Bay: "I need to do something without explosions."

[Eejit]

Or Uwe Boll...

 

[gFrohman]

I disagree. I think what makes a really good director is a director who can change genres without affecting the quality of their work. If you can direct action well and go on to directing drama well, you're pretty good at what you do. I think it's natural for directors, actors and musicians to seek out other genre's or forms they want to explore, as I don't believe creativity should be about doing what you do best but rather doing what you want to do.

This.

It's easy for someone to take the easy/safe way with film/directing/art/music/etc.; it's when these people are creative and step outside their comfort zones effectively is when they wow people (and they improve themselves), IMO.

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

In the posts after mine, you never pointed out he was directing Transformers 3.

Wrong, RE-READ the thread.

The only thing you've actually been able to point out successfully here is that you did indeed say that many people enjoy Michael Bay films and this is a fact. That's true, i'll give you that, but thats about it. Everything else was already pointed out by other people in the thread (namely me or the OP) and again, bringing up Obama does dick all to prove Bay's worth as a director other than sharing Obama's opinion on him.

Then how come I was told that I didn't have any facts? Just mindless opinion? I guess things do indeed change.

And again, What I think and what you think is subjective, so if I say Michael Bay can't make good action films and you say he can, it doesn't make you more right than me.

I agree, when I say I what I believe what is right in movies, I will feel drama's as mediocrity. The same can be said about you in that you'd perfer the drama's of the world, and not so much the action portion.

Firstly, Everyone here already knows Michael Bay movies are watched by millions. You didnt "bring the fact" because everyone knew about it already. Secondly, we have already established that an action director must work hard at his job, so again, you're too little too late with that fact. And your third link has both been known since several posts before yours, and has nothing to do at all with your post that I was responding to.




Really? You didn't say that in your other post, now did you?

You sir, are a moron.

Also, you didnt bring facts to shit. Everything you just said there was a generalization, assumption, or opinion.

How very fickle we are.

I really, really hope English isn't your primary language. Because this sentence is just the worst thing I have read in months.

 

[CptStern]

you can certainly enjoy michael bay's movies, you can certainly think that they're great movies. You can certainly think that Bay is better than Wells, Scorsese, Almodovar, or Kurosawa HOWEVER, dont try to push that on anyone else because in no way shape or form is Michael Bay a good director. not even for popcorn movies. he's a ham fisted hack who doesnt have a clue what makes a good action picture good.

 

[jverne]

@Bacons

you have a transformer as your avatar...why do i bother acknowledging you?

hmm...maybe because i want you to stop pretending you have legitimacy on criticizing movies. you think transformers is good?!. just leave please and stop humiliating yourself.
you're the equivalent of some guy walking into a concerto saying that 50cent is the best musician ever.
even if you don't like classic music you must admit that it takes skill, time and devotion to do it. 50 cent on the other hand is stinky dog shit as far as musical skill and composition is concerned.

 

[Darkside55]

you're the equivalent of some guy walking into a concerto saying that 50cent is the best musician ever.

50 cent on the other hand is stinky dog shit as far as musical skill and composition is concerned.

I'll whip ya head boy, you know I will
I'll whip ya head boy, with the back of the steel

 

[PoeticRocker]

Well I personally cant understand how so many enjoy Michael Bay films, yet everyone has their own taste in the type of movies they enjoy. There's only been two of his movies that I somewhat enjoyed and they were The Island and The Rock. Even then those movies are not very memorable in my book because his stories always seem to become convoluted with overly-long vague action sequences. Its mostly the way he chooses to film the action scenes that puts me off, like the shakey camera effect and the short cuts. His technique always seem pretentious, like it looks cool yet at the same time you have no idea whats happening. I remember watching Bad Boys 2, and it was at a certain point that I began to get so bored of the action scenes that I began to count the time lapse between each cut. I would estimate it was under 3 seconds or lower each cut would take place. Thats like a strobe light blinking in my face. So really to me what I get out of bay films is vague action sequences that purposely distract you from the story and characters. And since I cant comprehend the action scenes the majority of the time, its essentially an empty movie to me. Though I'm usually not much into action movies, I still have enjoyed recent films like Transporter 2 and Shoot Em Up to name a few. But what set these movies apart from Bay films is they had decent scripts and storytelling that kept my interest, while also entertaining me with over the top action scenes that I could understand.

Really the only explanation I can have for kids that enjoy Bay films is that their generation seems to be used to these new extreme visual methods. For instance, if you look at video games on console today, theyre alot more complicated visually than before. Just look at Mario Galaxy, I couldnt comprehend it completely like I could with Super Mario Bros. on nintendo, so I lost the interest to keep playing it.

 

[barbarbarbarbar]

He does not need to do anything as far as i care

 

[dcxs]

Ye he can stop directing for all I care!
btw Michael Jackson just died, parents all over the world can relax now.

 

[MorganFreeman911]

Trailer released of Michael Bay movie without explosions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGWZxI9lAs

****ing hilarious.

 

[tesher06]

The movie of him eating cereal 10/10... epic

 

[Sparta]

Wrong, RE-READ the thread.

I was responding to your posts after mine, and jumped into the thread to respond to an earlier post, so I missed a few pages. So if that is the case, fine, I missed one of your posts that stated that. When I replied to you I was replying to your post's that followed mine.

Then how come I was told that I didn't have any facts? Just mindless opinion? I guess things do indeed change.

Oh wow, you got me. I will acknowledge that Obama's opinion clearly qualifies Michael Bay as a good director. That was the original point I argued when you brought up Obama's opinion and now you're simply stringing together any possible thing you can to prove that something you've said has been right. You've already lost this debate and now you're just being semantic to save yourself from looking like the fool. Again one man's opinion does not validate someone's skill/craft, as that opinion alone means absolute dick. Regardless of the man.

I agree, when I say I what I believe what is right in movies, I will feel drama's as mediocrity. The same can be said about you in that you'd perfer the drama's of the world, and not so much the action portion.

I'm glad we agree on something then.

 

[Eejit]

I agree, when I say I what I believe what is right in movies, I will feel drama's as mediocrity. The same can be said about you in that you'd perfer the drama's of the world, and not so much the action portion.

Just because we don't like Michael Bay films doesn't mean we don't all like the action genre. It's simply that Michael Bay makes shitty action films.

 

[Sheepo]

Bay's called it quits on the Transformers franchise twice before, so I don't know if he actually means to leave the series altogether or if he's just taking a break to do something non-explodey.

Someone better come back to do that third film though, because I need to see Unicron realized in the live action continuity.

This. I'm being cautiously optimistic that the next Transformers could be awesome and good.