Breaking news: gunman opens fire at Northern Illinois university near Chicago!

pistolero said:
Or ask themselves why people do this in the first place.

Protip: Guns don't turn people into psychopaths.
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no but guns make it easy for psychopaths to kill people ..a whole shit load of people ..and he doesnt even have to have anything more than just a functioning index finger
 
Eejit said:
No not recently.

And none at schools or universities. That goes for the UDA/UVF/LVF etc. too.
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Ah. I suppose then that Americans are just more prone to flipping out and killing people. Maybe you and the rest of the world should just nuke us to oblivion so we can't cause any more problems, eh?
 
Ennui said:
Ah. I suppose then that Americans are just more prone to flipping out and killing people. Maybe you and the rest of the world should just nuke us to oblivion so we can't cause any more problems, eh?
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Clearly you're all descended from ninjas. Nukes would therefore be ineffective.

We'd need pirates.
 
CptStern said:
no but guns make it easy for psychopaths to kill people ..a whole shit load of people ..and he doesnt even have to have anything more than just a functioning index finger
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But it could be as easily be prevented by guns. But you're right, instead of thinking about why people turn into such monsters and how we could prevent this, we should move back to caves and club us with sticks and stones. But hey, atleast we won't make it too easy for those psychopaths! :)
 
pistolero! said:
But it could be as easily be prevented by guns.
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or just as easily escalated into an all out shootout with students not knowing who the real gunman is ..way to make a tragic situation that much more tragic

pistolero! said:
But you're right, instead of thinking about why people turn into such monsters and how we could prevent this, we should move back to caves and club us with sticks and stones. But hey, atleast we won't make it too easy for those psychopaths! :)
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alarmist kneejerk reaction much? that analogy is just stupid, sorry but it is .. "instead of the trooths lets go back to cave men times and draw on walls and whack womenz over the heads with big sticks and everything!!!" ..how does that even remotely relate to anything we're discussing?

"well if they dont do this they're sure to NUKE US FROM ORBIT!! you dont want to be NUKED FROM ORBIT DO YOU? of course not! case dismmssed"


^ this is essentially what you said except with different words
 
Three people that were killed has a myspace and they are all private. One actually left a customized "not here right now" message saying "Happy Valentine's Day Everybody!" with his mood set to excited. ;( His profile pic has him kissing his girlfriend too. Terrible tragedy. ;(
 
CptStern said:
"well if they dont do this they're sure to NUKE US FROM ORBIT!! you dont want to be NUKED FROM ORBIT DO YOU? of course not! case dismmssed"
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I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
 
no intergalatic travel agents in your neck of the woods?


elaborte a little, I'm not following
 
There are too many guns and too much ammunition in circulation in the US to ban them effectively.
 
CptStern said:
or just as easily escalated into an all out shootout with students not knowing who the real gunman is ..way to make a tragic situation that much more tragic



alarmist kneejerk reaction much? that analogy is just stupid, sorry but it is .. "instead of the trooths lets go back to cave men times and draw on walls and whack womenz over the heads with big sticks and everything!!!" ..how does that even remotely relate to anything we're discussing?

"well if they dont do this they're sure to NUKE US FROM ORBIT!! you dont want to be NUKED FROM ORBIT DO YOU? of course not! case dismmssed"


^ this is essentially what you said except with different words
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It isn't the solution. Get my point now?
 
I wanted to say something really insensitive and horrible to break the mood, but nothing came to me. These shootings are just getting... stupid. I find it hard to even feel anything for them anymore, which is obviously a bad sign.

It's probably also bad that I started to think automated turrets could be a viable solution.
 
Bad^Hat said:
I wanted to say something really insensitive and horrible to break the mood, but nothing came to me. These shootings are just getting... stupid. I find it hard to even feel anything for them anymore, which is obviously a bad sign.

It's probably also bad that I started to think automated turrets could be a viable solution.
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Too true.

My first reaction to this was a big ol' yawn. I caught myself kinda surprised afterwards.
 
