Boy rapes 4 girls

[MiccyNarc]

Freaking shoot the guy.
He's a waste of air.

 

[Yuri]

Haha, wow, people are actually blaming this kid's wrong-doings on violence on TV and porn? What about.. hrm... parenting? And the individual himself?

Jeez, I never thought someone would actually believe that here.

The future is quite screwed.

 

[JNightshade]

He's just f*cked up. It's that simple. Rapists are nothing more than extremely damaged individuals (often because they themselves have been raped). It's a disgusting, vicious cycle. And that kid... well, while my gut reaction is to want to watch him burn, realistically, therapy and being put away for a LONG time would probably do him better.

 

[KoreBolteR-]

im tellin ya, the UK needs toughter laws!

bring back the death penalty!

 

[Nat Turner]

Rape is celebrated in some cultures. It's no more terrible than killing intelligent animals (like pigs, birds, bears, dogs, dolphins, whales) for their meat...

 

[Nat Turner]

He's just f*cked up. It's that simple. Rapists are nothing more than extremely damaged individuals (often because they themselves have been raped). It's a disgusting, vicious cycle. And that kid... well, while my gut reaction is to want to watch him burn, realistically, therapy and being put away for a LONG time would probably do him better.

No, that's simply not true. He hasn't been brainwashed by societal influences to think rape to be horrible, and apparently he wasn't scared of the law.

But mess with a first world society enough like he has, and you won't get to see the light of day again...

 

[Yuri]

...you know, I bet you're just saying that for a reaction, Nat, so I don't think I'll warrant you with one. I suggest everyone else do the same.

 

[Nat Turner]

...you know, I bet you're just saying that for a reaction, Nat, so I don't think I'll warrant you with one. I suggest everyone else do the same.

People evolved partially through rape. It's arguably just as natural as eating meat. No I'm not just saying it for the reaction.

Thornhill and Palmer's argument begins with the statement that all human behaviors are, no matter how indirectly, the result of some evolutionary adaptation. They note that since the human brain itself, and thus all capacities for any kind of action whatsoever, evolved from natural selection, the only point of dispute is whether rape is only a by-product of some other unrelated adaptation (such as a desire for aggression, domination, etc.) or if rape itself is an adaptation favored because it increases the number of descendants of rapists. They argue that the latter case is true.

Thornhill and Palmer argue that the underlying motivations of rapists evolved because they were at one time conducive to reproduction. In the book, they note that the overwhelming majority of rape victims are of childbearing age, suggesting that childbearing ability is involved in a rapist's choice of victims.

Women, they argue, have evolutionary-psychological adaptations that protect their genes from would-be rapists. "We feel that the woman's perspective on rape can be best understood by considering the negative influences of rape on female reproductive success," they write. For example, the book cites a study claiming that victims of childbearing age suffer more emotional trauma from rape than older women. They present this as evidence consistent with their theory, as women in the ancestral environment beyond their reproductive years had less to lose, in terms of genetic progeny, by being raped.

Also, almost every major Greek and Roman god was conceived through rape. There are many very old paintings glorifying rape.

 

[Yuri]

Yes, you are, actually. If you do believe it, all the more power to you, I hope you are arrested before you do anything terrible.

So good job being a general dickhead either way.

 

[Nat Turner]

Yes, you are, actually. If you do believe it, all the more power to you, I hope you are arrested before you do anything terrible.

So good job being a general dickhead either way.

Good job being so ethnocentric.

And no I don't apply abstract philosophies to my personal life. I conform to society.

 

[Yuri]

So I don't understand your point.

You say that he was "brainwashed to think rape is horrible." What is the point of this statement? Of course, just about every society knows that rape is a terrible thing. Maybe some have accepted it, but this is irrellevant. You can't deny this, and if your philosophy differs, then you don't deserve to be around other people. With the "brainwashing" you are implicating that its some sort of negative thing.

So let me ask, what was the point of stating all that completely unrelated stuff other than a "shock" reaction? And do you, yourself, condone rape?

 

[Nat Turner]

So I don't understand your point.

You say that he was "brainwashed to think rape is horrible." What is the point of this statement? Of course, just about every society knows that rape is a terrible thing. Maybe some have accepted it, but this is irrellevant. You can't deny this, and if your philosophy differs, then you don't deserve to be around other people. With the "brainwashing" you are implicating that its some sort of negative thing.

