Australia Labor Party Plans Porn Ban

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INTERNET service providers (ISPs) will be forced to block violent and pornographic material before it reaches home computers if Labor wins the next federal election.

Under the policy, announced by Opposition Leader Kim Beazley, international websites would be banned by the Australian Communications and Media Authority if they contained graphic sexual or violent material, rated R or higher.
The bans would be maintained by ISPs.

The policy aims to protect the two-thirds of Australian households where no internet filters are in place because of a lack of technical knowledge or cost.

Mr Beazley said all households would be included in the policy unless there was a specific request for access to such material.

It was "too hard" for many parents to install internet blockers on their computers to prevent offensive material being downloaded, he said.

"The point at which you can do that (effectively ban such material) is with the ISP," Mr Beazley told Southern Cross Radio.

"The ISP provider can cut it off.

"They (websites) can be controlled by Australian law and they (ISPs) can control them at the point at which they enter the country."

Similar systems operated in Sweden and Britain, he said.

In the past, Mr Beazley has called on the federal government to provide free internet blockers to all Australian households.

AAP
 
This reminds me of the "Warning: You are visiting an non-territorial site. You can be monitered by the Office of Internal Services at any given time in accordance with Code DC2.6 of the Information Control law blah blah blah We are watching you." picture.

Don't have any opinion on this, except that this is censorship which may be bad or not.
 
no surprise - it is Australia after all, the No. 1 Censor among democratic nations
Isnt there currently a bill in the US congress that will force all porn sites to be .xxx so if want to block them you can do it instantly
 
This reminds me of the "Warning: You are visiting an non-territorial site. You can be monitered by the Office of Internal Services at any given time in accordance with Code DC2.6 of the Information Control law blah blah blah We are watching you." picture.
Is that reality or metaphor? If thats reality , then you have my sympathy.
 
SAJ said:
Is that reality or metaphor? If thats reality , then you have my sympathy.

The picture was a joke. Some guy that worked for my ISP did that and got fired/was wrote about in newspapers. Poor guy. He made us all have a moment of WTFness and then happiness after realizing it was a joke.
 
The labour party is in turmoil anyway and will never gain power, even moreso after this idiotic plan. I'm not worried at all.

Porn will live on.
 
Like where would people get there pr0n from? Maybe that video of that guy jerking of to WOW will be a common event in the near future in Australia.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Mr Beazley said all households would be included in the policy unless there was a specific request for access to such material.
This actually seems like a pretty good idea to me...
This way, only the person who is paying for the connection can dictate wether or not it can be used for porn
Do you have any idea what kind of effect that will have on minors viewing pornography?
The parents clearly won't request access and now theres nothing the kids can do.

Seems like a good system to me
 
Well, if you can just say '**** you labour commie-lefties - I want what's coming through my monitor to be an unfiltered, uncensored look into the dark heart of the human soul, like staring into the open chernobyl reactor and getting too much radiation' then that's okay.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Well, if you can just say '**** you labour commie-lefties - I want what's coming through my monitor to be an unfiltered, uncensored look into the dark heart of the human soul, like staring into the open chernobyl reactor and getting too much radiation' then that's okay.

Then just a request to your ISP to allow you to do that.
 
john3571000 said:
no surprise - it is Australia after all, the No. 1 Censor among democratic nations
Isnt there currently a bill in the US congress that will force all porn sites to be .xxx so if want to block them you can do it instantly
Nope, didn't work, impossible to do anyway and other lawmakers pointed out itd just double the amount of pornsites because theyd buy the .xxx URLS AND keep their .coms.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Well, if you can just say '**** you labour commie-lefties - I want what's coming through my monitor to be an unfiltered, uncensored look into the dark heart of the human soul, like staring into the open chernobyl reactor and getting too much radiation' then that's okay.


No its not okay, because people are too dumb to be given the choice of whether or not they should have an uncensored look into the dark heart of the human soul. Just like minors who look up porn are.

That being said, Im against this regulation, because its really not about regulating porn, its about controlling the internet. It's the first step towards having a the internet taken away from the hands of the people and given to the hands of the ones in power.
 
>>FrEnZy<< said:
No its not okay, because people are too dumb to be given the choice of whether or not they should have an uncensored look into the dark heart of the human soul. Just like minors who look up porn are.

