CHavez says he has proof the US is planning to invade Venezuela

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Chavez: US plans to invade


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez (search) said Friday he has documentary evidence that the United States plans to invade his country.

Chavez, interviewed on ABC's "Nightline," said the plan is called "Balboa" and involves aircraft carriers and planes. A transcript of the interview was made available by "Nightline."
 
im gonna file this under "things the administration doesnt need right now", so basically I hope it is true and takes the limelight, I mean if anyone can handle crisis its Bushy here, as long as it doesn't interrupt a vacation...
 
I don't see any proof? I see suspicion.


Besides, at this point in time, invasion seems so unrealistic a prospect. First we're gonna invade Iran, now we're gonna invade Venezuela, next we're invading Canada and Mexico!


Not to mention the citizen base would never stand for it. I don't want anymore wars.
 
Sounds to me like Mr. Chavez is trying to blackmail the US into giving stuff to his country to avoid a massive media smear, whether it's true or not. It seems an unlikely plan, but not impossible. :eek:

"We will be ready." :LOL:
 
Chavez is stupid, this is a damn publicity stunt, and I hope to God he doesn;t get anything out of it... besides, there's no reason to invade, I have a feeling on of his own people will off him
 
chavez is scum, he offered help for katrina just to pretend to be 'nice'

hes a wanker
 
chavez is scum, he offered help for katrina just to pretend to be 'nice'

hes a wanker

I thought he seriously offered aid, the government just rejected it. I dont know the guy, but you must of met him if you know hes a wanker.
 
Well...if he wants us to invade..... well maybe later....we have more important tasks at hand....like Bush going to the bathroom and Bush trying to figure out where Osama Bin Laden is by blindfolding himself, and throwing a dart on a map to invade and check.
 
Minerel said:
Well...if he wants us to invade..... well maybe later....we have more important tasks at hand....like Bush going to the bathroom and Bush trying to figure out where Osama Bin Laden is by blindfolding himself, and throwing a dart on a map to invade and check.

Jesus, man, didn't you hear? OBL is in Venezuela eating grilled cheese as we speak. Get with the program.
 
emm...isn't venezuela one of the largest oil suppliers in the world?
 
jverne said:
emm...isn't venezuela one of the largest oil suppliers in the world?
That may, very well be the reason behind this.

but whatever, it's unlikly that the US will invade another country in the near future as they've got to clear up the messes they made in Afgahnistan and Iraq first and also it looks like any money that may have been ear marked for invading Iran/Venezuela/France will get used in the rebuilding of the areas affected by hurricane Katrina.
 
Bob_Marley said:
That may, very well be the reason behind this.

but whatever, it's unlikly that the US will invade another country in the near future as they've got to clear up the messes they made in Afgahnistan and Iraq first and also it looks like any money that may have been ear marked for invading Iran/Venezuela/France will get used in the rebuilding of the areas affected by hurricane Katrina.

How did you know about France?? Damn leakers.
 
I read top-secret official documents claiming that America has plans for invading itself.

True story.
 
Absinthe said:
I read top-secret official documents claiming that America has plans for invading itself.

True story.

Can't ANYBODY keep a secret, FFS???!!!
 
Absinthe said:
I didn't read top-secret official documents claiming that America doesn't have plans for invading anywhere at all.

True story.

Shush.
 
venezuela ...home to the third largest producers of oil in the world ...guess what country is #2? Iraq ..guess which country is #1? Saudi Arabia ...ya I can see how there's no reason for invading ..oh and the US has been involved in south/central america for over 50 years ...niceragua, panama, el salvador, honduras etc etc etc

lemonking
Korebolter
Icarusintel


the 3 of you seem so convinced that Chavez is public enemy #1, a menace to society and scum that should be killed .......can you list your reasons please?
 
Well its obvious isn't it? He is socialist and anti-big business. Anyone with those traits should be killed, right? :upstare:
 
I never said that you >insert word here<,I said he was a nut


jesus christ man, The US doesnt even have the resources to Invade a other country

They wont
 
staticprimer said:
Well its obvious isn't it? He is socialist and anti-big business. Anyone with those traits should be killed, right? :upstare:

err, nooo..........


I say that the US should invade venezuela because I'm bored. :p
 
Only real reason to invade would be to put <RJMC> out of his misery...
 
CptStern said:
the 3 of you seem so convinced that Chavez is public enemy #1, a menace to society and scum that should be killed .......can you list your reasons please?
wow, i didn't say any such thing, I said he was crazy for thinking we'd invade his country and that I personally think the whole thing is a publicity stunt... he's not public enemy #1, he's not even a blip on the radar, but he wants to be, which is why he's pulling this shit... i wouldn;t be surprised if he starts committing human rights atrocities if this stunt doesn;t work
 
Icarusintel said:
wow, i didn't say any such thing, I said he was crazy for thinking we'd invade his country and that I personally think the whole thing is a publicity stunt... he's not public enemy #1, he's not even a blip on the radar, but he wants to be, which is why he's pulling this shit...

I was being tongue in cheek ..I didnt literally mean public enemy #1 ..that's osama isnt it? just trying to understand why you dislike him


Icarusintel said:
i wouldn;t be surprised if he starts committing human rights atrocities if this stunt doesn;t work


hmmm so if venezuela does get invaded he'll kill a whack of innocent people? ...or is it: if they dont invade he'll kill a whole whack of people? ..a little silly dont you think?

but I'm looking for more concrete evidence of why you think he's stupid ..I mean he says he has documented proof ..what if it turns out to be right? what possible justification could lead to an invasion?
 