No I said that he wasn't brainwashed to think rape is horrible, unlike most people here who apparently have. Humans throughout history have raped eachother with a great frequency(a TON more than murder, so don't bring that into the picture). Is it wrong for homo sapiens to act like homo sapiens?

So you think rape is a "terrible thing" because most societies don't condone it? Do you realize that slavery used to be allowed in the majority of societies? Would you think slavery to be O.K. if the world were still like that?

So let me ask, what was the point of stating all that completely unrelated stuff other than a "shock" reaction? And do you, yourself, condone rape?

It's not a "shock reaction". It's broad evidence to show that rape isn't necessarily bad and is even accepted in some societies. I'm pointing out that this kid isn't so terrible like everyone is saying. He's just a social deviant. And yes, I condone rape, as well as meat-eating, slavery, property ownership, pet ownership, abortion, and self-defense.

 

[Spectre01]

There is definately one thing we learned from this article: Don't **** with tha police.

 

[Yuri]

Erhm, sorry, the "was" was a typo, I meant to say "wasn't."

Isn't a big point of a "civil" society intended to seperate humans from animalistic behavior? Even so, I don't even think animals rape each other... it sure seems like they are willing (but perhaps you can prove me wrong?). That aside, societies all over the world have accepted all kinds of barbaric and terrible acts in relation to today's society. Everything that is considered "civil" in a society is relative to the society itself... there is no point in arguing that. But your personal philosophy of what should and should not be allowed in society doesn't effect shit. And I don't think that you can argue that rape is okay in any case. "It used to be okay" is quite a bad defense, as well.

I think just as well as most people that being a "social deviant" is too kind a term for a rapist. The past legality of rape is irrelevant -- rape is a terrible thing, and should be harshly punished. Its a violent act against another human, in a physical but also extremely mental way.

I also apologize for the dickhead comment; I misinterpreted your post. I am sincerely sorry for it, quite out of line.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

I retract my statement, it was a sweepingly large generalization. However, to deny that the media has no role in influenceing violent and sexual behaviour is, in my opion a generalisation that is just as large.

Further more, I agree with a previous post that the parents have a large role to play in the outcome of a kid like this. They should be punished just as much as the kid should be. I just hate the way everyone thinks the solution to this issue is to chuck the offender into prison. What about all the offenders we dont hear about? how do we solve those issues? incest and pedaohphelia is much more prevalent than people would like to admit, its just not talked about.

The logic behind your assertation that pornography leads to pedophelia is flawed. Pedophiles are not attracted to women or men, they are sexually attracted to children (it doesnt even matter what gender the child is) ..child pornography is banned in most of the world, therefore it is logical to conclude that pornography plays no part in the development of pedophiles

Clearly, any child pornography plays a part in reinforceing a pedophiles desires, whether or not it is banned or illegal to watch doesn't make a large difference for a pedophile.

in other words you're saying that you are allowed to be "a pedofile or a murderer or a rapist" so long as you dont affect anyone else ..but you're missing the point here ..if you havent committed a crime in any of these 3 areas (a pedofile or a murderer or a rapist) then you are not "a pedofile or a murderer or a rapist" ..according to the law you guilty of nothing more than "wishful thinking" up until you actually commit the crime ..you cant be arrested for a crime you havent commited

in other words you're saying that you are allowed to be "a pedofile or a murderer or a rapist" so long as you dont affect anyone else ..but you're missing the point here ..if you havent committed a crime in any of these 3 areas (a pedofile or a murderer or a rapist) then you are not "a pedofile or a murderer or a rapist" ..according to the law you guilty of nothing more than "wishful thinking" up until you actually commit the crime ..you cant be arrested for a crime you havent commited

So according to the law, you are not a murderer or rapist or pedophile, even if you believe that it is completely acceptable to do those things unless you actually act on your beliefs (which is usually only a matter of eventuality anyway, because all our acts are founded fundamentally on our beliefs). Thus the reason a pedophile doesnt molest is so he doesnt get caught, not because he thinks its wrong. The reason I dont rape women is because I'll get jailed for it, not because I think its wrong to rape. Do you see the issue with a liberal system like this? The only thing stopping you from doing what ever the hell you want is a jail sentence.

