Brave Neighbor Kills 2 Robbers - 911 Call

wtf! you don't go around shooting people for any reason! they were only robbing the house not killing random people on the street! Goddam!
 
This was posted somewhere else on the boards.

That guy wasn't brave. He was stupid and by taking matters into his own hands, he not only ended the life of somebody who didn't deserve to die(robbing doesn't mean you deserve to die, only go to jail), but now his life is probably null and void as he'll be prosecuted for it and sent to prison.

Stupid on all counts. If it was self defense, that's another story... but this was an offense.
 
Yeah they were only robbing ,just had not taken time yet to kill anyone or rape any victim. Not to mention what there past actions were! Good neighbors are hard to find these days, most of them are worried about feelings and the criminals rights to act. To protect our neighbors property now is to protect your property in the future.
 
Posted twice under the names "Vigilante Neighbour" I think and the other not sure.

Capital Punishment?
 
skarrob said:
Yeah they were only robbing ,just had not taken time yet to kill anyone or rape any victim. Not to mention what there past actions were! Good neighbors are hard to find these days, most of them are worried about feelings and the criminals rights to act. To protect our neighbors property now is to protect your property in the future.
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And to kill two robbers now is to... uh... kill two people now?
 
Some nutjob gunning people down for no real reason is not a good neighbor...
 
...and the consensus was that what he did was awful D:
 
1. This is texas. You do not rob shit in texas or you will get shot.

2. This is texas. This man will most likely get away with this.

3. This is texas. You can be killed for being a potential cow thief. Not even already in the process of stealing one, if they suspect that you are stealing a cow they are within there rights to blow your head off.

4. Why the **** are you robbing shit in texas D:
 
He should go to prison, the guy is a murderer.
 
Eejit said:
He should go to prison, the guy is a murderer.
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It'd be manslaughter, and I agree, he should go to prison.

If someone was robbing my house, with me in it, I would probably kill them, mainly because I wouldn't be sure of their intentions after they're done robbing me.
 
lolol

"I've got a shotgun, want me to stop em?"

I love this guy, I want him living next to me
 
I love how easy going the cop on the other end is

"Naaah...I dont think you should..you might get hurt."

You'd think when someone tells you they have a shotgun and there going to go outside and shoot two robbers, you'd try your best to keep em on the line.
 
We don't need this argument/discussion again :|
 
Adrik_Senturu said:
I love how easy going the cop on the other end is

"Naaah...I dont think you should..you might get hurt."

You'd think when someone tells you they have a shotgun and there going to go outside and shoot two robbers, you'd try your best to keep em on the line.
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I think that cop knew he had no chance of actually stopping the redneck retard from shooting the robbers. He made the bare minimum effort so that he can say he "tried" to stop him, with proof on tape.
 
I I was the neighbor I prolly would be pissed. I mean he got blood all over his yard, which needs to be cleaned. Actually, I'm fine with it, I'd force him to clean it up.
 
Strange how he kept going on about defending himself, then like went into the guys yard and shot the guy dead. At least, I think he went into his neighbour's yard, might have been his own.

Is it me or did those shotgun blasts sound kind of wierd?
 
Brave, but reckless. I'm not sure why he opened fire- did the other two carry weapons? He shot first and asked questions later, an obvious sign of just wanting to shoot the shit out of something. He wasn't thinking clearly, panicked, and slammed on the gas. He should have had the prudence to ask the robbers to put the loot down and wait for the police to arrive.
 
Pesmerga said:
Brave, but reckless. I'm not sure why he opened fire- did the other two carry weapons? He shot first and asked questions later, an obvious sign of just wanting to shoot the shit out of something. He wasn't thinking clearly, panicked, and slammed on the gas. He should have had the prudence to ask the robbers to put the loot down and wait for the police to arrive.
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Old man: Oh hey guys um..could you just drop all that stuff your stealing and just wait till the police get here? :D

Not saying shooting them first was the right thing to do, but you don't exactly ask robbers to stop what their doing. Even if he had the shotgun pointed at them, they probably would've ran or if they were armed might've tried to shoot him. Did the article say if they were armed or not?
 
I hope the ****er gets thrown in jail for this. They were stealing things, not raping or killing. It wasn't worth their lives regardless of whether they were human scum or not.
 
Ennui said:
I hope the ****er gets thrown in jail for this. They were stealing things, not raping or killing. It wasn't worth their lives regardless of whether they were human scum or not.
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What if they were stealing the life savings of a war veteran?

Or photographs of a dead child and other precious heirlooms?

What if they had previously burgled other properties in the area, and seriously assaulted the occupant?

What if they were involved in gang crime?



