Bad bad habits

[Sebastian]

Why would you try to abstain from masterbating?

I think another masterbation thread is well overdew.

Excuse the spelling.

Because I'm a catholic and it is considered a mortal sin. I'm not a religious nut, but I do what I can to try to make it to heaven. Also trying to master your desires instead of letting them master you is something worth striving for.
EDIT: another bad habit is when I wash a shit load of clothes I'm too lazy to hang them up, and they ususally end up being trampled into the floor.

 

[Slacker]

Because I'm a catholic and it is considered a mortal sin.

I'm catholic too, and you're wrong.

 

[Solaris]

Because I'm a catholic and it is considered a mortal sin. I'm not a religious nut, but I do what I can to try to make it to heaven. Also trying to master your desires instead of letting them master you is something worth striving for.
EDIT: another bad habit is when I wash a shit load of clothes I'm too lazy to hang them up, and they ususally end up being trampled into the floor.

What? Jacking off, is fun, it feels great, and it hurts no-one... Why not?

 

[Slacker]

Also...

I:
-look at porn when I'm trying to abstain from wacking off

That makes no sense.

 

[Sebastian]

I'm catholic too, and you're wrong.

By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, or other psychological or social factors that lessen or even extenuate moral culpability.

See paragraph 2352 of the Catechism

 

[Evo]

I'm catholic too, and you're wrong.

Quoted for Religious Truth!

Masturbating is just aganist the rules set down in one of the Vatican's book of laws..or some such crap

 

[Vegeta897]

That makes no sense.

What doesn't make sense about it? When he's trying to not masturbate, he can't help but look at porn anyway.

Anyway, I do some small things, they usually don't make me look like a freak in public or anything, thankfully.

I only look at porn if im gonna have a good, long 'nobody is in the house' wank.

Bwahaha Those are indeed good.

 

[Que-Ever]

-look at porn when I'm trying to abstain from wacking off

:O

Well, what the hell kind of porn are you looking at, then?!

 

[Slacker]

What doesn't make sense about it? When he's trying to not masturbate, he can't help but look at porn anyway.

Looking at porn makes me WANT to masturbate really badly. So doing it to abstain wangsterbation is odd. Especially since he finds pleasuring himself a one-way ticket to hell, but looking at porn is fine.

 

[Sebastian]

:O

Well, what the hell kind of porn are you looking at, then?!

Usually the stuff on spikedhumor.com, which is mostly titties. I will be looking through the videos and see something that catches my eye. I'll click on it, watch it for a couple of minutes, then be like "why the hell am I watching this."

Edit:

Quoted for Religious Truth!

Masturbating is just aganist the rules set down in one of the Vatican's book of laws..or some such crap

What do you think being a catholic means? If you don't put your faith in what the Vatican says, then go and start doing religion your own way.

 

[Slacker]

What do you think being a catholic means? If you don't put your faith in what the Vatican says, then go and start doing religion your own way.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Wait, are...are you actually being serious?

 

[Sebastian]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Wait, are...are you actually being serious?

Yes, I'm being serious; what is the point of belonging to a religion if you don't believe what that religion teaches. Isn't that an absolute waste of time?

 

[Solaris]

Does losing alot of respect for someone when they tell me they follow a mainstream religion make me a bad person?

 

[Slacker]

Yes, I'm being serious; what is the point of belonging to a religion if you don't believe what that religion teaches. Isn't that an absolute waste of time?

Because, saying that Masturbation is a mortal sin that will land you in hell is ridiculous, not to mention it comes from one of the oldest documents ever that I'm sure most modern catholics (including the ones I know) don't follow. Not to mention, by that psychology, looking at porn is just as bad, so you're saying a total double-standard.

 

[Sebastian]

Because, saying that Masturbation is a mortal sin that will land you in hell is ridiculous, not to mention it comes from one of the oldest documents ever that I'm sure most modern catholics (including the ones I know) don't follow. Not to mention, by that psychology, looking at porn is just as bad, so you're saying a total double-standard.

