British Doctors Advise Knife Ban

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It begins. Those of us who stand strong against gun control and the stripping of rights have said, "what's next, knife control? Just as deadly and used as a weapon more often.."

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Glad I'm not a Briton
 
Australia has good knife laws.
Can't buy one if you're under 16.
Can't carry one without a good reason
Can't have any bladed weapons (eg butterfly knives)
 
I think they should ban idiots. That'd solve half the problems we face today.
 
bliink said:
Australia has good knife laws.
Can't buy one if you're under 16.
Can't carry one without a good reason
Can't have any bladed weapons (eg butterfly knives)
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Think that's the same as here in the UK.

And yes, they should just ban chavs.

I've never come to a sticky end while using a kitchen knife.
 
Hehe... This is kind of silly..


But if they banned carrying knives in public places and had the right to randomly stop people for checks if they looked suspicious then we would probably be able to fine half the chavs in the country in under a month...



I know of only one friend who carries a knife... and to be honest if he got attacked I'd be more afraid that they would take it off him and use it against him... :(



I'm not bothered because this doesn't affect me really... Its not like I carry arround a knife.
 
Haha oh god, I clicked that article and I wish I hadnt:
Doctors say knives are too pointed
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Indeed they are!
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Never really thought about it before, but I think these doctors are right. I mean, what use is a pointy knife? Kitchen knives are for slicing, therefore they need a sharp edge; weapons are for stabbing and therefore need a sharp point.
 
I could stab you in your heart with a spoon too! And scoop it out afterwards. Ban spoons! And forks! And sporks too!
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
It begins. Those of us who stand strong against gun control and the stripping of rights have said, "what's next, knife control? Just as deadly and used as a weapon more often.."

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Glad I'm not a Briton
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What rights? What right does anyone have to have a long pointy knife? You can't use the standard argument of self defence. This isn't a big deal but I think it's pretty pointless.
 
marksmanHL2 :) said:
But if they banned carrying knives in public places and had the right to randomly stop people for checks if they looked suspicious then we would probably be able to fine half the chavs in the country in under a month...
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They are already banned. You can even get done for carrying a screwdriver without a valid reason.
 
I'd agree with it in principle.

But it's the fact that our government want to take away all forms of anything considered weapons in order to totally control us that gets me.

Oh well, if I don't have a knife, I'll use a JCB instead.
 
Feath said:
They are already banned. You can even get done for carrying a screwdriver without a valid reason.
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Knives aren't banned in the states. If the blade is longer than the width of your palm, you cannot legally possess it in public. Though. You know, I grew up hearing that, from everybody. It sounds kinda bogus, it probably is. Anybody know the truth? lol
 
kirovman said:
I'd agree with it in principle.

But it's the fact that our government want to take away all forms of anything considered weapons in order to totally control us that gets me.

Oh well, if I don't have a knife, I'll use a JCB instead.
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Yeah, I can see where the Doctors are coming from, but I'd rather the Government didn't pass any laws about it. At most, it's going to prevent a few injuries where people just grab something close to hand. But I certainly use longish kitchen knives in everyday life.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Glad I'm not a Briton
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I'm glad you're not a Briton, too :D

But seriously, it's not like it's going to be put into legislation, so calm down already.
 
we should ban lasers and light sabers, prevention is better than cure
 
I have to say I agree to this. The number of stabbings in London each week is staggering. There are at least 5 each week which are deemed "newsworthy", many of which are fatal.

In terms of street violence, knives are probably more dangerous than guns. In rough areas, the number of people who carry large knives is truly frightening, and the only reason these people carry knives is to each mess other people up, or defend themselves from getting messed up.


While I think that banning everything is not the best way to create a stable society, if this will stop at least some of the fatalities, it's at least worth a try until we can find a better solution.
 
Lobotomy Lobster said:
I have to say I agree to this. The number of stabbings in London each week is staggering. There are at least 5 each week which are deemed "newsworthy", many of which are fatal.

In terms of street violence, knives are probably more dangerous than guns. In rough areas, the number of people who carry large knives is truly frightening, and the only reason these people carry knives is to each mess other people up, or defend themselves from getting messed up.

While I think that banning everything is not the best way to create a stable society, if this will stop at least some of the fatalities, it's at least worth a try until we can find a better solution.
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I don't think that's the point. I think the point is that kitchen knives are close to hand. Like, when people get angry to the point of violence, they have something quite dangerous just in the kitchen.

If someone is going to set out to hurt or kill someone on purpose (as opposed to a red mist thing), they are still going to be able to do it.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
It begins. Those of us who stand strong against gun control and the stripping of rights have said, "what's next, knife control? Just as deadly and used as a weapon more often.."

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Glad I'm not a Briton
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"what's next, knife control? Just as deadly and used as a weapon more often.."
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No, a knive is not as deadly as a gun, if that were the case your government wouldn't give soldiers expensieve rifles but would just go for knives, I mean why wouldn't they , they are just as deadly but a lot cheaper, or are you just exagerating.

Second, a knife does not need to be pointy, it just needs one side oft he blade to be sharp so you can cut things, it does not need to pointy so you can stab someone.
 
Grey Fox said:
No, a knive is not as deadly as a gun, if that were the case your government wouldn't give soldiers expensieve rifles but would just go for knives, I mean why wouldn't they , they are just as deadly but a lot cheaper, or are you just exagerating.

Second, a knife does not need to be pointy, it just needs one side oft he blade to be sharp so you can cut things, it does not need to pointy so you can stab someone.
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Although you must admit slashing someone usually is not fatal unless you get a surface vein, whereas stabbing you are poking their internal organs.

