beats by dre (Headphones)

Here's what appears to be a fairly unbiased review.

Definately not worth $350.

HeadFi said:
I'll post more about it in a new thread at some point, but here are some points about the headphone (my opinions, based on the pre-production unit I have):

* I expected The Beats to be very bass-heavy, based on the initial CES-time press releases and the association with Dre.
o This is very much not the case. They do seem to have deep bass extension, but the designers have been far more even-handed with its curve than I think anyone would guess based, again, on how they're described in releases and the design association with an extremely famous rapper.
o I think most will find the tonal balance very audiophile-friendly, with what I find to be mild, acceptable bass lift.

* It's actually a pretty articulate headphone for a closed, noise-canceling-circuit-always-on (more on this shortly) headphone. As far as active noise-canceling headphones go, it is, in my opinion, quite good, and competitive, sound-quality-wise, with any other noise-canceling headphone I have (and even ones I don't have but have used), including the Sennheiser PXC 450.

* Though I did have some flights this past weekend, I knew I'd be engaged in conversations for most of the flights, so didn't bring The Beats with me. I haven't yet used The Beats on a plane or train, so I can't comment on how effective the noise-cancellation circuitry is in comparison to others in those environments. From what I can tell using it at home and at work, and even taking it into some of the nearby noisier places (my office is in an industrial park), the noise-cancellation seems to be quite effective; however, it's relatively low level of passive isolation may render it not as effective overall as something like a PXC-450 in louder environs (again, I haven't yet used The Beats in a train or plane, so I'm making some educated guesses here).
o Again, The Beats do not passively isolate as effectively as most of my other closed full-size headphones. On the one hand, this doesn't matter too much, as The Beats can't be used passively (more on this shortly). I'm guessing that as a component of its acoustic tuning, very little batting was used in the earpieces. The flipside negative to all of this is that The Beats are quite audible to those around you if you play it even mildly loud.

* My understanding of the digital amplifier bit that I'm seeing mentioned is that it's in reference only to the active noise-canceling circuit (if I'm wrong, I'll let you know), which does have to output the noise-canceling signal across whatever the frequency range of the cancellation circuitry is.

* For the noise-canceling, there are two microphones, one inside each earpiece (which is good, as I have a set of noise-canceling headphones with the canceling circuit microphone openings on the outside of the earcups, making for some negative effects in wind, and even when walking). Wind doesn't cause any noise-canceling artifacts or pumping noises with The Beats, and, in fact, it's quite good at attenuating it.

* The single biggest negative sonic point of The Beats is the always-on noise-canceling circuitry. You can not listen to music through The Beats without it. I can't think of an active noise-canceling headphone I've used that could be used passively that didn't sound better in passive mode--but, again, The Beats has no passive mode.
o This will not appeal to the purists among us <raises hand>, who tend to pay bucks to keep as much out of the signal path as possible.
o I haven't used an active noise-canceling circuit that didn't have self-noise, and The Beats hasn't broken that streak. Though it's a relatively low level of self-noise, it's still very audible during very quiet and silent passages. Relative to other active noise-canceling headphones, the self-noise is, again, on the quieter side, but still very audible to me.

* Keeping in mind all of the above--that it's an active noise-canceling headphone that doesn't allow you to bypass its noise-canceling circuitry--how does The Beats sound? Actually, pretty darn good. Since at least half of what I'm listening to nowadays is jazz and classical, I'm probably not pumping the same music through The Beats that most Beats customers probably will. As I type this, I'm listening to the Bobo Stenson Trio's "War Orphans," and The Beats is holding up very nicely. Actually, I find its overall presentation to be versatile enough to hold up well with every type of music I listen to. Sonically, The Beats is a good headphone to these ears.
o There is some sensitivity to recordings in which sibilance is already present (think Alanis Morrisette's vocal track in her song "Uninvited"). The Beats doesn't seem to add sibilance to recordings in which it's not already present, but can emphasize it sometimes when it is.

* As for its physical appearance/characteristics:
o I personally think it's a very nice looking headphone. The photos don't do it justice. You have to see it in person and hold it to appreciate it. The fit-and-finish is really impressive, to my eyes and hands. Though they use a nice glossy material on the outside, they use what feels like a grippy hard rubber material to make it easy to hold (and that, with its matte surface, looks nice in contrast to the shiny stuff). To my eyes, there's something both retro-ish and very modern about the lines. The color combination looks good to me, too. Again, to my eyes, these are very attractive headphones to look at (and, to my hands, very nice to hold).
+ I have no doubt that many audiophile types will be put off by the "beats by dr. dre" print on the top of the headband.
+ I have no doubt that many audiophile types will be put off by The Beats' very distinctive appearance, not because they don't like how it looks, but because it will make it obvious that you're wearing The Beats by Dr. Dre / Monster Cable. I feel confident that it won't be long before The Beats are as easily recognized by the masses as the Bose QC series is. With its own unique design, the masses will soon recognize The Beats as easily as we audiophile types can spot a pair of Grados in the crowd for their different brand of physical distinctiveness. Personally, I'll gladly wear The Beats out and about when I think that a noise-canceling headphone that sounds good is in order (like when I want isolation, but don't want the ultra-isolation of my favorite in-ear monitors).
+ If not for the two points immediately above, I think many audiophile types would actually be very welcoming of its physical appearance (they also, in my opinion, look good when worn). In other words, imagine it didn't say "beats by dr. dre" on them and they were instead the latest design by AKG or Sennheiser--I think this design would be welcomed by many of us, from an aesthetic standpoint.
o The earpiece gimbals don't have enough range, which means that the earcups don't sit as flat on the ears as, in my opinion, they should.
o It doesn't fold flat. This is due to the choice they made to achieve a certain look, for which big fold-flat hinges wouldn't have worked. I personally appreciate a headphone that is made for travel that can fold flat.