come on, that's completely rediculous ..are you suggesting arresting all those who believe they have a right to commit a crime but dont follow through? sounds like your advocating the introduction of thought crimes to me

No, I am suggesting a system of society that encourages educating people on what is acceptable and why instead of a soceity that encourages people to do what ever they want as long as they don't breach the law. When you have a media full of deep throating and chainsaw killings, people become increasingly desensitized to these obsucure acts of sexuality and violence. Desensitization then, in turn, causes an acceptance of these acts, and soceital acceptance causes changes in law. For example, think about how prevalent the word 'blowjob' has become in modern western culture? A few decades ago this word was unspeakable. But through desensitisation and acceptance, not only is the word used like any other, but headjobs are happening much more frequently and liberally, especially amoung young people. How long before deepthroating becomes as acceptable?

My point is, something is right/wrong/accaptable/valuable/ etc, not because I put value in it, but because there are reasons outside of ourselves that govern things' rightness/wrongness/acceptablitiy/etc. If the prior was the case, then there is nothing wrong with me being a pedophile. I believe its right to do such things, and that is what makes it right.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

I think just as well as most people that being a "social deviant" is too kind a term for a rapist. The past legality of rape is irrelevant -- rape is a terrible thing, and should be harshly punished. Its a violent act against another human, in a physical but also extremely mental way.

The only reason socially deviant seems like a kind term for you, is because you have been brought up in culture that has enforced that view in you. Rape is not wrong, it's just thought to be wrong by alot of people. That doesnt make rape wrong. I mean most people used to think the the world was flat, that doesn't make the world objectively flat.

 

[Yuri]

The only reason socially deviant seems like a kind term for you, is because you have been brought up in culture that has enforced that view in you. Rape is not wrong, it's just thought to be wrong by alot of people. That doesnt make rape wrong. I mean most people used to think the the world was flat, that doesn't make the world objectively flat.

Okay, let's get something straight.

Any opinion on any subject that anyone has ever had is influenced very much so by the society and culture they were raised in. That argument means nothing in this debate.

The collaborative conscious of the civilized (relative term, I know!) society we currently live in knows that rape is a terrible thing. I like to think that as humans, we are in a continuing state of advancement toward a more fair and practical civilization. Rape is inhumane because it brings bodily harm and massive mental harm upon another person. Another human being takes advantage of another human being for no just reason. In our current society, murder, war crimes, and genocide are all other examples of rules we have set that are unjustifiable, through things such as the Geneva convention. No one is permitted to break these rules because as a society, we have collaborated and decided that these things are inhumane. So it can be concluded that rape is wrong. Rapists are not simply "social deviants." They are psychopaths and criminals against humanity. Their punishment is up to the specific society they reside in. Most people are agreeing that this particular example deserves much worse.

Comparing a fact like the shape of the Earth to a social issue like the morality of rape makes no sense. Please don't make that comparison.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

The collaborative conscious of the civilized (relative term, I know!) society we currently live in knows that rape is a terrible thing.

As I stated in my last post, the beleifs of the majority cannot be used to justify something. What if the majority of people believed it was okay to rape? In thier view, rape would be the 'civilized' thing to do.

Rape is inhumane because it brings bodily harm and massive mental harm upon another person.

If you were in a society were the majority believed rape was a normal process, then it would not bring massive mental harm upon another person. It would just be deemed as something 'normal' that happened to you. As for bodily harm...look at football. There is alot of bodily harm inficted in that sport, But because the arguably barbaric act of football is 'normalised' nobody has a problem with it.

Another human being takes advantage of another human being for no just reason.

The reason is that the rapist wants to have sex. Whether this is a just reason or not is argueable, and is, what we should be focusing on.

[/b] Rapists are not simply "social deviants." They are psychopaths and criminals against humanity. Their punishment is up to the specific society they reside in. Most people are agreeing that this particular example deserves much worse.

Again, most people agreeing with something does not justify that something.

Rape isnt wrong because its unacceptable in our soceity. If thats your reasoning, then by that logic, not raping would be unnacceptable in a soceity what not raping is unaccpetable.

Why is rape wrong? Rape is wrong because life isnt material utility. Rape is wrong because life has intrinsic meaning and value. And raping someone is to devalue them.

