Cell: First Pictures

OMG I can't wait till IBM allows Apple to use this!

Apple will finally start getting the lead in the PC/MAC war.
 
The article is super cool,

PS3 2006 I am buying it 100%
 
gh0st said:
Hehehehhehhe good one.
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Well if AMD/Intel doesn't get on the Cell bandwagon...they will slowly lose market share.

People go for the fastest procs now'n days.
 
Tr0n said:
Well if AMD/Intel doesn't get on the Cell bandwagon...they will slowly lose market share.

People go for the fastest procs now'n days.
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Yeah.. the fastest. Like the pentium 4? :rolling: Depends upon what demographic youre talking about. I'll believe you when I see cell motherboards, until then, it will just be powering my ps3. You dont see other console chips making a big breakthrough in the pc/mac world, why would these?
 
gh0st said:
Yeah.. the fastest. Like the pentium 4? :rolling: Depends upon what demographic youre talking about.
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Ok lets put it like this...Intel makes a ad saying their proc can go 4.0Ghz (even tho they decided not to go for that speed and work on diffrent technologies.).

Then say AMD unlike Intel decided to join the CELL bandwagon and they made a ad saying their proc that can go up to 8Ghz and has all this fancy stuff on it.

Now since how the cell proc is made it's whole lot cheaper...unlike the x86 version.

So the Intel one cost about $600 and then the AMD one cost about $699.

Which one do you think the average joe is gonna go for?

(Oh and btw...the latest Intel proc isn't the fastest currently...it's the AMD64.)
 
gh0st said:
You dont see other console chips making a big breakthrough in the pc/mac world, why would these?
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Well thats it tho...it ain't just a console chip...IBM (and it's partners) made it as an all around proc.

It can work in PDA's, cell phones, consoles, and desktop pcs.

Here is the article that explains.

http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell0.html
 
Hype. Im sure most of you remember the "Emotion Engine". :dozey: Come on. I'll believe it when I see it running real-time game demos at E3. Not demos with spinning cubes, triangles and such. A real time game environment.
 
Of course some boasts are hype, but you've got to see through that and see it for what it really is ... and when you do, you'll realise that the potential of cell computing could (and probably will) revolutionise hardware.
 
Tr0n said:
Well if AMD/Intel doesn't get on the Cell bandwagon...they will slowly lose market share.

People go for the fastest procs now'n days.
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But it'll still be in a MAC. That still makes a world of a difference to the average user.
 
I strongly believe, that if all this is true, UE 3.0 is extremely lame from now on :E

Edit: And YAY! Maybe we can get that console port of Half-Life 2 now lol.
 
destrukt said:
But it'll still be in a MAC. That still makes a world of a difference to the average user.
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Well what I said can also be compared with a mac.

Apple makes an ad and blah blah...I don't feel like re-typing it again, but you get my point.

Read that article I posted and you guys would understand more.

Edit:Here

http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell0.html
 
If game developers will have to make dramatic changes to how they have to program games to make them work with Cell technology then I am really unsure if Sony is making a smart move here. If developers don't want to have to bother with massive amounts of time and money spent porting things over specifically for Cell technology then I fear the PS3 will have a very small number of 3rd party games.
 
Good point Mull, and plus at the end it talks about the architecture is going to give plenty of opportunity for bugs and
"they take compatibility and throw it out the window". I dont know about you but my ps2 has always had problems, but Ive heard of sony being accused of purposely jacking with the quality of ps2s to get more money, so I sure as hell dont trust sony.
 
mchammer75040 said:
Good point Mull, and plus at the end it talks about the architecture is going to give plenty of opportunity for bugs and
"they take compatibility and throw it out the window". I dont know about you but my ps2 has always had problems, but Ive heard of sony being accused of purposely jacking with the quality of ps2s to get more money, so I sure as hell dont trust sony.
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yeah I also heard that and the true I dont trust in sony even if I like my PS2

but are people that look like more espert on computing that say that the cell thing will be like a beast,and lets hope that
 
Blah wish I would have gotten my degree in computer science and not business admin so I could understand all this a lil better hehe :rolling: but I must admit from what I can understand this does seem mighty interesting definitely a good time to be a gamer. :E
 
The Mullinator said:
If game developers will have to make dramatic changes to how they have to program games to make them work with Cell technology then I am really unsure if Sony is making a smart move here. If developers don't want to have to bother with massive amounts of time and money spent porting things over specifically for Cell technology then I fear the PS3 will have a very small number of 3rd party games.
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Or it'll be the other way around. They'll all go to Sony & won't bother with porting over to M$ & Nintendo :) The PS2 was hard to program for (Who programs in Assembler anyway?) in the first place & not that many have publically complained about it. I've only heard Namco & Konami (I think) express their feelings on the subject. And that was when the PS2 new & Namco had to super rush out their Ridge Racer game.
 
Tr0n said:
Well if AMD/Intel doesn't get on the Cell bandwagon...they will slowly lose market share.

People go for the fastest procs now'n days.
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In this community, I find us gamers are a bit more cost-effective than you're giving them credit for. My processor certainly wasn't the fastest, but it runs everything I have flawlessly. GO to newegg.com...I certainlly don't see Sony, Toshiba or IBM processors listed. They'd have a long and relativly impossible road to travel if they think they're going to nab market share from Intel or AMD....plus...if you don't honestly believe they have something up their sleeves to combat what I've dubbed "Emotion Part 2"...you're crazy.....especially if they plan to enter the PC market.