I'll say more about it later, as there's more to say. I'll say this for now, though: The Beats is surprising, especially given the expectations that might have been set up by Monster Cable's first foray into headphones, the sonic tuning association with someone like Dr. Dre, and the fact that Monster Cable seems to lack some street cred with many audiophile types. I actually think some of the customers who will see this in the stores wanting bloated bass are going to be sorely disappointed, and many audiophile types pleasantly surprised, even if most of the audiophile types won't be buying The Beats.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/4511971-post70.html

May as well get these.

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http://www.audiocubes.com/product/Audio-Technica_ATH-A900_Art_Headphones.html

$215, enjoy.
 
Sorry to break it to you but despite all the consumer hype that Bose has, their headphones are SHIT compared to ones by the brands I listed in the same price range.

Bose gained a lot of popularity in the consumer world and thus everyone thinks they're some amazing brand and that's why they can jack up their prices... But in reality, quality headphones have been around for a while and for cheaper prices.

It bothers me every time you say Bose is shit, which, for some reason, is quite often.

They were the very top of the line for decades before you were born. Nothing was better. I'm not going to blindly say they are the best to this day, but they are not shit.


The best sounding speakers that I ever heard were 30 year old Bose floorspeakers.

I don't read reviews on audio products, but I've been to stores and demoed hundreds of audiophile products.

The 3 brands that stick out the most to me as the highest quality products are Denon, Polk Audio, and Bose. It's been at least a decade since then though, and granted a lot can change, but I doubt Bose's quality has fallen off that much.

Bose invented Satellite speakers, along with shit-loads of other things, remember?

When it comes to lower cost/consumer brands my favorite is Pioneer. For speakers, I would go with Polk audio, but really, I'd have to listen to the floor samples.

EDIT: Harmon/Kardon also seems to be an amazing quality brand as well, from the stuff I demoed
 
I've been to stores and demoed hundreds of audiophile products.
I could go to BestBuy for the rest of my life to test Dell desktops and never know that I could build my own computers.

I could go to the Apple store for 30 years and would never know that any mp3 player exists except the iPod.

See where I'm going? As much as real life experience is valuable, in this case, the internet really is a better guide than anything else.

Case in point: You would never test those Audio Technicas I linked, ever, because they only come on direct orders from Osaka. Yet they're ****ing good DJ phones.

I suggest instead of stubbornly clinging to your past appreciation of Bose, you should go and read about them in comparison to actual audiophile brands.
 
BUT THEY LOOK SLICK AND COOL AND HAVE FUTURISTIC NEVER BEFORE SEEN TECHNOLOGY (details have been omitted)

AND THEY'RE BACKED BY SOME MUSIC PRODUCER AND AN AUDIO CABLE COMPANY THAT SELLS OVERPRICED SHIT
I agree with everything Vegeta says. He is the authority on this subject.

Retarded headphones for $350 is retarded.
 
I agree with everything Vegeta says. He is the authority on this subject.

Retarded headphones for $350 is retarded.
Your post confuses me. The first part sounds really sarcastic, because in no way am I some headphone guru (viper knows more than me), all I'm saying is this thread is that I know bullshit when I see it...
 
Damn. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being sincere. It always comes through as sarcasm online? Why?

It's not the way i write is it? I think i was too absolute in my statement of you being the authority.

I was simply agreeing with you, i also read the original post and my bullshit meter went off scale and you laid it down to the original poster in a way i would have.
 
Well, coming from someone who I respect a lot, your post just seemed to good to be true, lulz. Thanks, I guess, though.
 
I could go to BestBuy for the rest of my life to test Dell desktops and never know that I could build my own computers.

I could go to the Apple store for 30 years and would never know that any mp3 player exists except the iPod.

See where I'm going? As much as real life experience is valuable, in this case, the internet really is a better guide than anything else.

Case in point: You would never test those Audio Technicas I linked, ever, because they only come on direct orders from Osaka. Yet they're ****ing good DJ phones.