If you do not beleive life has intrinsic meaning and value, if you beleive that it is simply coincidental meanigless atoms floating around, then anything goes, Nothing can be proven to be right or wrong, The thing that is right or wrong is defined by the entity in power. In this case the entity in power happens to beleive that rape is wrong, but also that football is normal and unbarbaric. This is why these things are deemed acceptable or unacceptable. In the 1930-40s, it was okay to incite racial hatred against jews, it was normal to be racist. Why? because the entities in power beleived it right to devalue jews, and thats what took place.

Personally I believe that power does not define what is right or wrong. I believe that all things in life hold intrinsic value. So its wrong to commit genocide, because you are devalueing human life. It's wrong to rape, because you are devaluing the victim, it's wrong to pollute the air because you are devalueing nature, etc.

 

[Llama]

People evolved partially through rape. It's arguably just as natural as eating meat. No I'm not just saying it for the reaction.



Also, almost every major Greek and Roman god was conceived through rape. There are many very old paintings glorifying rape.

How ****ing dare you try to justify the rape of four children. There is no excuse. ****ing sick

 

[xcellerate]

Rape is wrong because just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Forcing somebody to do something they don't want to do isn't nice, and on the level of rape it's even worse because of the risks involved.

There's no excuse for it, i say death. The same goes for anybody associated with child pornography.

 

[Llama]

Indeed.
I cant understand how any self respecting Crown Court judge could only send him away for such a short time.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

because he is FOURTEEN.

This isnt just an issue asscociated with the individual. It is a soceital issue.


Boy rapes girl. Boy BAD. BOY must be PUNISHED.

The world doesn't work like this.

 

[el Chi]

Lock him in for 15 years, at least. Bastards like this one doesn't deserve to be around other people. I don't care if he had a rought childhood etc., nothing can justify this.

I agree with you; what this boy has done is absolutely abhorrent and my sympathy for these girls is boundless. Plus, four years is not a long enough sentence, but in an odd way, I can see why.
It's important to find out why this has happened; what's caused this boy to have this mentality in the first place? Saying "Well, it has, and we'll lock him up for ages and that's that." won't really solve anything. This guy clearly has some deep-seeded social issues that won't be solved by just punishment; one of the points of prison is also supposed to be rehabilitation, as well as punishment, and it's a bad idea to just assume he's beyond that.
If we don't understand what caused him to behave in such an awful way, he'll only be worse when's he's released. He'll have little-to-no concept of the real world, which is not going to be good for him, nor for society.

 

[Yuri]

As I stated in my last post, the beleifs of the majority cannot be used to justify something. What if the majority of people believed it was okay to rape? In thier view, rape would be the 'civilized' thing to do.

First of all, the opinions of the majority do shape what is considered "right" and what is considered "wrong." Everything is dependant on a relative understanding of a society by the society itself. Simply saying "what the majority thinks doesn't matter" isn't a good debate tactic.

If we were both raised in the such society, we may think that rape was acceptable. But we weren't, we were raised in a completely different society where rape is obviously something horrible to do, just like the majority of the current rendition of the civilized world. What the hell is your point besides throwing around this relative stuff, which can be tied into any single matter of social issue, which are all based on the opinions of the masses.

If you were in a society were the majority believed rape was a normal process, then it would not bring massive mental harm upon another person. It would just be deemed as something 'normal' that happened to you. As for bodily harm...look at football. There is alot of bodily harm inficted in that sport, But because the arguably barbaric act of football is 'normalised' nobody has a problem with it.

Rape is when a person performs sexual acts against their will, no? If you deemed it an acceptable thing that happened to you... it would no longer be considered rape, would it? Perhaps it was society as a whole that was raping you. Either way, its not the same definition of rape that this particular case is about in any way.

And comparing football to rape is almost worse than comparing rape to the shape of the Earth. Football is a sport in which people consent to be hurt. The entire definition of rape is that there is no consent involved.

The reason is that the rapist wants to have sex. Whether this is a just reason or not is argueable, and is, what we should be focusing on.

That is not justifiable terms in the current understanding of our civilized world. I don't care what you argue.. it doesn't change the fact that people cannot harm others without a cause justifiable by authority.

Again, most people agreeing with something does not justify that something.

Again, you're wrong, and I don't see how you can say this. Everything is based on the opinion of the masses.

