"Ban these evil games"

[Kangy]

As seen in the Doom 3 warez thread, newspapers are once again demanding that "evil" games should be banned, despite ignoring the fact that the person who commited the crime of murder, in homage to Manhunt, was under the legal sale age of the game (18) in the first place.

This is not down to the game, at the end of the day, this is the fault of irresponsible shop management and poor parenting. The game is an 18 for a reason, and if the shop he bought it on didn't require an ID check, then surely, they're partly to blame? This is also the fault of the parents. Why weren't they taking enough of an active part in this kid's life, so that they knew what he was playing, or if the shop he got it from did give him an ID check, why did they buy it for him? What about his school or colleagues? Surely they should have noticed signs of an obsessed pyschopath at some point.

I'm not doubting Manhunt's morally dubious content, I'm saying that the game was never meant for him, and that society is the real evil.

Discuss/agree/hate.

 

[PvtRyan]

Not to mention the guy was supposedly murdered for a drug debt.... yeah, it must have been the game that made him do this.

 

[Gajdycz]

thank god in 20 years, a lot of young senators and goveners will be like

" OMFG DOOM10 IS T3H L33T, ILL MAKE IT LEGAL AGAIN JUST LIEK DER WEEd!"

 

[Feath]

Not to mention the guy was supposedly murdered for a drug debt.... yeah, it must have been the game that made him do this.

What? It's a 17 year old kid killing a 14 year old kid. I don't think drug debts had anything to do with it.

But the 17 year old was trying to rob the young lad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3936237.stm

 

[jonbob]

Bad games don't make me want to kill people. But hypocritical old mothers with nothing better to do with their time but winge about something they have no idea about certainly do.

Maybe if they asked their kids they would realise that (unless they're very, very naive and/or stupid) violent games don't make you want to kill anyone. Then again, if these games didn't get into the hands of underage users in the first place there might not be such a problem. I should hope that an 18 year old person was fully aware of the difference between games and reality.

If they ban violent games, I am going to be royally pissed off, as it stands they're one of the few legal and safe outlets for agression that I have, short of running around the streets naked, amok and with the intent to break as many peoples' noses as possible before being apprehended by the pigs.

 

[<RJMC>]

is tru that
I hav see kids like 8 years old playing GTA and they dont do what they see in GTA

 

[nw909]

is tru that
I hav see kids like 8 years old playing GTA and they dont do what they see in GTA

Some damn 8 year olds shot up my brother in a car driveby

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Evil is subjective. I have no problem with pentagrams, demons and mutilated corpses pulsing on stakes. Stupid old mothers do.

Either way humans should always have a choice in what they want to do. Plus who cares if it's banned, the internet gives us the ability to circumvent these ludicrous laws.

 

[<RJMC>]

Doom3 hav really diabolic signs or that signs were customs created by the developers?
cuz if are designed by the developers are not really diabolics,are just some cool sign

 

[Estevan]

you mean satanic? The star of david is close to looking like a satanic symbol, why dont they do anything about that

 

[Sparta]

No not really, the pentagram isn't even a Satanic symbol. The Church said it was in the 3rd century to get people to turn to Christianity instead of Pagan religions

 

[bliink]

Plus who cares if it's banned, the internet gives us the ability to circumvent these ludicrous laws.

which is exactly why banning software won't work... unless the put controls on the internet somehow...

hey, dont you americans have a freedom of speech?

 

[CyberSh33p]

Some damn 8 year olds shot up my brother in a car driveby

I lol'ed, my good sir.

 

[Bling]

i had to write a paper (over 15 pages) on violence and video games for highschool. I read every book / article / tid bit i could on video games causing violence, and i found that the media is blowing things out of proportion.

Every study conducted on the matter has proven the theory (violence) to be false, yet the media is like :

"OMG, teh video games m4ke you a killer! Ohem gee! NBC, tonight!"

If anyone is to blame its the rating system not being upheld, and or the lack of parenting.

 

[Chris D]

The guy that killed in homage of Manhunt lived in my city.

Let's have a poll - out of us 15,000 gamers, hands up who murders people, inspired by computer games.

/tumbleweed

 

[Bling]

The guy that killed in homage of Manhunt lived in my city.

Let's have a poll - out of us 15,000 gamers, hands up who murders people, inspired by computer games.

/tumbleweed

*puts up hand*

*..***ns away with an evil look in his eye*

The media honestly is blaming games because they are an easy target.

just like when they blamed Maryln Manson because of his music. The guy looks like a freak so he is an easy target and is an easy figuare head for evilness. (boo!)

After watching Lord Of The Rings, do you want to go climb a mountain to throw a ring in the lava?

I rest my case.

 

[Black-Falcon]

I've always thought the 18+ rating was only a suggestion. Like that of a movie. A rated R movie IS NOT LAW, it a suggestion that most corprate theaters follow (which is good mind you). Im not against the 18+ rating at all, hell im 17. But I can go to my local GameStop or EB Games and say I want that one and it clearly says Rated M for mature. And they could give two shits about my age. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ thats all they care about.

EDIT: I take that back, it says 17+ on M games. But still, my point stands, all they care about money.

And like said before, honestly how many fukkin people that have played gory games gone out and killed people, i mean you have to have severe depression, or a severly flawwed view of reality and non-reality. And on another note, it is really sad how mothers are now using Lan centeres as a form of cheap child care. This is just wrong and I personally thin they should have a "get the hell out of my store time" for kids under a certain age to let the older kiddies have their fun. This is just horrible parenting and just not cool...atleast imo.

 

[Kangy]

More importantly, did you form a last alliance of elves and men?

 

[Raxxman]

The entire procescutions(Spelling?) case was built around the murder happening during the robbery. The incentive of the robbery was to fuel a drug habit.

From what I've read the people who make the link from game to killers are the parents, not the lawyers.

Now I can understand their grievence, no parent should ever have to bury their child. But the problem is they're looking for something that really isn't there.

Note, the classification body is against such a move.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3466525.stm

the other side of the coin.

 

[InsaneCow]

No not really, the pentagram isn't even a Satanic symbol. The Church said it was in the 3rd century to get people to turn to Christianity instead of Pagan religions

Its actually an inverted (upside down) pentagram that is a satanic symbol. The right-way-up Pentagram being satanic is just something that Hollywood/Little Goth retards trying to be cool have said over the last few decades or so.