Bodies of 2 missing GIs recovered in Iraq

[hari66]

Your argument is hard to take seriously when you refuse to use such basic English constructs like "You" and "are".

Ha.
I bet you learned that style from the current US administration-- if you cant discredit someones opinion, just sort of shoot the messenger and question the guys credentials --- say he is mad, went to the wrong school ,is gay or something like that.
Anyway, THANX FOR DE HINGLISH LESSON, PROFF.

You know, THERE ARE IRAQI SECURITY FORCES DOING THE JOBS TOO.

Yeah, i know. after completely dismantling the existing system, u found desperate people who would do any job in the world and brought them in. and not to forget those people who just wated to get in as moles.

 

[CptStern]

If the US took "international law" seriously like you suggest they would not be in Iraq. If the US respected world opinion Guantanamo Bay would not exist.

that's my point

 

[Sulkdodds]

but its obvious who you side with, so you're probably slapping the al qaeda terrorists who decapitated these young men on the back too. great job they did!

Is it possible for you to get through a discussion without accusing your enemies of being terrorist supporters?

Hell, Stern was condemning of the USA in Iraq partly on the basis that it was responsible for the deaths of US soldiers.

 

[gh0st]

it's obvious you're an idiot because everyone knows criticising soldiers murdering civilians is equal to supporting terrorism. But nice attempt at avoiding the fact that your soldiers are commiting atrocities in your name ..keep going down this road, I look forward to you revealing your bigotry and being permanently banned ..strike three gh0st ..buh-bye! :E

lol what just because im not here to make 2 thousand anti US posts a day from the comfort of my igloo doesnt mean they are going to ban me outright.

seriously though.. if you are seriously trying to state that the enemy we are fighting have greater "morality" than we do that is severely delusional.

Is it possible for you to get through a discussion without accusing your enemies of being terrorist supporters?

Hell, Stern was condemning of the USA in Iraq partly on the basis that it was responsible for the deaths of US soldiers.

stern uses the troops to his political advtange. he lambasts bush for killing these precious young men but then tries to find every single wrong they do and apply that wrong to the entirety of the whole group. hence stern is a manipulative toolbox.

 

[CptStern]

lol what just because im not here to make 2 thousand anti US posts a day from the comfort of my igloo doesnt mean they are going to ban me outright.

you dont need 2000 posts ...just one

seriously though.. if you are seriously trying to state that the enemy we are fighting have greater "morality" than we do that is severely delusional.

point out exactly where I said that

 

[gh0st]

point out exactly where I said that

is it not implied by

they're [the terrorists] not bound by international law are they? the US is, they're not there to "help the people of iraq" are they? they have nothing except their own twisted morality to keep them in check

if the american troops have this "twisted morality" (which is ridiculous and false) then is it not safe to assume that our enemy DOES have this non-twisted morality? by mere virtue of the fact they arent bound by these international laws, which makes what they do ok?

 

[Sulkdodds]

Nope. Far as I could see his point was that since they are terrorists they have no particular obligation to be moral: they're evil bastards. The US by comparison are the government of a developed nation that likes to believe, or at least likes to tell everyone, that it's a shining beacon of freedom and goodness in the world, and that its only reason now for being in Iraq is to help the Iraqi people. And by descending to the level of terrorists all they do is stir more people into action; in the worst case scenario, every civilian killed directly or indirectly by coalition forces will inspire another madman who will be perfectly willing to chop of people's heads without provocation because they'll be sharing the eye for an eye mentality of their opponents.

Brutality and nastiness inspires more brutality and nastiness. An eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye etc. I took Stern's posts to be saying that the harsher you are, the more people are going to turn against you; thus, any brutality on the part of the USA is directly responsible for increased insurgency and, by extension, friendly casualties.


EDIT: When he said "twisted morality" he was referring to the insurgents, I think. "Morality" because they think they are in the right; "twisted" because either they're not, or because even if they are (hard to argue) they're being unforgiveably evil f*cks in the process of fighting for their cause.

Meanwhile, the US - in theory - has international law and its assumed moral high ground to keep it in check.

 

[CptStern]

if the american troops have this "twisted morality" (which is ridiculous and false) then is it not safe to assume that our enemy DOES have this non-twisted morality? by mere virtue of the fact they arent bound by these international laws, which makes what they do ok?

<knockknock> HELLO MCFLY!!


try reading it again ..I clearly meant the terrorists

they're [the terrorists] not bound by international law are they? the US is, they're [the terrorists] not there to "help the people of iraq" are they? they [the terrorists] have nothing except their own twisted morality to keep them in check

if you had no problem seeing that I was talking about the terrorists in the first example why couldnt you follow that train of thought and extend it to the other 2 examples? is it reading comprehension or is lateral thinking too difficult?


well said Sulkdodds ..you managed to understand what I was getting at, dont see why gh0st cant

 

[baxter]

This is what I find so annoying about it all. Two real people have died, under the most appalling circumstances.

Did they die for this?

Or this?

Or maybe this?

No they died because we are idiots, our simplistic view of this world allows us all the luxury of bastardising anybody who opposes us and it allows us the immunity of any emotions whatsoever.

Why do I no longer comment on this dreadful slaughter anymore? Because by our total stupidly we allowed it all to happen.

These are real people with real families, with real feelings and real emotions.

I express my total sympathy.

 

[French Ninja]

****ing ****s.