Brother in arme, just a mediocre game at time of shifting to the next generation

[Newbie's Journey]

well, many of u saying that it's gonna rock, i really think it will just be a mediocre game when it's time to shift to the next generation of gaming. When i'm going to have half life 2, doom3, stalker, moh: pacific assault, bf2, fear and tons of other professional mods like css, dod source, etc etc, i won't even have time to remember brother in arme which just looks like the old moh serie and call of duty. If the game was released a year ago, it could probably be a hit or even beat call of duty. Nothing really impresse me from that video. ok, maybe having squad control is new, but it could PROBABLY ruin the fun of the simply shoot them up gameplay. The AI just looks like the one in cod(see how those two germany soldiers move while the player and his assault team try to cross the yard from the right, they way they aim and run away from the grenade is just dumb), the world is not interactive, the environment is not destructable(see the bombardment should have destroyed part of the house and the trees in the yard, but they remain intact after the explosion, even cod can do better than that), grass won't catch on fire(the fire in hl2 can be spread out as objects around are flamable), and look the the face of that soldier at the beginning, his eyes can follow u but the rest is just damn dead. Ok that's about it. :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

 

[mortiz]

Who really cares what "generation" it's in though? If it's a fun game it's a fun game. People still play Half-Life the original or its various mods and still have huge amounts of fun, and Half-Life is 6 years old.

Yes, Brothers In Arms will probably be over shadowed by the big hitters due out, but it doesn't mean it'll be a mediocre game.

 

[DarkStar]

I don't understand. You say you don't like it because it looks like MOH, yet you have MOH as one of your most anticipated games? Hmm.....

 

[Newbie's Journey]

people still play street fight 2, the one with 12 players to choose, they even play that online on some illegal emulator, but does it mean the game is still good as before when there are tons of game with more advance gameplay, graphics, etc availabe out there ?? NO!!

the game sucks when it's late and miss its time to shine. surely u can play that, maybe u have a lot of time to spend on gaming, but not everyone does, people have dreams and life to pursue. videogame just happen to be my favour hobby, I love gaming, but i still can't play every game existed on the planet, cuz i don't have enough time, as a clearer player, i must be selective, and choose to play the best of the best.

 

[Prince of China]

I don't understand. You say you don't like it because it looks like MOH, yet you have MOH as one of your most anticipated games? Hmm.....

Maybe that's because he wants something new.
Sure, MoH was on his most anticipated games list, but maybe after he finished MoH, he wanted a successor to that.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

I don't understand. You say you don't like it because it looks like MOH, yet you have MOH as one of your most anticipated games? Hmm.....

i said bia doesn't look impressive cuz it looks like the OLD moh serie

 

[Newbie's Journey]

the point of this thread is not that bia sucks, it's that the game miss its time to shine sucks and bia happen to the example according to me.

 

[DarkStar]

Yo Newbie's, is English your native language?

No offense.....

 

[blahblahblah]

Okay, we already have a Brother in Arms thread but you feel your opinion is worth creating another thread? Wonderful.

I don't get it. You are already jaded abou WWII shooters, but you are looking forward to the next MOH game. :|

Viewing Halflife2.net is putting me in a bad mood today. :|

 

[Newbie's Journey]

Who really cares what "generation" it's in though? If it's a fun game it's a fun game. People still play Half-Life the original or its various mods and still have huge amounts of fun, and Half-Life is 6 years old.

Yes, Brothers In Arms will probably be over shadowed by the big hitters due out, but it doesn't mean it'll be a mediocre game.

If half life is still popular, it's becuz of cs and many mods which are contantly being updated. Many people who play cs doesn't even know what hl is and i used to be one of those people. Me i have only played hl sven coop online, cuz the single play doesn't appeal to me. If hl was really fun forever, valve won't need to develop a new engine and the new hl2. why don't they just keep selling the same old hl, cuz it's getting old and it doesn't generate enough income to support valve.

so why making all the technological progressions ????? To extend the fun. What used to be fun doesn't mean it's going to last forever.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

Yo Newbie's, is English your native language?