Rape isnt wrong because its unacceptable in our soceity. If thats your reasoning, then by that logic, not raping would be unnacceptable in a soceity what not raping is unaccpetable.

Uh, no, now you're just not making sense. By my logic, society as a whole decides what is right and what is wrong. Currently, rape is very wrong and I agree with this decision.

Why is rape wrong? Rape is wrong because life isnt material utility. Rape is wrong because life has intrinsic meaning and value. And raping someone is to devalue them.

If you do not beleive life has intrinsic meaning and value, if you beleive that it is simply coincidental meanigless atoms floating around, then anything goes, Nothing can be proven to be right or wrong, The thing that is right or wrong is defined by the entity in power. In this case the entity in power happens to beleive that rape is wrong, but also that football is normal and unbarbaric. This is why these things are deemed acceptable or unacceptable. In the 1930-40s, it was okay to incite racial hatred against jews, it was normal to be racist. Why? because the entities in power beleived it right to devalue jews, and thats what took place.

Personally I believe that power does not define what is right or wrong. I believe that all things in life hold intrinsic value. So its wrong to commit genocide, because you are devalueing human life. It's wrong to rape, because you are devaluing the victim, it's wrong to pollute the air because you are devalueing nature, etc.

These are your opinions and your philosophy, which have very little to do with the punishment of harsh crimes such as rape.

I don't even know what I'm arguing with you about. You seem to just be saying all these scattered shards of philosophy that are hardly connected.

Summary, then:
Society as a whole decides social issues
Society decides that rape is wrong and should be punishable
This kid raped four f*cking girls and as such deserves much more than what he got

 

[15357]

because he is FOURTEEN.

This isnt just an issue asscociated with the individual. It is a soceital issue.


Boy rapes girl. Boy BAD. BOY must be PUNISHED.

The world doesn't work like this.

14 = old enough for most things.

 

[CrazyHarij]

14 = old enough for most things.

yeah people are really underestimating teenagers these days.

and another thing, you can compare rape to slavery because they both harm other human beings, but i seriously dont' think you should compare it to meat-eating, property ownership and pet ownership and abortion etc.

 

[ComradeBadger]

Rape isn't about sex, it's about having power over an individual, and ruins people for the rest of their lives.

It IS NOT the same as saying the world is flat.

 

[short recoil]

Rape isn't about sex, it's about having power over an individual, and ruins people for the rest of their lives.

It IS NOT the same as saying the world is flat.

Do you think it compares to bullying?

 

[Llama]

because he is FOURTEEN.

This isnt just an issue asscociated with the individual. It is a soceital issue.


Boy rapes girl. Boy BAD. BOY must be PUNISHED.

The world doesn't work like this.

Who gives a ****, he was 14, thats old enough to understand what he was doing...stupid ****ing country and its ****ing useless legal system.

 

[Mutley]

How would it be different if it happend in the USA then?

 

[mortiz]

How ****ing dare you try to justify the rape of four children. There is no excuse. ****ing sick

Welcome 2 teh Intranets!!!1

 

[Llama]

How would it be different if it happend in the USA then?

How should I know? I dont live in America. I just said our legal system is rubbish.

Oh, and Mortiz...what the hell is that supposed to mean?

 

[Yuri]

It seems Mortiz was telling you "welcome to the internet" because people do things like justify rape here.

Also, fourteen year olds are completely responsible for their own actions and should be punished as an adult would in extreme cases such as these. If the kid were, say, five... the case would be different. But fourteen is not a wandering, clueless human being. It should be a functioning, civil human being who will be held accountable for the actions he takes.

 

[el Chi]

If you treat them as an adult, do you still send them to a young offenders' institute until they hit 18 and are transferred?
I am in no way attempting to defend rape, nor rapists, but in a situation like this, spending the vast majority of their formative years ('cause let's face it, adolescence is when your personality begins to form) in a correction institute essentially subverts any ability they would have to survive in the outside world, once released. They will not have been rehabilitated (one of the aspects of prison) ; if anything, they will have become more removed from socially acceptable, humane behaviour and could still prove a danger to society.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

Rape isn't about sex, it's about having power over an individual, and ruins people for the rest of their lives.

It IS NOT the same as saying the world is flat.

