Bush's approval rating is low, or, How to rig a poll 101

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Ok, so CNN posts a poll, they try to broadcast nationally and internationally that bush's ratings are low, so? Does that matter, no! Posting results not in favor of bush in this forum will only incourage a battle between conservatives and liberals, Lets see this poll: Number of liberals on this forum=90%, number of conservatives=<10%. This is a pointless thread composed to flames. I mean who really cares, its not like anyone here is going to do anything about it (besides engage in pointless arguement), my theory of why people don't like him is because there have not been any big scandals or anything exciting thats happened in his presidency.
 
there have not been any big scandals or anything exciting thats happened in his presidency.
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No scandals at all?

Have you not read a newspaper since 2003?

Iraq WMDs
Karl Rove
Abu Ghraib
Hurricane Katrina
NSA Wiretapping

and that's just for starters off the top of my head.
 
Mechagodzilla said:
No scandals at all?

Have you not read a newspaper since 2003?

Iraq WMDs
Karl Rove
Abu Ghraib
Hurricane Katrina
NSA Wiretapping

and that's just for starters off the top of my head.
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I said "big" scandals that everyone would have herd about by not even having to read the newspapers, i didn't say there weren't any. I should have been more clear, big meaning simular to the Teapot dome scandal, and watergate. But thats my bad for not being more clear, but there ya go.
 
Regardless of literacy, how can anyone not at least be aware of the Iraq WMD scandal?
Abu Ghraib has been in the news almost as long.
They're a part of the cultural lexicon.

Watergate was comparatively minor. Nixon "just" stole information from a handful of people.

The NSA has been keeping illegal records on nearly every phone call made in the entire US for at least a year now.
 
Mechagodzilla said:
Regardless of literacy, how can anyone not at least be aware of the Iraq WMD scandal?
Abu Ghraib has been in the news almost as long.
They're a part of the cultural lexicon.

Watergate was comparatively minor. Nixon "just" stole information from a handful of people.

The NSA has been keeping illegal records on nearly every phone call made in the entire US for at least a year now.
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off topic but it was nixons purpose and his lack of addmitance that got him into so much trouble, he was trying to rig an election that he would have won anyways. Reagon=tephlon pres. #1 and GWB=tephlon pres. #2 no one really takes there accusations far enough to make a difference in public opinion, just an analogy, nothing sticks on his record for very long, may be the reason i never heard about the stuff you mentioned mecha. Just opinion.
 
Jake17 said:
I said "big" scandals that everyone would have herd about by not even having to read the newspapers, i didn't say there weren't any. I should have been more clear, big meaning simular to the Teapot dome scandal, and watergate. But thats my bad for not being more clear, but there ya go.
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What, so Clinton getting a blowjob is a big scandal (EVERYONE heard about that one) but comitting thousands to die in an illegal war isn't? Oh, and don't forget Guantanamo Bay, you know, that place where Bush is keeping hundreds of "suspected" Terrorist suspects without trial in the name of Freedom? What Bush is doing is worse than Watergate in my opinion, but since he's infringing upon the Human rights of non-american's you don't seem to care as much.

Wow, you have your priorities a little screwed up their buddy.
 
Vermont, the home of the braves and the land of free.

The people there still have the courage which many Americans have lost.

Quote, "All towns in Vermont vote to impeach Bush!

A single Vermont community's call for the impeachment of President Bush turned into a chorus Tuesday night, with town meetings across southern Vermont echoing the demand that Congress act to remove the president

http://www.thenation.com
 
Wow, that post is short, comprehensible, and nearly error-free.

Has kathaksung finally been turned into an FBI robot?


For the record though, Atlanta is the home of the Braves.
 
I wich that bush would hurry the **** up and declare martial law, dissolve congress, and modify the constitution.
 
15357 said:
I wich that bush would hurry the **** up and declare martial law, dissolve congress, and modify the constitution.
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Seriously dude, are you just trolling now? You cant mean half the things you say.
 
I was just kidding. :p

But really, what would happen if he did?
 
15357 said:
I was just kidding. :p

But really, what would happen if he did?
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Widespread rebellion, I'd like to think.
 
But theres also the possibility of widespread paranoia, fear of spies and terrorists.... So much that bush would reign for 30+ years....
 
Hey, If I controlled bush, I do it as an experiment. :p
 
Ricgar said:
Many of you have probably heard that Bush's approval rating has hit a low. After watching a few hours of CNN in my hotel room yesterday, it's almost been imprinted into my memory: Bush's ratings have dropped into the 34% rate, according to CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in1350874.shtml. I've had no less than five people go in and "stick" it to me - the polls show it, only 34% of the country approve of Bush - he must be the worst president, in like, ever!

But are they really showing the whole truth? With my prior experiences with the liberal media, and liberals in general, it's easy to see how rarely anything carries much weight. On the news article, there is a link here, to a PDF file:http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_bush_022706.pdf

Scroll down to the bottom and you'll see that the numbers show, in the poll:

289 Republicans
381 Democrats
348 Independants (Who almost always are leftist groups)

A simple math calculation shows, of the poll:

28% were Republicans (less than a third)
37% were Democrats
34% were Independants

I found this kind of funny, that this whole data that's being blasted all over the liberal blogs, and the TV, as well as word of mouth, is so easily disproved by clicking on one of the links in the news article. But, no one actually bothered to look, or really care.
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If this isn't proof the system works, I don't know what is.
 
A conflict poll

When NSA's phone data collecting was revealed, there were conflict polls. ABC said 63% people approve the spying. One day later, Newsweek said 57% people oppose it. A 20% difference at least. Which one do you believe?