How about we implant special devices in all US citizen's brains that can be detonated remotely if he was about to commit a crime?
 
sweeeeet ..can I has a remote control?


pistelero said:
In question. Oh and overeager decisions of course
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I too can string random words together

vehicular regicide maximum discorse preventable under distinct circumstances! natch
 
bbson john said:
It still shocks me that a country legalised selling of guns. Guns are so too dangerous that it should not be sold to civilian.
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Not the root problem at all.

It's like if people started stabbing other people with pencils, should we not sell pencils to civilians as well?
 
CptStern said:
sweeeeet ..can I has a remote control?




I too can string random words together

vehicular regicide maximum discorse preventable under distinct circumstances! natch
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Oh oh lemme try!

If you can't frazzle your opponent with brilliance, dazzle them with bullshit!

Nah you're better at this.
 
Pistolero, fancy sentences do not make a point any more valid.
 
For **** sake, more horrible news about innocent people being gunned down. Just great. Lets have us a big old debate.
 
I was talking to my folks this morning about all of the shootings this year and last. Virginia Tech, then the 5 women being killed in a shopping store, then 6 people i think including a SWAT officer were killed in Cali., then this. I read in the paper this morning about the second kid who wanted to replicate Columbine.

Seriously, what the **** is this world coming to?
 
Eejit said:
Clearly you're all descended from ninjas. Nukes would therefore be ineffective.

We'd need pirates.
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I'm a pirate, and if a pirate revolution in America is what's called for, then ye kin bet yer pretty 'eart I'll be at the forefront matey.
 
zombieturtle01 said:
Not the root problem at all.

It's like if people started stabbing other people with pencils, should we not sell pencils to civilians as well?
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I can defend myself against a pencil-wielding maniac without needing to buy and carry a pencil myself. Alternatively I can run.
Also pencils aren't designed to be offensive weapons, despite what this maniac is doing with them.

Not the best analogy ever.

Ennui said:
I'm a pirate, and if a pirate revolution in America is what's called for, then ye kin bet yer pretty 'eart I'll be at the forefront matey.
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Don't be subverted by the NNA promising you treasure!
 
... did you say treasure?

Zombieturtle, pencils are not designed to kill other humans as efficiently as possible. Guns, on the other hand, are.
 
You can use anything to kill someone, but guns should be banned because they're too efficient at it? It would make it more difficult or even impossible for lunatics to go postal at unis, but it would also make it a lot more difficult for the "normal" people to protect themselves in other situations.
 
There was an article on the BBC just now about street-kid-knife-crime stuff.
 
Mr Stabby said:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/14/national/a140552S61.DTL&tsp=1

The shooter was medicated for mental illness, yet was able to purchase the guns legally.
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You guys really have to stop selling guns to people who have been treated for mental illnesses, at the least. :/

pistolero! said:
You can use anything to kill someone, but guns should be banned because they're too efficient at it? It would make it more difficult or even impossible for lunatics to go postal at unis, but it would also make it a lot more difficult for the "normal" people to protect themselves in other situations.
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It'd be impossible in America because it's too gun-saturated as it is. Better off keeping guns illegal (or at least not bloody everywhere) in other countries, etc.
 
I assume everybody's American until proven otherwise.
 
Eejit said:
I can defend myself against a pencil-wielding maniac without needing to buy and carry a pencil myself. Alternatively I can run.
Also pencils aren't designed to be offensive weapons, despite what this maniac is doing with them.

Not the best analogy ever.
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Ennui said:
Zombieturtle, pencils are not designed to kill other humans as efficiently as possible. Guns, on the other hand, are.
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... I was being satirical. You didn't get my point, guns aren't the center of this problem, people are. (Just like videogames, music, books, movies, knives, pencils are not the center of a problem)
It goes so much deeper than just being able to obtain a firearm, it goes into an entire societal mentality that people have yet to recognize and handle the right way. And those who do recognized and call out this societal problem are usually considered "politically incorrect".
But whatever, society will continue their mistake. The definition of insanity is doing something the same way over and over again, and expecting different results.
That's exactly what we've been doing for over half a decade now, and we wonder why shit like this keeps happening.

To just stop selling guns to civilians is rediculous. I do believe however, you should have to go through a more rigid and strict process of legally obtaining one.
 
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