CptStern said:
I was being tongue in cheek ..I didnt literally mean public enemy #1 ..that's osama isnt it? just trying to understand why you dislike him

hmmm so if venezuela does get invaded he'll kill a whack of innocent people? ...or is it: if they dont invade he'll kill a whole whack of people? ..a little silly dont you think?

but I'm looking for more concrete evidence of why you think he's stupid ..I mean he says he has documented proof ..what if it turns out to be right? what possible justification could lead to an invasion?
I dislike him because he seems like all he wants is attention, when he should be focusing solely on making the lives of the citizens in his country better

No, he'll start killing and torturing people if he doesn;t get invaded.. he seems confrontational to me, and I wouldn;t be surprised if he tries to press the US into an invasion, which we won;t do because we have no good reason to go in (oil isn;t even an excuse, else we'd have invaded Saudi Arabia by now)
I'm sure there is some type of plan for invading every country on earth in the hands of the US gov't, and they're all for what-if scenarios, my guess is he got his hands on the one for Venezuela and took it as proof the US was gonna invade, when all it is was some desk jockey going over various possibilities
 
Icarusintel said:
I dislike him because he seems like all he wants is attention, when he should be focusing solely on making the lives of the citizens in his country better

so you dislike him because he's vain? come on you can do better than that

Icarusintel said:
No, he'll start killing and torturing people if he doesn;t get invaded..


you cant possibly believe that ..not only is it highly irrational but it's also highly illogical ...it just makes no sense whatsoever ..what makes you think he would kill his own people if the US doesnt invade?

Icarusintel said:
he seems confrontational to me, and I wouldn;t be surprised if he tries to press the US into an invasion,


that makes no sense why would anyone press for an invasion? wouldnt he be disposed, thrown in jail and maybe even killed if there was an invasion? who would wish that upon themselves?



Icarusintel said:
(oil isn;t even an excuse, else we'd have invaded Saudi Arabia by now)


proves to me how little you know ...why is osama so dead on destroying the US? where is he originally from? why has the bin laden family disavowed him? why is the Bush clan business partners with many saudis including the Bin laden family?


Icarusintel said:
I'm sure there is some type of plan for invading every country on earth in the hands of the US gov't, and they're all for what-if scenarios, my guess is he got his hands on the one for Venezuela and took it as proof the US was gonna invade, when all it is was some desk jockey going over various possibilities


the US has a huge stake in venezuela ..if Chavez cuts off oil ...you're screwed ..venezuela is a gleaming pearl ripe for the taking ..the US has a long history of making sure the puppet regimes have the US best interests in mind ..Chavez goes contrary to that
 
Icarus, I'm wondering where this riddled logic is coming from.

If he doesn't get invaded, he'll kill his own people.
If he doesn't get invaded, he'll press the USA into doing it.

I'm really not seeing the link between these things.
 
Ya I think I lost whatever little respect I had for Chavez at this point. It seems pretty obvious to me that he just wants attention from the international stage and support in his own country to be firmly against the US. Hes just taking advantage of the fact that citizens in most countries including his own are extremelly gullible.
 
Absinthe said:
Icarus, I'm wondering where this riddled logic is coming from.

If he doesn't get invaded, he'll kill his own people.
If he doesn't get invaded, he'll press the USA into doing it.

I'm really not seeing the link between these things.
I'm going off what I see, and all I've seen him act like, at least from what I can gather, is confrontational and attention-whorish. He seems to not give much of a damn about what the world thinks of him, which certainly doesn;t help his country. Of course maybe this is just what the media wants me to see, and since I'm more concerned about getting good grades than reasing for hours on end about Venezuela, that's all I get.
Also, as much as he's trying not to seem like a dictator, I see it going that route, and fast...
 
chavez has a right to be paranoid ..the US has been breathing down his neck for years
 
We're America, it's what we do. Deal with it.

And on a second note:

I'd be surprised if we DIDN'T have a plan to invade every country in existance. I bet there's a file cabinet, somewhere in our govermental confines, that's organized A-Z with plans to invade each and every country. At least, I hope there is.
 
Top Secret said:
We're America, it's what we do. Deal with it.

And on a second note:

I'd be surprised if we DIDN'T have a plan to invade every country in existance. I bet there's a file cabinet, somewhere in our govermental confines, that's organized A-Z with plans to invade each and every country. At least, I hope there is.
I am 99% certain that the US does. I mean the government ever since the cold war has always been planning on ways of dealing with just about any kind of situation that anyone could ever think of from Alien invasions to secret armies in various countries, to plagues.

If this plan that Chavez says he has discovered does exist then I am pretty certain its one of many plans developed for every country.
 
I expect contingency plans for every nation.

Doesn't mean their public knowledge is any less unsettling to those they involve.
 
The Mullinator said:
I am 99% certain that the US does. I mean the government ever since the cold war has always been planning on ways of dealing with just about any kind of situation that anyone could ever think of from Alien invasions to secret armies in various countries, to plagues.

If this plan that Chavez says he has discovered does exist then I am pretty certain its one of many plans developed for every country.

yes but going on track record alone in that part of the world (regime changes in Honduras, El Salvador, Panama, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, and Nicaragua) I think it's on the "most likely to invade" list
 
were those regime changes accompanied by open invasion as well? I'm just asking.
 
jonbob said:
were those regime changes accompanied by open invasion as well? I'm just asking.


no most were CIA operations but there was Panama. Panama was invaded to overthrow a tyrant of the US's making: Manuel Noriega. Noriega was a paid stooge for the CIA since 66 ..till of course he was no longer of use. Sounds familiar doesnt it
 
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