Don't take my goddamn analogies out of context. They become useless when you do that. I used that analogy, to elucidate the issuie with justifying that something is true based on common beleifs. Hence, people commonly believe the world is flat, doesnt make it flat. People commonly believeing rape is wrong, doesnt make it wrong. Get it?

First of all, the opinions of the majority do shape what is considered "right" and what is considered "wrong." Everything is dependant on a relative understanding of a society by the society itself. Simply saying "what the majority thinks doesn't matter" isn't a good debate tactic.

One, I am not useing "what the majority thinks doesnt matter" as a debate tactic. My aim here isnt to utilise tactics so i can brainwash you. My aim here is to inform you as to why believe that what the majority believes doesn't make things true.

If we were both raised in the such society, we may think that rape was acceptable. But we weren't, we were raised in a completely different society where rape is obviously something horrible to do, just like the majority of the current rendition of the civilized world. What the hell is your point besides throwing around this relative stuff, which can be tied into any single matter of social issue, which are all based on the opinions of the masses.

No its not a obvious truth. this value that your mind holds as a "obvious and natural universal truth" is one that has been implanted in to your head by the society you have been brought up. Hence, saying, rape is universally and obviously wrong due to this reason doesn't hold. Rape is universally and obviously wrong due to universal reasons, not relative reasons, such as what the majority of soceity believe.

Rape is when a person performs sexual acts against their will, no? If you deemed it an acceptable thing that happened to you... it would no longer be considered rape, would it? Perhaps it was society as a whole that was raping you. Either way, its not the same definition of rape that this particular case is about in any way.

If the word rape would change, or atleast the meaning of it would change in this hypothetical rape accepting society it wouldnt stop you from being penetrated without consent. So basically your saying, that in this society, it wold be fine for you to pentrate people without their consent, because it wouldnt be considered 'rape'.

Again, you're wrong, and I don't see how you can say this. Everything is based on the opinion of the masses.

If by everything you mean the reality of the universe, then no. The reality of the universe is not based on the opinion of the masses. The reality of the universe is based on REALITY.

Uh, no, now you're just not making sense. By my logic, society as a whole decides what is right and what is wrong. Currently, rape is very wrong and I agree with this decision.

So if rape was currently very right, I assume you would be agree with that decision, as your definition of what is right and wrong is socially determined.

These are your opinions and your philosophy, which have very little to do with the punishment of harsh crimes such as rape.

This may be true in soceity, however I see no reason for you to mention this, as we are not debating whether my opions or philosophy have a lot or a little to do with the punishment of rape. We are debating whether rape is wrong because the majority of people say its wrong or because of reasons outside of what is socially determined.

I don't even know what I'm arguing with you about. You seem to just be saying all these scattered shards of philosophy that are hardly connected.

It seems that way because your socially determined mind doesn't get it.

 

[skull24]

4 years for raping 4 young girls? WTF, This guy is 15 and he should be doing at least 10 years in jail for what he did.

 

[Vegeta897]

/randomly pops in thread

So if rape was currently very right, I assume you would be agree with that decision, as your definition of what is right and wrong is socially determined.

He didn't say he agreed with whatever society thought, he said that he happened to agree with it.

/pops out

 

[Yuri]

I'm not going to have a dumbass quote war, those get nothing across...

My point is: Society itself is what shapes your opinions and your personality. Everything that you are in contact with does, in fact, but society and the masses are a main influence. You can't escape it, and discussing it really doesn't hold any purpose, because it applies to just about any single political debate we could ever concieve. Murder, death penalty, abortion.. its all relative. There is no point in pointing that out.

I agree with an opinion that is shared by the vast majority of humankind, that rape is a horrible thing. Asking me to assume that I grew up in a completely different world and a completely different position, where rape was "okay," is impossible-- I would be a completely different person entirely, no? So would the world. What's the point of discussing this?

Agree or disagree with me, I don't care either way. I think we can both agree that what he did was wrong, no matter why it was wrong, or how it was wrong.. correct? On top of this, he knew it was wrong, and is responsible for his actions. So, you can pretty much conclude that, well, he should have gotten something far worse than he did.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Rape is bad, regardless of what society thinks about it.
At points in history it has been okay for a husband to rape his wife. Society thought it was okay. It was still wrong.

 

[15357]

Rape is bad, but only because society agrees with you/me that its bad.

Same with everything else in life. Morals are only accepted societal norms.