**** THEM. DON'T ROB HOUSES IN TEXAS, IF YOU GET CAUGHT YOU GET SHOT.
 
What criminals would steal a bunch of photographs of a dead child? I'll bet you that all the police found in their "bag of loot" was some jewelry, cash, and maybe an ipod or something.

The point is that they weren't necessarily doing anything other than stealing, which is wrong, but not so wrong that they deserve to die. I would have a slightly different opinion if it was the homeowner who shot them, but in this case it's completely wrong.

You listened to the phonecall, the guy was out to kill them. He didn't give them time to respond, he just walked outside, said "Hey!" and then proceeded to murder both of them. Human life is intrinsically valuable, and the right or justification to take it was not present in this case.
 
I'm a little confused - Did he go over to the other house's yard or did they come to his?
 
It sounds like they were leaving the other house and possibly crossing through his front yard (towards the ROAD, I imagine) to do so, although I'm not sure about that.
 
I don't know... I don't think it's fair to blame anyone for this. I know if I had been in his situation, heck, if anyone had been in that situation -- Assuming the robbers did indeed come at him, they would be scared shitless. A lot of shit and stupid ideas go through your head when you're panicking or on edge.
 
Gunner said:
This just makes me laugh, you must have had a very sheltered life.
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Explain to me what is worthless about human life. I'm talking about respect for other living beings, for the fact that they exist in the same manner and wonder as you do. I would never kill anyone unless I absolutely was forced to to defend myself or my family, and I would feel incredibly bad about it regardless of circumstances. I'm not sheltered, thank you; I feel that there are some things worth valuing and human life is most certainly one of them. In any circumstance.

Nemesis6 said:
I'm not gonna blame anyone for this. I know if I had been in his situation and if they did indeed come anywhere close to me, I would totally panic.
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Don't get me wrong. I would be watching out the window or standing by the door listening as intently as I could with my shotgun cocked and ready to fire if they tried to come in my house. I might even go outside like he did, and point the gun at them and tell them to stop. If they ran, I would either let them run (the police came about 30 seconds after he shot them) or I would shoot them in the legs rather than attempt to kill them. The only justification for killing them in my mind would be if they had a gun and tried to shoot him (in which case his stupid ass should have stayed inside) or if they had killed or raped someone.
 
And that's the thing - They could have been armed, they could have been repeat-offenders, they could have been anything, and he could indeed have shot for the legs and missed - We don't know, and that's why you're(not directed at anyone specifically) being retarded when you classify him as a murderer based on a frantic 9/11 call. Noone knows what exactly happened here... Unless of course there's an article about it or something.

By the way, do we know for a fact that they died from this?
 
He didn't shoot for the legs and miss, there weren't enough gunshots. Yes, we know for a fact they died from this. I believe he shot one in the back as he was running away (the second guy). They were not armed, obviously, and whether they were repeat offenders or not isn't necessarily relevant. Uncertainties do not serve as justification this situation because nothing more than presumably a few hundred or thousands of dollars of property was at stake.
 
Ennui said:
He didn't shoot for the legs and miss, there weren't enough gunshots. Yes, we know for a fact they died from this. I believe he shot one in the back as he was running away (the second guy). They were not armed, obviously, and whether they were repeat offenders or not isn't necessarily relevant. Uncertainties do not serve as justification this situation because nothing more than presumably a few hundred or thousands of dollars of property was at stake.
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How do we know they weren't armed? I really would like some additional information. Anyway, what I mean by missing is not missing the target, but the area he aimed for. I think you got some of what I said wrong - I'm only talking about the assholes here who call someone a murderer even though they don't know the details. It's basically a witch-hunt - This person said that this person did that. We don't really know what happened beside from what we heard in the call.

Anyway, here's a story apparently about this incident - http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=5538780
Unlike what seems like the majority of you dumbasses, I'm not gonna need to check it to make sure that my accusations are right, because I haven't made any.
 
This discussion again? PAH.

What makes humanity a SHITTY race? We kill each other for personal gain, we hurt each other for reasons unknown, and we are just a bad bunch of people. Instead of killing people, why not just everybody kill themselves, and we save this planet some suffering.

I like that idea.
 
Ennui said:
Uncertainties do not serve as justification this situation because nothing more than presumably a few hundred or thousands of dollars of property was at stake.
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Keyword presumably. Not enough is known about the situation to create an opinion on it.

If the guy opened fire and killed two people who were robbing a house for petty cash, the guy can obviously go to court and serve time for double homicide.

If the guy acted in self defense against two robbers who were trespassing on his property, that's another story. Especially if those two were armed or carrying concealed weapons.

If I were in his shoes when he confronted the two thieves, I would have pointed my weapon at them and commanded they drop whatever they were carrying, get off my property and run far, far away.
 
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