Re: ABC

May 12, 2006 — Lending support to the administration's defense of its anti-terrorism intelligence efforts, 63 percent in this ABC News/Washington Post poll say the secret program, disclosed Thursday by USA Today, is justified, while far fewer, 35 percent, call it unjustified.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1953464

Most Americans Oppose NSA Phone Data Program in Newsweek Poll

May 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Newsweek poll found that 57 percent of Americans think President George W. Bush's administration has gone too far in expanding presidential power. Thirty-eight percent of respondents said it hasn't gone too far.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...QxLRw&refer=us

Bloomberg reported 41% of American support NSA Surveillance. In two days, there were 22% difference to the 63% done by ABC. Is that too easy to manipulate a poll number?

Is America the home of coward and the land of covert totalitarian? Most people like themselves to be monitored?

The reality is when the government wants to justify their fascist policy, they throw out a poll number to justify it. Then they found the lie is too big to be believed, (ABC's) so they hurridly push out another one to make it more acceptable. (Newsweek's)

But I think the real number of people who have the mind of slaves (include those who monitor others) may not be bigger than 20%.

Anyway, it reveals media and poll are only mind control tools of the government. How easy it is to be manipulated.
 
What I believe is that you are a lunatic and must be put down for the good of humanity.
 
Poll figure is a tool manipulated by the Inside Group. They make it around 30% for Bush right now to tease you while the real approve rate may be well below 20%. So what if it's 29%? Bush still sits in his chair. It doesn't affect him a bit at all. Any time they can pull him back to 50% or higher with another "terror bombing".

But they make you gathered at the door to peep inside. Happy or sad with the change of a number. Like teasing a child with a candy, or teasing a dog with a bone.

Don't behaved like a fool. Leave it alone.
 
If the INSIDE GROUP can't control ABC (the AMERICAN Broadcasting Corporation, and arguably the weakest station financially) then they are powerless to commit nonsensical conspiracies like these.
 
lol. You can always tell when someone is British, because they call it "maths" instead of "math."
 
You can also tell when someone is American because they call it 'math' instead of 'maths'. :eek:
 
heh where does that leave us canadians? :(


arithmetic?
 
Well canadians are pretty much considered americans.
 
How Bush made himself above the law.

Bush is above the law. He won't veto a bill of new law. What he did was to issue a statement to exempt himself from that law.

Quote, " Bush ignores laws he signs, angering Congress
Specter to chair Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on the practice

Bush ignores laws he signs, angering Congress
Specter to chair Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on the practice

The Associated Press

Updated: 2:49 a.m. CT June 27, 2006

WASHINGTON - A bill becomes the rule of the land when Congress passes it and the president signs it into law, right?

Not necessarily, according to the White House. A law is not binding when a president issues a separate statement saying he reserves the right to revise, interpret or disregard it on national security and constitutional grounds.

Instead, he has issued hundreds of signing statements invoking his right to interpret or ignore laws on everything from whistleblower protections to how Congress oversees the Patriot Act.

"It means that the administration does not feel bound to enforce many new laws which Congress has passed," said David Golove, a New York University law professor who specializes in executive power issues. "This raises profound rule of law concerns. Do we have a functioning code of federal laws?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13566353/
 
Yeah, aren't you supposed to be getting that daily beating by riot police just about now?
 
Shut it riot girl. I don't know about the rest of his rantings but what he just said there is compeltely true: for years Bush has been changing the meaning of new laws and establishing his right to 'interpret them' in Signing Statements. I'm posting from college and I've got the article in my bag, but my bag is not here so you'll have to wait for the specifics.
 
*grabs baton*

College. Anti-Bush. Must be a evil protester!

:p

but seriously, whatever he says, I interpret as lies. LIES!
 
Voting machines removed in Grafton
By CAROL ROBIDOUX
Union Leader Staff
Thursday, Mar. 16, 2006

Grafton – No matter how you do the math, 193 "yeas" plus 198 "nays" don't add up to 369 votes.
That faulty equation — results of a warrant article vote from Tuesday's election ballot — was the first clue for Grafton town officials that something was wrong.

As a result, two voting machines used to collect ballots in the annual town and school district meetings are now in the custody of the Attorney General's Office, removed from the town yesterday, said Grafton Selectman Jennie Joyce.

http://www.unionleader.com/article....rticleId=37f3b7dd-a9de-4bd8-99d4-f3a60b903754

What if the add up was correct but some "Nay"s were transfered to "yeas"?

Nobody could know the mistake because voter only knew the vote of his own.

That's how Bush could be selected President.
 
Sen Specter readies bill to help Bush expanding his fascist power to monitor people without court approval.

No check and balance for Bush if the bill past.

The secret wiretapping program is a violation to the Constitution, circumvents the law on secret-intelligence wiretaps and is clearly a unilateral power grab by the president.

Quote, "Stop the presidential power grab

Sen. Arlen Specter has crafted a bill that would rubber-stamp the program. Worse, it would essentially embed into federal law the notion that the president has the power under the Constitution to conduct electronic surveillance on anyone he wants, indefinitely and without judicial oversight, making a mockery of the right to privacy. The bill could come before the Senate Judiciary Committee as early as Thursday and must be defeated.

.... If the Specter bill becomes law, court orders will no longer be required for electronic surveillance of ordinary Americans. Because wiretaps would be secret, their targets would never find out they were monitored, even if they were deemed to be innocent. It would be up to the American people to trust the government's claims that it is only monitoring terrorists. In short, it would be an invitation to wholesale abuses of power and to the return of the politically motivated domestic spying that was commonplace int 1960s and 1970s. " (Mercury News 8/2/2006)
 
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