I'm not saying that everyone who chokes the chicken will burn in an eternal inferno, it all depends on circumstances. Even the church teaches that. But I believe in my heart that the church is right in teaching that masturbation is a grave disorder. when I commit this act, it is with full concent of my will and full knowledge that it is a grave evil. So it is a mortal sin to me.

1854 Sins are rightly evaluated according to their gravity. The distinction between mortal and venial sin, already evident in Scripture,129 became part of the tradition of the Church. It is corroborated by human experience.

1855 Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law; it turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him.

Venial sin allows charity to subsist, even though it offends and wounds it.

1856 Mortal sin, by attacking the vital principle within us - that is, charity - necessitates a new initiative of God's mercy and a conversion of heart which is normally accomplished within the setting of the sacrament of reconciliation:

When the will sets itself upon something that is of its nature incompatible with the charity that orients man toward his ultimate end, then the sin is mortal by its very object . . . whether it contradicts the love of God, such as blasphemy or perjury, or the love of neighbor, such as homicide or adultery. . . . But when the sinner's will is set upon something that of its nature involves a disorder, but is not opposed to the love of God and neighbor, such as thoughtless chatter or immoderate laughter and the like, such sins are venial.130

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."131

1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: "Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother."132 The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.

1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God's law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart133 do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.

1860 Unintentional ignorance can diminish or even remove the imputability of a grave offense. But no one is deemed to be ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are written in the conscience of every man. The promptings of feelings and passions can also diminish the voluntary and free character of the offense, as can external pressures or pathological disorders. Sin committed through malice, by deliberate choice of evil, is the gravest.

1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.

1862 One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law, or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or without complete consent.

1863 Venial sin weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul's progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial sin disposes us little by little to commit mortal sin. However venial sin does not break the covenant with God. With God's grace it is humanly reparable. "Venial sin does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently eternal happiness."134

While he is in the flesh, man cannot help but have at least some light sins. But do not despise these sins which we call "light": if you take them for light when you weigh them, tremble when you count them. A number of light objects makes a great mass; a number of drops fills a river; a number of grains makes a heap. What then is our hope? Above all, confession.135

1864 "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."136 There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit.137 Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.

Paragraph 1859 is pretty much what I'm getting at.

 

[Slacker]

I'm not saying that everyone who chokes the chicken will burn in an eternal inferno, it all depends on circumstances. Even the church teaches that. But I believe in my heart that the church is right in teaching that masturbation is a grave disorder. when I commit this act, it is with full concent of my will and full knowledge that it is a grave evil. So it is a mortal sin to me.

Paragraph 1859 is pretty much what I'm getting at.

Did...you just quote an entire document to point out one paragraph? And you still haven't adressed why looking at porn to abstain it is ANY better.

 

[Sebastian]

Did...you just quote an entire document to point out one paragraph? And you still haven't adressed why looking at porn to abstain it is ANY better.

I quoted those passages because they shine light on what the catholic church teaches on sin. And I never said I looked at porn to abstain. I look at porn because I sometimes see it on spikedhumor.com and click on it for no good reason. Call it curiosity. I know it doesn't help me abstain, but I do it anyway, and that is the reason why it is a bad habit to me.

 

[Vegeta897]

Looking at porn makes me WANT to masturbate really badly. So doing it to abstain wangsterbation is odd. Especially since he finds pleasuring himself a one-way ticket to hell, but looking at porn is fine.

OK, clearly you aren't understanding
He is trying to not look at porn, and abstain, but he CAN'T HELP IT. This is why he posted it in the BAD HABIT forum. As he explained.

Anyway. Enough of your argument yammering!

 

[Slacker]

I:

-look at porn when I'm trying to abstain from wacking off

HE SAID THAT.

He can claim he meant something different, but he said that.

 

[Sebastian]

HE SAID THAT.

He can claim he meant something different, but he said that.

Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[Sai]

Bite my nails, crack my knuckles, chew my lip, chew my cheeks.

Gah.

Except for the chewing on the cheeks part, we're twins! :thumbs:

 

[Slacker]

Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

If you wern't a walking double-standard, then I wouldn't have to.

 

[Sebastian]

If you wern't a walking double-standard, then I wouldn't have to.

Maybe I'm a bit of a hypocrit, but let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I may not be perfect, but I try the best I can to do what I think is right. Sure I trip along the way, but every time I pick myself back up I feel a bit stronger and a bit wiser than I did before.

 

[Evo]

Woah going way off-topic here!

What do you think being a catholic means? If you don't put your faith in what the Vatican says, then go and start doing religion your own way.

Because the Vatican teaches out of date bullshi!t in my view. I may be Catholic and Confirmed and i will have my Children baptised because i feel that at a youn age giving a child a religious perspective is important to teach them about morals etc. Any nowadays i have a broader outlook and my personal view is that the Catholic faith is badly outdated and pisses me off!

Another bad habit: Getting involved in religious debates where i criticise my own religion D:

 

[The Brick]

Let's get this thread back to habits, alright?

I always check what time it is at 22:22, and when I do I always check a digital clock somehow. It's freaking me out sometimes. When I'm watching a movie I randomly want to know what time it is, I look down on the dvd player or whatever and it says 22:22. Or the clock on my taskbar. I NEVER look at that one, except when it's 22:22.

I also crack my knuckles before I start to type a new post here.

I also regularly tap on the speaker in my subwoofer to hear the tone of the resonance frequency (33hz on this one).

I also do this alot: I read everything I wanted to read here on hl2.net, I close the window and I immediately move my mouse to the firefox icon and open a new browser, click on my hl2.net bookmark and check my usercp. That can happen like 4 times in a row.

 

[Evo]

I just hit F5 after i post looking for a reply D:

 

[dfc05]

I used to chew on my cheeks a lot but I've stopped doing that. In class, sometimes I'd bite on my cheeks or my tongue without knowing and just sit there with my teeth clamped down on it, and then I'd go to lunch and it would hurt to eat.

If I have something on or around my hands I have to be folding it or something. Rubber bands or anything circular, I'll keep stretching them or twirling them around. If it's paper, I'll fold it, especially if I'm holding a piece of paper in my hand while walking. I'll fold the paper perfectly in half (line up the edges and corners carefully) and in half again and keep folding. Then I'll unfold it and fold it up again.

 

[evil^milk]

I tend to slouch a lot when i sit and post on forums or do anything other than work.

 

[Zeus]

Getting on "kicks" for something...where I am all gung-ho about it, find/buy the thing, and only use it for a little bit before getting bored with it. Also constantly I mean constantly spitting when I'm outside. I get dehydrated quick but I just can't stop doing it.

Does losing alot of respect for someone when they tell me they follow a mainstream religion make me a bad person?

Yes, it's just a very shallow thing to do

 

[Geogaddi]

Ctrl + W

 

[The Brick]

Ctrl + W

Shit :E

 

[Jangle]

Ctrl + W

Grrr.

Reminds me of when I was a noob at counter-strike and people told me F10 was godmode or something.

 

[tehsolace]

Ctrl + W

damn it... i suspected it would do that and i even checked under the File menu to make sure Exit didn't have a (Ctrl+W) shortcut key next to it...

 

[Beerdude26]

Nailbiting, knucklecracking, being such a damn geek in general

 

[Ennui]

i get jealous of other people's business cards and go into murderous rages and kill them because of it

 

[Slacker]

i get jealous of other people's business cards and go into murderous rages and kill them because of it

I think we all have that problem, ennui.

 

[Que-Ever]

Ctrl + W

aw, you asshole D:

 

[Cole]

Sometimes I get bored and I accidently reach down into my pants...
and well I think you all know what i'm talking about.




I PULL OUT A GUN AND SHOOT EVERYONE AROUND.
Then I get it on.