I think you people are getting ahead of yourselves. Looking at people having sex is not looking into the "dark heart of the human soul". Unless you'd compare porn to genocide. So what if a minor looks at porn? What's it going to do? Turn them into homocidal maniacs? It's just sex for god’s sake, it's life.

I could see where they were coming from if they wanted to ban rape and torture footage, but they're being too generic in saying they want to ban just porn. Most of the rape and torture stuff out there is faked anyway, or could be considered "art" like movies, where do you draw the line between someone saying it's real and someone else saying it was faked or a movie? Eventually you're going to be legislating against freedom of expression on the internet: not good.
 
>>FrEnZy<< said:
No its not okay, because people are too dumb to be given the choice of whether or not they should have an uncensored look into the dark heart of the human soul.
First step towards losing freedoms. People are not too dumb for that choice, they must be allowed to.

I'll never be one to yield that right.
 
mortiz said:
I think you people are getting ahead of yourselves. Looking at people having sex is not looking into the "dark heart of the human soul". Unless you'd compare porn to genocide. So what if a minor looks at porn? What's it going to do? Turn them into homocidal maniacs? It's just sex for god’s sake, it's life.

I could see where they were coming from if they wanted to ban rape and torture footage, but they're being too generic in saying they want to ban just porn. Most of the rape and torture stuff out there is faked anyway, or could be considered "art" like movies, where do you draw the line between someone saying it's real and someone else saying it was faked or a movie? Eventually you're going to be legislating against freedom of expression on the internet: not good.

right... so they'll be watchin porn by 10, and suckin' and fukin' by 12.
 
Every party here has tried that at one point or another.

Two problems with their plan:

1) Its impossible to do what they plan. The only countries that try are places like china and iran, and its easily circumvented.

2) If they do it, I will personally take a hammer to whatever or whoever is causing my internet to be censored.

EDIT: Its just sex anyway. Better than violence, which seems to be ok here.

>>FrEnZy<< said:
right... so they'll be watchin porn by 10, and suckin' and fukin' by 12.

Explain why violent movies/tv don't have this effect on 10/12 year olds.
 
Originally Posted by >>FrEnZy<<
right... so they'll be watchin porn by 10, and suckin' and fukin' by 12.

Explain why violent movies/tv don't have this effect on 10/12 year olds.
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Exactly. Even though I boosted my brothers tape I found in his room and was watching it at 10 years old, that didn't mean that I'm all the sudden out there getting some action and getting girls pregnant.

I was still shy, still an innocent kid. For the most part these XXX movies are shockingly raunchy for a child, and I wouldn't be surprised if they would rather just see girls in swimsuits, so I don't even see porn as a big problem. It's mostly adults checking out hardcore porn.

Besides, it's sex education as far as I'm concerned. You can't expect kid's parents to go that in depth in explaining everything. At least in the beginning of the movie they have a warning recommending use of a condom and practicing abstinence. (well, at least the full length movies have this warning)
 
john3571000 said:
no surprise - it is Australia after all, the No. 1 Censor among democratic nations
Isnt there currently a bill in the US congress that will force all porn sites to be .xxx so if want to block them you can do it instantly
Que? Are you kidding? We're the ones with "bloody" (apparently a swear word) in our current tourism campaign. Everyone else was kicking up the shits about it, not us.
 
Sparta said:
Que? Are you kidding? We're the ones with "bloody" (apparently a swear word) in our current tourism campaign. Everyone else was kicking up the shits about it, not us.

we did censor duke nukem3d though... and gta3...

and we renamed the sega/snes "Zombies ate my neighbours" game to "Zombies"
 
It seems everyone suddenly forgets that when they themselves were kids, they'd go to whatever sneaky means they could to find porn.

Borrowing a playboy from a friend who stole it from his dad, sneaking at night to the living room to watch late night skinemax, or just plain old using the internet. Everyone has done it. I don't see why if you did it when younger you have to suddenly rightously prevent the next generation from seeing it.
 
K e r b e r o s said:
Lawl. Least this is not in my country! :D
Yea, I'm thinking the same thing!

I can't believe "Zombies Ate My Neighbors" is a bit to risqué for Australians. Had to change the name of the game to "Zombies" :p are kids going to go eat their neighbors if they play this game? :rolleyes:
 
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