No offense.....

no, it isn't my native language, and i don't feel being offensed at all.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

Okay, we already have a Brother in Arms thread but you feel your opinion is worth creating another thread? Wonderful.

I don't get it. You are already jaded abou WWII shooters, but you are looking forward to the next MOH game. :|

Viewing Halflife2.net is putting me in a bad mood today. :|

this thread is not only about bia if u read more carefully, the other is just about the new video release

 

[B_MAN]

time for bed little boy

 

[Mr-Fusion]

BIA looks like it will excel in the story/emotional side of the things. Something MOH games are totally devoid of. The action looks pretty fun as well, so overall i think it will be pretty successful.

I think some people are putting too much expectation on games like Half-Life 2, hoping it'll completely revolutionize everything and make the competition look like utter poo. It may happen, but it's extremely rare. So stop saying nay in reference to other AAA titles.

 

[KiNG]

its got different gameplay(squad based action with new simplier/easier controls and more defineable/flexable roles due to the AI), its all about authenticity and fun. i dont see where u see its missed its date to shine its got almost everything that your loved mohpa does except for the ugly jell-o water.

newbie its not always about all the number of features an engine has that makes it a great game.

i love when people call a potentally very good game, mediocre based on the number of features the engine has. if u are however talking more about the engine than the game then yes, there will be better engines out by the time this game is scheduled to come out.

about the AI, the AI is squad and maybe even platoon based(which in it self is slighty complex), its a lot different that CoD. its more advanced and we know its not perfect, but game AI is getting a lot better. there is evidence that the AI is better and more flexible than previous games, i for one see it far better than CoD's.

edit: i agree with mr-fusion about the emotional factor which moh series completly lacked and this game showsalready with the small xbox demo.

 

[smwScott]

Well, BiA is a next generation game as far as I'm concerned. It's taking war gameplay to the next level, and it will probably be copied and ripped off by many other companies. It's the first truly unique WW2/Vietnam shooter I've seen since they first started coming out, with the possible exception of Shellshock (that won't be revolutionary, but the gritty way they present it will). The graphics are certainly very nice, but I really don't care about that. As long as they meet a certain standard any extra is just frills, I care about gameplay.

If you don't think it will be great, well fine. I honestly don't know if it will be good, but it certainly isn't going to be the same old thing we've seen in the past. It should be very interesting, and if you don't think so, well your entitled to feel that way. I really don't see the point of this thread.

 

[Foxtrot]

people still play street fight 2, the one with 12 players to choose, they even play that online on some illegal emulator, but does it mean the game is still good as before when there are tons of game with more advance gameplay, graphics, etc availabe out there ?? NO!!

the game sucks when it's late and miss its time to shine. surely u can play that, maybe u have a lot of time to spend on gaming, but not everyone does, people have dreams and life to pursue. videogame just happen to be my favour hobby, I love gaming, but i still can't play every game existed on the planet, cuz i don't have enough time, as a clearer player, i must be selective, and choose to play the best of the best.

Just because a game is out dated means it sucks? Oh so Goldeneye sucks? Half-Life sucks? I see....

 

[brink's]

If hl was really fun forever, valve won't need to develop a new engine and the new hl2. why don't they just keep selling the same old hl, cuz it's getting old and it doesn't generate enough income to support valve.

Perhaps its cause HL1 has sold 9 million copies and there is no one left to buy it, not cause its getting too old.

 

[B_MAN]

the AI in pacific assault looks absolutely atrocious
mohaa PA is just an update of the orginal really... in a different locale, with a new graphics engine
BIA will be the better game, no question

 

[Direwolf]

the AI in pacific assault looks absolutely atrocious
mohaa PA is just an update of the orginal really... in a different locale, with a new graphics engine
BIA will be the better game, no question

I'm not all that sure about PA myself, but I wouldn't jump so far as to say that. They're certainly much different games though, and BIA's approach is intriguing and exciting.

