Barney was going to be a villan

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I just recently watched some half-life 1 beta vids and in one of them barney strangles a scientit and feeds him to a panther eye (beta creature) and in another vid gordon shoots and kill him.

what do you think?


ps: I'll try to find the vids
 
I think he was just a lone, slightly deranged scientist in the midst of the Black Mesa Incident. Not the specific Barney Calhoun. :p
 
Originally everyone--including other scientists--were intended to be your enemies. This was going to be a game where everyone was hostile toward you.

Barney's role was changed when Valve was running some tests, having Barney consider you an ally to check the game's squad AI. It was so fun that Barney was made into an actual ally and the game's design started to change.
 
Yeah, Barney was actually to be a enemy but testers grew fond of this "friendliness" and changed his role to be an ally.
 
Barneys were originally "MP's", or military police, meaning, they were working alongside the military's invasion of Black Mesa, also therefore meaning they were supposed to be bad guys.

This would be an example of them working together:
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I'm so glad that Valve did that mid-development scrap of theres. The original version of HL1 looked like crap.
 
Apocalypse89 said:
I'm so glad that Valve did that mid-development scrap of theres. The original version of HL1 looked like crap.
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I hate it when people say that. Don't forget "HL2 was better in RtB". Don't make assuptins unless you played it. They should have left the Chumtoad in (apart from those two cameos in BS) becuase its not right he should be left out D:
HES SO CUTE!
 
I remember on the back of the box a scene showing a soldier lifting up a scientist by his collar in what was supposed to be an interrogation scene. Stuff like that would have been cool.
 
Wonder why they completely removed the view-bobbing...it looked neat, they could have at least included an option for it :\
 
beatup.jpg


"You will talk!"

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"Sir, please drop your weapons and come with me for questioning."
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XL8RaSJml94

Video showing you fighting helicopters and other stuff. LOL the music really surked back then. Also... climbing animations?

I'd really like to get my hands on the old Half-Life beta material. Would be great to see what changed.
 
Absinthe, you have nearly 7,000 posts, you should know better than to double post...
 
Rumours and Speculation. Pointless forum with no rules.
(Edit, and nobody be a smart ass.)

So I was going to download. Then you know, Fileplanet.
 
Everyone let's break the rules that don't exist here(double posting and stuff)
:laugh: :laugh: :E :E
 
Me neither, it must be my NMA Special Conditioning...
 
For sure...
I think you're a bit off-topic or is just me?
 
That's the first time I've seen a panthereye in action. Nice! I'm surprised that they scrapped it - the houndeyes never did that.
 
The original HL design got scrapped because it was rubbish. It's easy to be armchair developers and say "that might have been cool" but the way Valve work, they playtest stuff over and over again, so they know if something is good or not, as objectively as possible.

Anyways, the most interesting thing about Barney's transition from enemy to ally is it made Valve think about having a character who was neither ally nor enemy. Hence the G-Man.
 
Atomic Piggy, I love your nick. You need a suitable avatar, like, ms Piggy over a mushroom cloud...
 
Mikael Grizzly said:
Atomic Piggy, I love your nick. You need a suitable avatar, like, ms Piggy over a mushroom cloud...
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I know. I've always wanted a pig wih small, almost devil-like wings, flying over a orange cloud of sub-atomic death. My friend was gonna make one but he's really busy right now :(
 
I wonder if we pester Valve enough they'll put the BETA material up for download on Steam or something...........MUST PESTER..........NEED HL1 BETA

Has anybody seen HL2 beta material? I can't believe they even considered calling Ravenholm "TrapTown" in the first place! And putting Combine soldiers there takes the scare away of Ravenholm. Though I am annoyed they took away some of the weapons, like the sniper SMG thingy, it was kinda similar to OICW in Ghost Recon 1, they should not have gotten rid of it. Evil Valve.....screw playtesting I know a good weapon when I see one. Maybe if I pester them some more they'll give me BETA material for HL2 and Episode one and maybe even Episode 2 (I'll hope to the high heavens that I do)
 
Mesz said:
I wonder if we pester Valve enough they'll put the BETA material up for download on Steam or something...........MUST PESTER..........NEED HL1 BETA

Has anybody seen HL2 beta material? I can't believe they even considered calling Ravenholm "TrapTown" in the first place! And putting Combine soldiers there takes the scare away of Ravenholm. Though I am annoyed they took away some of the weapons, like the sniper SMG thingy, it was kinda similar to OICW in Ghost Recon 1, they should not have gotten rid of it. Evil Valve.....screw playtesting I know a good weapon when I see one. Maybe if I pester them some more they'll give me BETA material for HL2 and Episode one and maybe even Episode 2 (I'll hope to the high heavens that I do)
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You clearly haven't played Missing Information. Its a mod recreating HL2 like it was before; its currunetly in "Beta stage" you might say, as only the Borealeas and small tibits of gameplay from E3 are avalible.
 
Like Atomic Piggy said, you can download Missing Info mod. Contains a mixture of cut content and original ideas from the mod developers.
 
Yeah well, once I get a new PC with a better motherboard then I can get some more up to date Valve games for my PC.....which is next year as I'm going to Australia which shall be very cool
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
You clearly haven't played Missing Information. Its a mod recreating HL2 like it was before; its currunetly in "Beta stage" you might say, as only the Borealeas and small tibits of gameplay from E3 are avalible.
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How ironic, a mod recreating the beta stage of a game, released in a beta stage...
 
I guess it is kinda ironic, probably looks crap in BETA BETA stage
 
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