I've noticed even normal folks are getting smarter, they ask their computer buddy who has some knowledge they may not. They're not about to go out and dump 3-5 grand on a top of the line Apple because it uses the cell architecture....that's ludicrous. The PC market is at saturation....all demand is for replacement...few people are just NOW entering the market. People are wising up and know they don't need the fastest thing on the planet to help them with their various tasks. But that's all up to marketing....It'll take some work to win enough people over to crack Intel and AMD's fortress of market share.
 
Alec_85 said:
Or it'll be the other way around. They'll all go to Sony & won't bother with porting over to M$ & Nintendo :) The PS2 was hard to program for (Who programs in Assembler anyway?) in the first place & not that many have publically complained about it. I've only heard Namco & Konami (I think) express their feelings on the subject. And that was when the PS2 new & Namco had to super rush out their Ridge Racer game.
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It is possible but it all comes down to whether or not the PS3 will have an immediate and overwhelming success upon its release. If it ends up doing as well against the other consoles as it did with the PS2 then it may happen. However if the other consoles end up with more immediate success then developers won't bother porting stuff over for a minority of gamers.

However I currently think that if developers end up developing solely for the PS3 for too many titles then it will definately hurt the gaming industry as a whole.
 
The hardest thing is making the consumer market (AKA you and me) buy it. And then getting the commercial market (AKA Microsoft) to make software for it (And Windows would be a main thing, you'd need a totally new version of XP to even run a Cell PC sure Linux'll probably have a Cell distro or two but you can't do THAT much in Linux :P)

And if I recall, Sony have clearly stated they do not want people like Microsoft and Apple making software/other gubbins for the Cell as they want to have full control over it.

Which seems like shooting self in the foot time.

It'll probably stay in the PS3 and won't be the big revolution that they all say. Although I could be proven wrong....
 
Venmoch said:
The hardest thing is making the consumer market (AKA you and me) buy it. And then getting the commercial market (AKA Microsoft) to make software for it (And Windows would be a main thing, you'd need a totally new version of XP to even run a Cell PC sure Linux'll probably have a Cell distro or two but you can't do THAT much in Linux :P)

And if I recall, Sony have clearly stated they do not want people like Microsoft and Apple making software/other gubbins for the Cell as they want to have full control over it.

Which seems like shooting self in the foot time.

It'll probably stay in the PS3 and won't be the big revolution that they all say. Although I could be proven wrong....
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Heh, if they really are planning this then when it comes to the gaming industry I see only two potential outcomes:

1. Developers are unwilling to develop for this new technology and it ends up being a complete flop.

2. It ends up getting a majority of the gaming market and other consoles suffer greviously. PC gaming drops and PC hardware companies suffer as a result.

Or its something somewhere in between those two extremes. Either way it doesn't look good though.
 
Duel core P4's anyone...

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71545,

dun duh.. duh! PC's in 2005 = 2x faster, there going to close on 8 - 10 gig Processors's :o.

I thought id link this, just to comfort PC users. remember now, everything moves along with each other, it just so happens its all looking good , PS3, Xbox 2 , woot
 
Interesting but by the time the ps3 comes out pc will have something to compare to.
 
I was just reading an article on MSNBC on the new Cell processor. Here's a quote that I found interesting because it reflects my views thus far:



The Cell’s specifications also suggest the PlayStation 3 will offer realistic graphics and strong performance. But analysts cautioned that not all the features in a product announcement will find their way into all systems built on the device.

“Any new technology like this has two components,” Kleynhans said. “It has the vision of what it could be because you need the big vision to sell it. Then there’s the reality of how it’s really going to be used, which generally several levels down the chain from there.”

So, like I said, don't get too hyped up. I hope im wrong though. Maybe it'll easily be able to render scenes close to what has been shown on the Unreal 3 Engine. All will be shown in due time though. :)
 
Tr0n said:
(Oh and btw...the latest Intel proc isn't the fastest currently...it's the AMD64.)
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The whole comparison is, no one cares about performance. The reason intel is still in business is that people want more MEGAZHURTZ LOL than other people. That doesnt mean better performance. Like was said before, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Other processor manufactures are also making multi core processers... they just havnt been shouting about it.

Least thats what I read on the BBC site. :)
 
I apologise for not understanding alot of this.....but what are all these new consoles supposivly gonna offer graphics wise are we looking at unreal 3.0 type graphics in these systems to come?
 
Agent.M said:
I apologise for not understanding alot of this.....but what are all these new consoles supposivly gonna offer graphics wise are we looking at unreal 3.0 type graphics in these systems to come?
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Maybe. I think we're likely to see that on the second gen of software when the devs become more comfortable with developing next gen titles. Initially though? Probably not.

Im anxious to see what they'll be able to pull off.
 
Vigilante said:
The revolution will be more amazing.
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uhuh :dozey:
Have to wait and see i guess...
Im getting tired of waiting for stuff
 
Erm... those Processors cannot be cheap to produce. If they go into the PS3, aren't SONY going to have to sell impossible ammounts of software for each console sold to recouperate their loses, or are they just planning to release the PS3 with a $750 price tag?
 
Vigilante said:
The revolution will be more amazing.
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A little early don't ya think? Wait for all three systems to show something.
 
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