Bloom Energy to be revealed tommorrow; cheap way to generate electricity in your home

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According to The Wall Street Journal, Bloom will unveil whatever it's unveiling at eBay's Silicon Valley campus Wednesday morning. A countdown clock on the sparse Bloom Energy Web site continues to count down.

So far, the only real source of this information is CBS' 60 Minutes, reported by Leslie Stahl. Stahl's opening words should give pause: "...a generator in a box you'll put literally in your back yard. You'll generate your own electricity with the box, and it'll be wireless..."


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2360253,00.asp

neat I'd pay to get off the grid if that's what this thing promises to do
 
I can only hope this is effective and takes on big. Will be better for society.
 
Kinda hard to get excited about anything with a veil over it. Let me know when they reveal the details.
 
Why would they beam power wirelessly? That's extremely inefficient, you loose half of the power each time you double the distance from the source (dont remember the name of this law, it has to do electromagnetism). I'll wait to see what they release but I can pretty much gurantee it will be bullshit. Anyone wanna bet me a $1?
 
this is an amazing idea. of course energy companies would fight this and it'll probably be outlawed
 
From wikipedia:

The Bloom Box is a solid oxide fuel cell made by Bloom Energy that can use fossil fuel, bio-fuel or solar power to produce electricity on the site where it will be used.[6] The current cost for each hand-made Bloom Box of the business size is $700,000-800,000. In the next stage, which will likely be mass production of home-sized units, Sridhar is hoping to bring down the cost of each of these home sized bloom boxes to under $3000.[5]

Its ceramic plates are made by baking common beach sand and each ceramic plate is coated with a "secret" green ink on one side and another secret black ink on the other side.[5]

To save money it has cheap metal alloy plates between the two ceramic plates, instead of platinum, which costs about USD $42 per gram.[5]

Sridhar says that a single cell (one metal alloy plate between the 2 ceramic layers) produces enough power for a light bulb and 64 cells produce enough for a coffee shop.[7]

It can run on most hydrocarbon fuels, such as ethanol, biodiesel, methane or natural gas. [4]

So its a over hyped generator. I can gurantee it wont transmit power wirelessly.
 
Why would they beam power wirelessly? That's extremely inefficient, you loose half of the power each time you double the distance from the source (dont remember the name of this law, it has to do electromagnetism). I'll wait to see what they release but I can pretty much gurantee it will be bullshit. Anyone wanna bet me a $1?



I'll take that action.

If it's bullshit and impractical I'll pay you a dollar - If it's mind blowing an awesome, you pay me 1 dollar.

Got paypal?
 
I'll take that action.

If it's bullshit and impractical I'll pay you a dollar - If it's mind blowing an awesome, you pay me 1 dollar.

Got paypal?

Sure do. It's on son.
 
Sure do. It's on son.

**** I just actually read the article and it does seem slightly bullshittish.. Ah well I made the bet hopefully it's mind blowing I want my dollar!
 
10 says the makers are all assassinated
 
Oh, a methane generator.

Wake me up when something important happens.
 
10 says the makers are all assassinated

you're probably right:

According to 60 Minutes and other reports, Arnold Schwarzenegger is scheduled to make an appearance.

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Huh....
Yeah, was hoping for something more...I don't know.....good?
 
Sounds like some sort of composting gas generator. High temperature high efficiency composters are basically slow burning your food waste with bacteria, so it makes sense. Don't know how much electricity you can get out of that.
 
Now, let's get the important issue out of the way:


Is this $1 bet between you two taking paypal fees into account? I believe it should. (I believe they are 3%).

So the bet is really $1.03

This, as you know, really ups the pot, along with the risks!
 
I didn't think about that, I think we should lower the bet to 97 cents then; I dont know if I can afford $1.03. That or we can do it with a money order.
 
I'm man enough to keep it at $1.03.

Looks like SOMEONE IS BITCHING OUT.
 
I think that instead of burning the methane, they have devolped a battery that uses methane and oxygen as the reactants and a zirconium compound as the electrolyte.
 
tell me when it can make power from my SHIT (and shit has methane so...yay?)
 
these guys will either be killed or will suddenly disappear someday. i really hope this works through, as it could change the world for the better. cleaner air, more money for people, and everyone good is happy. all the evil people in the world will hate this device
 
I read the thread title as blood energy.
For a brief moment I pictured a society of pseudo-vampires, draining the blood of conquered slave nations all for the sake of powering their toaster-ovens and fax machines.
I was disappointed.
 
these guys will either be killed or will suddenly disappear someday. i really hope this works through, as it could change the world for the better. cleaner air, more money for people, and everyone good is happy. all the evil people in the world will hate this device

It tends to be people who break the 2nd law of thermodynamics who are killed by the new world order, and quite frankly they deserve it. People who break the laws of physics are dangerous.
 
these guys will either be killed or will suddenly disappear someday. i really hope this works through, as it could change the world for the better. cleaner air, more money for people, and everyone good is happy. all the evil people in the world will hate this device

You wanna put up $1.03 too?
 
Oh, a methane generator.

Wake me up when something important happens.

The real question is the energy in vs. energy out efficiency. If it breaches the efficiency of 20% efficiency of internal-combustion, it is big news. That of course does not account for losses in the alternator itself, but I don't even know what that is so I won't try.
 
I remember seeing zero point energy devices but they go away very quickly. also in space you can achieve zero point energy around planets and stars efficiently but right now its not practical
 
I'm still putting my money on fusion reactors to change the world. Too bad that so far the prototypes have been inefficient/impractical.
 
Bloom energy should be powered by the bloom from the current and previous generation of video games. Twilight Princess and Shadow of the Colossus alone would power all of North America and parts of Europe for decades.
 
And Oblivion would live up to its name, Chernobyl-style.
 
What game gets the "most bloom ever award"

I'm going with Dues Ex: Invisible War. Shit looked like Vaseline. (It was reduced in a patch)
 
I remember seeing zero point energy devices but they go away very quickly. also in space you can achieve zero point energy around planets and stars efficiently but right now its not practical

Pardon me?
 
So it sounds like I'm probably a dollar richer.
 
PM me your paypal thing you son of a bitch.
 
PM me your paypal thing you son of a bitch.

I'll tell you what, next time you're at a store and they ask you to donate $1 for any charity or cause they happen to be promoting or you see one of those salvation army things just throw a dollar in there for me. I'll take your word for it.
 
Heh, didn't realize until a few minutes ago that Colin Powell is on Bloom's board of directors. That was an interesting sliver of information.
 
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