I suggest instead of stubbornly clinging to your past appreciation of Bose, you should go and read about them in comparison to actual audiophile brands.

I know, I almost said that. Granted, these are just retail brands.

I know the speakers at Best Buy and even some of the Audiophile retailers aren't going to be the best in the world, I know you can pay $100,000 and more for a pair of speakers because I've seen it.


But when it comes to price/performance, it's hard to these brands

Denon, Polk Audio, Onkyo, Yamaha, Harmon/Kardon, and others sound mind flipping fantastic to me. And paying 100 times more for an elite brand to me is not going to make a big enough difference. Almost the equivalent to gold plated connectors and monster cables.

You don't get what you pay for. It's mostly for the Research & Development that you are paying for. And brands like Bose don't have to make you pay too much for R&D because they move much more units.

But yeah, like Vegeta said, you will get a mark up to pay for Bose R&D and brand name, but I don't think it's really that much at all anymore.

Most of the stuff I listen to is compressed MP3's of distorted music, mostly budget produced Metal, and Electronic, so I don't need $100,000 speakers. The source isn't that great to begin with.

I haven't bought new speakers in years, but I would definitely research all speakers or headphones in my price range before buying, so I can't say I disagree with anything you said, I just wanted to better explain my view.
 
Have you listened to anything we've said? Where the hell are you getting the idea that professional equipment = ten times more expensive? The whole point we've been trying to get across to you is that what a consumer brand would sell for a certain price, you can find the same thing from a professional brand at a cheaper price. Consumer brands rely on the fact that consumers don't know shit about audio, and so they'll pay more than what they should.

I'm sure you've heard a lot of amazing stuff. Our point is that you can hear the same amazing stuff in professional brand stuff for cheaper, and probably a more reliable product.
 
Rofl. Monster sells $7,000 cables that are indistinguishable from normally-priced ones, and this guy wants to buy their headphones?

Sennheiser HD-280 Pros. Pick 'em up. They're $100, very reliable and sturdy, sound EXCELLENT (they're intended for studio use) and don't drain much power (if you want to use them with a portable music player).
 
Better yet, go to a garage sale and by some old school speakers, fill them uo with honey for that rich, sweet sound, put them on a chain, hang them round your neck, make a cable out of bark for that oaky timbre, plug it into a gramaphone, and pump some old school beats while walking around your town. Then you'll be cool.
 
well I spent a bunch of money on games the other day...sigh
thank you for that link nightshade I will look in to those.
 
A pair of good headphones aren't gonna fix your computer soundcard which is usually pretty crappy, or your ipod, which is really crappy

not that this is surprising, it's all about selling lifestyles these days
 
I got my headphones at Future Shop for 5$.

They were on sale :(
 
Oh boy. This puts you up there with Alan00000000.
 
$350 is way too much money for a pair of headphones. Are you gonna wear them outside of the house? Well, better get a pair of $50-70 headphones then because they ARE going to break.

They might be awesome, but don't waste your money. You can get a pair of awesome headphones for much less than that.

This

gg buying a name

Sennheiser headphones are brilliant, mostly, also a third of the price.
 
Well, at least we know who to beat up for money.
 
Congratulations on spending too much money on inferior headphones. Now as well as the stupid things you might say people will have visual cues that you are foolish!
 
Congratulations on spending too much money on inferior headphones. Now as well as the stupid things you might say people will have visual cues that you are foolish!


:smoking: oh yeah.

a fool with awesome headphones.



people don't walk up to me and say duurr you hipster payed to much for headphones durr.
Infact people are curious and nice,I get nothing but polite questions about them.
but yeah you guys are the true "hipsters" being cool is not cool anymore with you people.
 
Didn't know headphones were a sign of being cool

brb, gonna be cool with my headphones
 
additional post ostracizing unzero for his purchase of headphones which we've deemed as superficial
 
Dre sure makes the best beats in the hiphop/rap industry, but this is probably just market tactics to get you to buy these headphones.
 
Whatever you payed could have gone to buy far superior headphones. It's just a simple fact.

headphones which we've deemed as superficial

There's nothing to "deem", it's simple fact.

Product designed for and marketed for consumers that don't know anything about the product they're buying + gigantic price tag that can not possibly be backed by a worthy quality level = bullshit

Real quality audio products have been around since before it became cool to have high quality. Headphones like the one's Uno bought are made by companies that are trying to cash in on this trend and the ignorance of consumers. The company would be stupid to have spent the time and money and effort to actually create headphones truly worth a price like that, because they simply don't need to. People like Uno will buy anything marketed well.
 
You don't even know how hey sound....They are well worth what I paid for them.
 
I'm sure you have a wide range of experience with listening to professional headphones.

You're not understanding the logic here Uno, I don't need to hear what they sound like. It's like saying I need to be in the Earth's core to know it's hot.
 
Still obviously overpriced since you're not telling us what you paid.
 
How can you know that if you never even used them before.
 
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