 

[ShadowFox]

Unfortunately Pacific Assault isn't being made by 2015.. so I have low expectations.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

Just because a game is out dated means it sucks? Oh so Goldeneye sucks? Half-Life sucks? I see....

yeah, if half life come out today, it sucks

 

[Foxtrot]

yeah, if half life come out today, it sucks

I don't think so, if it used todays technology it wouldn't. Sorry newbie, but it looks like you are just too much of a newbie hahaha...sorry that was horrible.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

Perhaps its cause HL1 has sold 9 million copies and there is no one left to buy it, not cause its getting too old.

they didn't sell 9 million becuz of half life itself, go to visiter the steam website u will know that the half life community is in fact a cs community.

 

[Foxtrot]

I remember when CS wasn't the most popular mod...ahh those were the days.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

I don't think so, if it used todays technology it wouldn't. Sorry newbie, but it looks like you are just too much of a newbie hahaha...sorry that was horrible.

see, u just mention it urself: "Today's technology" !!! Does bia use today's technology ?? where are interactive objects, where are dynamic lighting and shadowing, where are.....u got the point, right ??

 

[Newbie's Journey]

I said bia would be a great game if it came out a year ago, but it's going to be less great comparing too all other big titles with the most advance technologies, that is the point i'm saying, Don't you agree ?? if you don't , you should stick with 2D videogames for the rest of you life.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

I remember when CS wasn't the most popular mod...ahh those were the days.

Those were the days where half life was less popular.

 

[ShadowFox]

Those were the days where half life was less popular.

Yeah.. now we have 10x the number of immature idiots. Yay for CS!

 

[ShadowFox]

see, u just mention it urself: "Today's technology" !!! Does bia use today's technology ?? where are interactive objects, where are dynamic lighting and shadowing, where are.....u got the point, right ??

So how is the holy-CS popular without interactive objects, dynamic lighting and shadowing?

 

[Direwolf]

see, u just mention it urself: "Today's technology" !!! Does bia use today's technology ?? where are interactive objects, where are dynamic lighting and shadowing, where are.....u got the point, right ??

I see today's technology in its use of gigantic and accurate levels. I see today's production abilities in its strong use of character and writing. I see todays technology in its great sense of detail. I see todays technology in its excellent lighting (the sun in the trailer is excellent), and I see today's technology in its excellent animation (both face and body).

 

[Newbie's Journey]

So how is the holy-CS popular without interactive objects, dynamic lighting and shadowing?

didn't cs come out few years ago...didn't half life have a revolutional engine at the time it came out ??

 

[Foxtrot]

see, u just mention it urself: "Today's technology" !!! Does bia use today's technology ?? where are interactive objects, where are dynamic lighting and shadowing, where are.....u got the point, right ??

It doesn't have to use all that stuff, just make it look a little better so people will play it, make the AI better(even though it is still better than AI in most games), the sound and whatever else valve couldn't do because of technology limits.

 

[ShadowFox]

didn't cs come out few years ago...didn't half life have a revolutional engine at the time it came out ??

The Half-Life (Quake2) engine was quite ordinary by the time CS became popular.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

I see today's technology in its use of gigantic and accurate levels. I see today's production abilities in its strong use of character and writing. I see todays technology in its great sense of detail. I see todays technology in its excellent lighting (the sun in the trailer is excellent), and I see today's technology in its excellent animation (both face and body).

well it sounds like you haven't seen hl2, fear, doom3....

 

[Newbie's Journey]

so why don't you guys stick with 2d games ??

 

[Direwolf]

well it sounds like you haven't seen hl2, fear, doom3....

OMG their faces aren't as nice as HL2 and there isn't enough bump mapping. IT SUCKS!
Seriously, just because its not bleeding edge doesn't mean its bad. Its just not pioneering.

 

[DarkStar]

so why don't you guys stick with 2d games ??

I would love to play new 2d games! The problem is that they really don't make them anymore. I consider the pinnicle of the 2d genre to be Castlevania: SOTN, which is also my favorite game of all time.

 

[Newbie's Journey]

OMG their faces aren't as nice as HL2 and there isn't enough bump mapping. IT SUCKS!

Being good or being bad, it's all relative. obviously bia's engine sucks in term of technology, i don't want to spend couple hundred dollars on a videocard just to play something that look old. in addition, except having squad control, the gameplay is old too.

 

[Foxtrot]

so why don't you guys stick with 2d games ??

Because they lack so many things 3d games do, gameplay wise.