Canadian police prevent terrorist attack in Ontario

[French Ninja]

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TORONTO, Ontario (CNN) -- Canadian police on Saturday said they have prevented a major al Qaeda-inspired terror plot to attack targets in southern Ontario.

Twelve adults and five young people were arrested, authorities said.

"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said Royal Canadian Mounted Police Assistant Commissioner Mike McDonell in a news conference. (Watch Canadian police official describe the power of the plot -- :36)

"To put this in context, the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 people took one ton of ammonium nitrate."

The detained suspects are all males, Canadian residents "from a variety of backgrounds" and followers of a "violent ideology inspired by al Qaeda," said Luc Portelance, assistant director of operations for Canadian Security Intelligence Service. (Full list of adult suspects)

The men ranged in age from 19 to 43, and all lived in Ontario, according to Canadian police. No information was released on the youths.

The targets were all in Toronto, CNN's Jeanne Meserve reported at least one source as telling her. Authorities did not release information on targets except to say they did not include the Toronto Transit Commission.

Even the most liberal of countries are not safe from the hatred of Islamic extremists. Living generally close to the Canadian/US border, I'm glad they were caught.

Discuss.

 

[Yuri]

I don't understand why stuff like this doesn't get much coverage.

Looks like CNN is making a big deal out of it, as they should, but usually stuff like this is blown over for some weird reason...

Well, it should be a proud day for... people who didn't die, and those responsible for saving their lives.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Canada does have a pretty good record for preventing terrorism.
Why the hell would they attack Canada though? That's just stupid.

I can't really think what they would be targeting in Toronto anyways. The CN tower has pretty heavy security after 9/11 and there aren't any other buildings nearly as iconic.

 

[Adabiviak]

Terrorist or not, that's a lot of explosives probably intended for nefarious use. Nice catch!

 

[Sebastian]

Maybe it's a ploy to boost support for the war on terror

 

[CptStern]

funny how no one ever asks why they wanted to do this ..just saying they're sympathetic to al qaeda does nothing except spread fear. The very first thing police do when there's a crime is establish motive ..police would never be satisfied with the weak justification that it's a "protest against the treatment of muslims" ...usually people who plan to kill someone have more concrete motivations

 

[Ome_Vince]

Could you give examples of "concrete motives" for this kind of "terrorism" in which hundreds or more must die?
Are you referring to stuff like:
(afghan-russian war) -> get out of afghanisten
(9/11) -> retribution of America's foreign policy vs muslim nations
(Iraq-us war) -> get out of Iraq
(spain bombings) -> stop helping USA
(London bombings) -> stop helping USA and get out of Iraq

(Note: some of these motives i'm just guessing here).

In this case it doesnt make sense: why canada?

 

[CptStern]

Could you give examples of "concrete motives" for this kind of "terrorism" in which hundreds or more must die?
Are you referring to stuff like:
(afghan-russian war) -> get out of afghanisten
(9/11) -> retribution of America's foreign policy vs muslim nations
(Iraq-us war) -> get out of Iraq
(spain bombings) -> stop helping USA
(London bombings) -> stop helping USA and get out of Iraq

(Note: some of these motives i'm just guessing here).

In this case it doesnt make sense: why canada?

9/11 was in retaliation for bombing of al qaeda training camps that killed women and children in afghanistan and pakistan

spain was also "get out of iraq" ...even though had they not bombed Zapatero would have pulled the troops anyway (it was their biggest campaign promise)

canada has recently taken the role role in combat operations in afghanistan as part of their obligations to nato .. they're now actively engaged in a combat role along with the US as part of Enduring freedom ..which is probably why there's been far more deaths/attacks on Canadian troops in afghanistan in the last few months

 

[DreadLord]

Good job by them. :farmer:

 

[B_MAN]

from cbc.ca:


Declaring that Canada "is not immune to the threat of terrorism," the RCMP announced on Saturday the arrests of 17 people accused of planning a series of attacks against targets in southern Ontario.


i dunno, im just not buying it
support for our extended 2 year involvement in afghanistan is low at this point
we'll have to wait and see how this develops, since very little information has been released

 

[Yuri]

funny how no one ever asks why they wanted to do this ..just saying they're sympathetic to al qaeda does nothing except spread fear. The very first thing police do when there's a crime is establish motive ..police would never be satisfied with the weak justification that it's a "protest against the treatment of muslims" ...usually people who plan to kill someone have more concrete motivations

I'd think you would be happy to hear that innocent lives were saved, but alas, I was wrong. Of course you have to mention that it was just fear-mongering by our war-driven countries. I mean, the government is all evil and no good, right? (To add to it, uhh, this is Canada we're talking about, not the US ) God damn government, we should have let them attack us, because we deserve it!

Mentioning that they were from al Queda is wrong... how? Unless they outright lied, then they are telling the truth, no? Why does it matter what their personal vendettas against Canada are when they claim to be a part of a terrorist organization? I mean, I'm sure we will know why they were attacking or how they were attacking in due time, but that's usually kept hush hush for a reason-- the trials.

The motives you listed hardly justify the murder of innocents, stern. Yet you seem to want to portray them with an aura of reason, and it seems to be just because you love to hate governments.



