breen and gordon

[magpie]

as you destroy the singularity breen falls, his lasts words are 'you need me'

he also tells you about how your a pawn and that your services are open to the highest bidder, in which case, if your being manipulated so skillfully, who does the g-man represent that wants breen and his operation taken down.

is the g-man on a side that oposes the combine?

bus the last words of breen make it seem like you have possibly been working for him.

oh and one other little question while i'm at it, why is the g-man called the g-man anyway?

also this is my first post so i apologise if this has already been discussed. i did search but i might have missed it, and did i post this in the right place?

 

[Asknoone]

You weren't working for Breen.

 

[pomegranate]

Dear God...
1. Who knows? No-body.

2. It appears that way.

"bus the last words of breen make it seem like you have possibly been working for him" Hardly. Why would he employ you to destroy him?

3. It's short for Government Man, his appearences HL1 and Shepard's 'diary' in the manual for Opposing Force explain that he works for the US government, or at least that he appears to.

Please read the forums some more before asking more questions, I'm putting it lightly if I say these are very old topics.

 

[magpie]

well, as usual all new forums seem to be very unwelcoming. oh well.

my point was that maybe you were in the employ of breen but the g-man steered you in a different direction. or perhaps you just did not do exactly as you were meant to.

anyway, while you're insulting me, why don't you make yourself useful and link me to these 'very old topics'.

 

[ríomhaire]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gman

 

[Adabiviak]

Magpie, pay no attention to these heathens! Welcome to the forums and let me see if I can be of some asstance.

1) Who the g-man represents is the subject of much debate. A search will point you in the right direction, as I'm certainly not qualified to justify a theory on this.

2) I believe the g-man (either independently or in collaboration with someone else) opposes the combine, particularly since he put you to task to defeat them.

3) As answered above, the term 'g-man' is an abbreviation for 'government man' or agent, and I believe this was actually coined in, what, the 70s or 80s?

What makes you think Breen's last quote infers that Gordon works for him? It sounds like a plea to me, but let's hear your story.

 

[Eejit]

I never thought Breen's last words were directed at Gordon.

 

[magpie]

well, i assumed they were directed at gordon because he had been speaking to him all along. but the reason i think that they meant that he was possibly in some way, and without his knowledge, contracted by breen was because of breen's earlier comment about his services being open to the highest bidder.

i don't definately think this though, i'm just speculating. and i also possibly think that maybe gordon wasn't working for breen yet, but that breen intended on inlisting him, possibly to be a uniting leader to the rebel forces. this is something he talks about a bit in 'dark energy'.

maybe the 'need me' comment refers to the fact that breen is gordons, and possibly mankinds, only link to alliance with the combine and, in breens opinion at least, their hope for survival.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Breen's last words were directed at Nihilanth, who's actually the leader of the Combine, and due to the Combine's nature, they want Freeman because he's more powerful than anything, and everyone knows Gordon is the G-Man, but the G-Man was in the picture of Black Mesa with Breen. IT COMES FULL CIRCLE!

-Angry Lawyer

 

[magpie]

thats such a load of crap. gordon is not the g-man. how could he be? i am open to speculation but that's just stupid.

and wheres the nihilanth in hl2? i really don't agree with any of those points. can you back them up?

 

[Angry Lawyer]

In a few hundred posts time, you'll understand the irony of my above statement

-Angry Lawyer

 

[magpie]

sarcasm doesn't work very well over text.

 

[Eejit]

Hey AL, use the [SARCASM]tags. You friggin newb.[/SARCASM]

 

[Mechagodzilla]

[sarcasm]This thread is awesome. Of course Breen hired Gordon to kill him. The events of every Half-Life game to this date are all the result of the world's most elaborate suicide attempt:

1) Breen starts the resonance cascade, hires the G-man to hire Gordon.
2) Ten years later, Breen tells G-man to send Gordon to kill Breen.
3) ???
4) ???[/sarcasm]

 

[Sulkdodds]

5) ???
6) Profit!


Breen's 'You need me' comment could have been a cry of desperation - he does, after all, try to bribe you with offers to reveal the truth. 'You need me, because you have no idea how far this goes'. Or alternatively, it could just be a general plea along the lines of 'you need me, without my rule humanity is doomed!'

 

[magpie]

yeah, that's what i said three posts ago, (last paragraph).

 

[Eejit]

omg one of his points had already been made by you in this thread. Get over yourself?

 

[magpie]

i'm sorry, was that a question? because the question mark seems to make it seem like it is. sooo.... get over myself? ummm... no.

oh and what was the point of your post?

anyway, i still beleive that breen's comment was more that throwaway, i think it was a glimpse into a more complicated story. i love the effect on those last few words, distorted by the failing portal.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Jesus christ. He's really obviously not talking to you. He's talking to all the people bitching at you for bringing up already-discussed points.

 

[magpie]

what breen?

lol, jus kidding. nm, sorry eejit, misunderstanding. peace peace. relax relax.. not that much.. NOT THAT MUCH!!

 

[chimpmunk]

"One groupe is wrong, the other is terribly wrong" -Gabe Newell (I think it was him who said that anyways).

Breen saying "you need me" might have something to do with this, what if Gordon was on the "wrong" side?

 

[pyroCow]

breens side is more wronger n00bz

 

[Gambneto]

Mabye G-man sent gordon to kill Breen and his force because mabye Breen was one of G-man's suggested highest bidders.....hmmmmmmmm?

 

[Asknoone]

Unlikely since you don't kill Breen anyway, the Gman takes out when the reactor is destroyed.

 

[iMMuNiTy]

Wow. I am impressed. When I clicked this thread, I thought this is a Breen = Gordon theory.

 

[Sam]

I thought the "you need me" was directed at Gordon, i.e. you need me or the combine will kill us all.

 

[cquinn]

2) I believe the g-man (either independently or in collaboration with someone else) opposes the combine, particularly since he put you to task to defeat them.

Except the G-Man never actually gives you a task in all this. He just
drops you into the situation with only a vague explanation of events
that have occured, and expects you to sort things out for yourself.

3) As answered above, the term 'g-man' is an abbreviation for 'government man' or agent, and I believe this was actually coined in, what, the 70s or 80s?

1920s and 30s actually (if not before). It was a nickname coined for
the newly deputized FBI agents who were going after the mob bosses
who controlled the illegal liquor trade during prohitbition IIRC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-men