Stabbing produces far more fatalities, especially if the wound is deep.
 
meh the only people bothered about this seems to be americans ...no that's not correct ...american gun nuts ..ya that's better
 
Actually I couldn't give a damn.

I own a few guns and knives...this is happening in britain not america.So no worries. :D
 
We enacted a similiair law abour 40 years ago if I remeber correctly. You aren't allowed to carry knives in public, and at home they're only allowed to a certain size. I think...
 
Grey Fox said:
No, a knive is not as deadly as a gun, if that were the case your government wouldn't give soldiers expensieve rifles but would just go for knives, I mean why wouldn't they , they are just as deadly but a lot cheaper, or are you just exagerating.

Second, a knife does not need to be pointy, it just needs one side oft he blade to be sharp so you can cut things, it does not need to pointy so you can stab someone.
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Well, I always need to use a point when I cut Onions (The vegetable, not the ex-mod).
 
i think it's dumb, they should fight with the cause, not the tool
 
kirovman said:
Although you must admit slashing someone usually is not fatal unless you get a surface vein, whereas stabbing you are poking their internal organs.

Stabbing produces far more fatalities, especially if the wound is deep.
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That was kind of my point, you know. Orinary knives should not be made so you can stab with them easly, only kut.
 
Raziaar said:
I think they should ban idiots. That'd solve half the problems we face today.
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Exactly! I know way to many idiots who might be 20 years old but I would not trust them with a knife. I think they should pass a law stating that whatever you do to someone will be done to you :hmph: I bet there would be a lot less stabbings if your punishment was to be strapped down and slowely stabbed with a knife a couple times. Harsh but before you say anything if you dont stab people why would you care? It is not inhumane they cause equal if not more pain to someone else!
 
Banning knives will just not work, it is so stupid.
I can make a knife in 10 mins with an angle grinder and a flat of steel.
Guns, yeah that's a different matter, not everyone can make one (people with mental age of 5)
But you cannot ban something as simple as a knife.
Look what happened in america during prohibition of alcohol, because it's so easy to make (ferment sugar) anyone could do it in their basement.
That's why it didn't work.

For banning like this to work you have to give up even more rights
"oh you've got to have a camera strapped to your head so we see if anyone is gonna kill someone ......think of the children!"
 
In the wise words of Chris Rock-

"Man, they shouldn't make guns illegal, they should just make each bullet $10,000 dollars! That way, you couldn't afford to kill people."
 
Dag said:
In the wise words of Chris Rock-

"Man, they shouldn't make guns illegal, they should just make each bullet $10,000 dollars! That way, you couldn't afford to kill people."
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No, that's just stupid since amunition is one of the easiest things to smuggle, you can reload cartridges tens of times, easily and theres a lot more ammo than there is guns already.
 
short recoil said:
Guns, yeah that's a different matter, not everyone can make one (people with mental age of 5)
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Yeah, I'd like to see you make a fully working firearm capable of killing somebody.
 
short recoil said:
No, that's just stupid since amunition is one of the easiest things to smuggle, you can reload cartridges tens of times, easily and theres a lot more ammo than there is guns already.
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It was a joke. But if you insist, making ammo $10,000 would hurt gangs, ect. Because then international black market prices would go up, but still be relativly cheap compared to the standard of $10,000 a bullet.
 
Kangy said:
Yeah, I'd like to see you make a fully working firearm capable of killing somebody.
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Although i have never done it (i have been tempted on occasions, but a 5 year min sentance is not nice) i know it is very easy.

It's so easy to make a simple sub machine gun.
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/
Check that site out, and before anyone says "omg it tells you how to make guns!!!!!", i really do hope freedom of speech and information is still upheld.

This guy made a submachine gun in a few days using hand tools only and a few scraps of metal, the gun worked well, almost as good as a production UZI apparently (except a lot less accurate due to smoothbore barrel)
They guy just did it as a political show, made a book on it, ended up in jail for 4 years total i think.

Making a gun is as simple as a GCSE design and technology lesson.
 
Banning kitchen knifes is senseless and not addressing social disorder.
Where does it stop, maybe ban screwdrivers, hammers, lenghts of scaffolding, or even bits of 2 by 2 wood?
It is not the weapon that kills but the motive and the individual behind the motive that kills.
Any person with half a mind to it could go out and kick and beat another individual to death. So maybe it is time to ban hands and feet, why not go the whole hog and ban total freedom of movement.
Maybe we should ban cars while we are at it.
 
Dag said:
In the wise words of Chris Rock-

"Man, they shouldn't make guns illegal, they should just make each bullet $10,000 dollars! That way, you couldn't afford to kill people."
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So then only criminals who buy their ammo ilegally would have it, and not the people who have their guns for non-criminal activies. Great idea!
 
Foxtrot said:
So then only criminals who buy their ammo ilegally would have it, and not the people who have their guns for non-criminal activies. Great idea!
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is there a discount chain store that only criminals know about? they would still have to pay $10,000
 
CptStern said:
is there a discount chain store that only criminals know about? they would still have to pay $10,000
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Ummm, no they wouldn't

Bullet heads can be cast from wheel weights, cartridge cases can be reloaded as i said earlier, primers can be re filled using match heads or cap gun cap filler, powder can be made with a bit of nitric acid and some cotton.

If i could make ammunition, i'm sure a criminal could as well, and sell it for a reasonable amount.
 
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