Dreadlord, I am honored by your signature. Although it seems ridiculously out of context, lol.

 

[gick]

Good work mounties.

Also, a probable suicide attack using chemical weapons was foiled in London the other day. Phew.

 

[The Monkey]

Good.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Excellent job high five Canada and a sigh of relief for all people they didn't even know they were going to have to take!

 

[Mr Stabby]

Along with the foiled attack in Britain, it's good to see, intelligence services able to detect and stop these planned attacks

9/11 was in retaliation for bombing of al qaeda training camps that killed women and children in afghanistan and pakistan

Osama said it was becuase of US support for Israel and 'unislamic' regimes in the middle east

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Yeah, the reasons for 9/11 were quite a bit more complex than just retaliation for a single incident.

I'd just like to mention/rub in the fact that we don't have any of that patriot act wiretapping NSA bullshit going on and we still caught the dudes.

:O

 

[DeusExMachina]

Well our government is full of incompetent jackasses. And boobs.

 

[CptStern]

Along with the foiled attack in Britain, it's good to see, intelligence services able to detect and stop these planned attacks




Osama said it was becuase of US support for Israel and 'unislamic' regimes in the middle east

it was a series of things but the plan for 9/11 came after the bombing of the training camp as a means of direct retaliation

 

[B_MAN]

I'd just like to mention/rub in the fact that we don't have any of that patriot act wiretapping NSA bullshit going on and we still caught the dudes.

:O

made me

 

[Lemonking]

funny how no one ever asks why they wanted to do this ..just saying they're sympathetic to al qaeda does nothing except spread fear. The very first thing police do when there's a crime is establish motive ..police would never be satisfied with the weak justification that it's a "protest against the treatment of muslims" ...usually people who plan to kill someone have more concrete motivations

posts like that make me see what you really are.

 

[CptStern]

:upstare: and what is that? terrorist/gamer/family man?

 

[JNightshade]

I think the word he's looking for is "realistic".

 

[Lemonking]

I think I,d rather keep that to myself.


edit: family man? are you kidding me? 12 hours a day in front of a PC?



lolz

 

[DeusExMachina]

Good, that's probably for the best.

 

[CptStern]

oh come on now, you cant just hint at something and then not follow through ...it's like having sex with your girlfriend, who bites your weiner right before you're done :O

 

[99.vikram]

By all means

 

[DeusExMachina]

oh come on now, you cant just hint at something and then not follow through ...it's like having sex with your girlfriend, who bites your weiner right before you're done :O

LOL.

Ahem.

 

[Hondo]

Nobody ever said that the targets the bad guys choose to terrorize made any sense. Think about it, right now the people getting suicide bombed the most are the Iraqi people, who as far as I can tell are nothing but victims here.

 

[Lemonking]

so they wanted to build a bomb for...fun?

 

[pvtbones]

so they wanted to build a bomb for...fun?

maybe they wanted to rob a bakery and they thought a bomb was a good way to do it? :O

 

[Ome_Vince]

/me wonders what women and children are doing in Al Qaeda training camps...

 

[Lemonking]

exsactl.

 

[15357]

funny how no one ever asks why they wanted to do this ..just saying they're sympathetic to al qaeda does nothing except spread fear. The very first thing police do when there's a crime is establish motive ..police would never be satisfied with the weak justification that it's a "protest against the treatment of muslims" ...usually people who plan to kill someone have more concrete motivations

Uh.... because these people are insane and want to kill people for their god?

 

[Solaris]

Uh.... because these people are insane and want to kill people for their god?

Maybe.
But why the hell bomb spain, when they new they were withdrawing. It's just stupid.

 

[CptStern]

/me wonders what women and children are doing in Al Qaeda training camps...

the camps were also semi permanent residences

do you people honestly believe the terrorists followed through on 9/11 because they're crazy/their god commanded them to?

 

[Mr Stabby]

they did it due to a strong resentment to US influence in the ME and support for Israel, religion is a unifying factor

I haven't seen any sources that indicate the bombing of terrorist training camps was the motive of the 9/11 attacks

 

[15357]

the camps were also semi permanent residences

do you people honestly believe the terrorists followed through on 9/11 because they're crazy/their god commanded them to?

I think killing a few thousand people because you disagree with a policy is pretty screwed up.

 

[Lemonking]

the camps were also semi permanent residences

do you people honestly believe the terrorists followed through on 9/11 because they're crazy/their god commanded them to?

apologist

 

[Mechagodzilla]

..says the holocaust denier.

What Stern is said is perfectly true.
The terrorists aren't insane. Nor are they purely religious fundamentalists. Their attacks are a retaliation of what they see as long-term abuses against their people by the US and the western world at large. Setting up bases in mideast countries and etc.
Their religious extremism only fuels that fire.

Just because they're amoral doesn't mean they are somehow inhuman.

 

[Lemonking]

..says the holocaust denier.

What Stern is said is perfectly true.
The terrorists aren't insane. Nor are they purely religious fundamentalists. Their attacks are a retaliation of what they see as long-term abuses against their people by the US and the western world at large. Setting up bases in mideast countries and etc.
Their religious extremism only fuels that fire.

Just because they're amoral doesn't mean they are somehow inhuman.

I question history,that doesnt make an apologist.