but as i said theres 2 type of filters, so your porn is safe, plus some other people complaining about the plan are winging because there illegal child porn is getting taken from them. ****ing assholes
 
I wasn't being 100% srs anyway.

This whole banning video games isn't going to devastate my life, just look at my previous post. :3
 
VirusType2 said:
You guys are ****ing screwed.

What check is there in place to keep censorship from being abused?
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Outside of the Classification Board itself (it's decisions are public).
The Courts, Australian Federal Police, the Senate, the Opposition, the Ombudsman, Anti-Censorship Groups and Media Scrutiny.
 
Sure we don't have the guarantee of free speech but it's pretty much implied. Discrate has it right. The second the government tries to push anything the general populous doesn't like, shit will hit the fan.
 
That's what I used to think about the UK too, until the populace demonstrated a world-beating ability to be passive in the face of bad government. 'She'll be right' might only get you so far.
 
You're not a continent, Australia, you're just a stupid island!
 
Discrate said:
I have faith, seriously our government is not like china, if this censorship plan actualyl gets through it aint like the government will instantly turn bad and say FREE SPEECH IS OUT LAWED NOW and start blocking wbesites.

The problems with the plan is that

The government havent specified who will control the ACMA list and who will decide whats good and bad.
1 in 12 good sites will be blocked accidentally
The censorship will slow down our speed a bit, (but thats probs no porblem now as we have a national broadband netowork in the works.)

Theese are the main problems.
People were also worried there porn will be taken from them, but as i said theres 2 type of filters, so your porn is safe, plus some other people complaining about the plan are winging because there illegal child porn is getting taken from them. ****ing assholes
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Or how about just not having a filter/censorship at all? problem solved.
 
Yeah, because illegal child porn wasn't illegal to begin with.
 
Discrate said:
Yeh but, if the government did try to stop free speech they would be outed so fast.
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Kyorisu said:
Sure we don't have the guarantee of free speech but it's pretty much implied. Discrate has it right. The second the government tries to push anything the general populous doesn't like, shit will hit the fan.
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If that was the case then why is this being allowed to happen?
 
Laivasse said:
That's what I used to think about the UK too, until the populace demonstrated a world-beating ability to be passive in the face of bad government. 'She'll be right' might only get you so far.
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This. Don't count on people getting angry and outing the Government. The UK is a prime example of people pissed off with the Government and not doing anything about it.
 
VirusType2 said:
If that was the case then why is this being allowed to happen?
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Because it is not incurring on free speech, if implemented and it did, there would be protests mega protests and the government would be sacked straight away by the Governor General, thats 1 side to having one, that can sack the government for any reason he wants, if he wakes up one morning and feels like it he can. We don't live in the USA. Our government is actually cares about the people and wouldn't suppress us, and if they did they would be gone straight away.

But as i said it probs wont get put in place because of the reasons i out lined.
 
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