China harvesting organs of political prisoners

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I've seen this news cropping up over the last few months can't really believe it.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060323-114842-5680r.htm
http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/18784/China_Slaughtering_Political_Prisoners_For_Organs
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/07/06/china-falungong.html
Canadian officials have found evidence of yet another instance of gross human rights violations occurring within the People’s Republic of China. The sources of this information, described by Canadian officials as being “credible”, have outlined a government sanctioned program in which Chinese doctors harvest vital organs from political and religious prisoners – killing them in the process - and sell them to the public.
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If true i wouldn't be entirely shocked. This is a country that opened fire on pro-democracy protesters at tianamen square in 1989 killing hundreds, possibly thousands. Nobody actually knows how many were killed.

Honestly, what kind of ****ing world do we live in where this stuff happens. ****!!!
 
I am not all that surprised either unfortunately, but the ends here definitely don't justify the means.


Mr-Fusion said:
Honestly, what kind of ****ing world do we live in where this stuff happens. ****!!!
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The same world where stuff like Unit 731, Auschwitz, The Rape of Nanking, The Bataan Death March, Daniel Pearl(etc), Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Rwanda, Darfur, The Khmer Rouge, 9/11, and The Iraq War happen. Still, its got a lot of good left too thankfully, but no one likes to hear about it because it doesn't sell.
 
the cbc story (I'm assuming it was first reported on the Cbc because it originated from canada) doesnt mention that the prisoners were alive at the time of organ removal ..it specifically states that the organs come from executed prisoners (I am in no way supporting organ harvesting under any circumstances)
 
Meh. Commies. Evil.



However, I don't think there is much of an ethical problem with harvesting organs from dead people. However, they seem to be executing to get the the organs, which is what evil communists do in their spare time, so thats bad. Horrible.
 
This was supposed to have been made illegal in China a while ago, but as usual the laws are not followed. They call it corruption, and I don't think clamping down on this activity is high on their priority list.
 
I already knew about unit 731, but seeing that shit again is no less shocking :x
 
I first read the title of this thread as "China having orgasms".
 
if you harvest my organ... may it fail on you!
 
and now you've gone and blown any sympathy we might have felt for you
 
ya what a glorious day that was :upstare: ...shut up
 
Oh alright, that's fine then. Celebrating the death of thousands isn't very cool.
 
Damn, there is far difference between Unit 731 and harvest of organs in China.
China is bad. But Unit 731 is crazy!
 
Organ harvesting of dead prisoners seems almost like a normal thing when compared to that.
 
Personally, I don't think that taking organs from dead prisoners is wrong as long as they wern't killed for that purpose. Sure it's sorta creepy, but would you rather let someone who's still alive die because the heart they needed wasn't available? That's what doesn't seem right to me.

Regardless, that Unit 731 shit is absolutely horrifying. GG humanity D:
 
Yes, Organ harvesting of dead prisoners (not living) is not bad at all. Even though, to a certain extent, havesting dead prisoners without their own permission is quite immoral, we must not deny that this helps a lot of people. Everyday, there are so many people need a organ transfer. If the every prisoner donate all of their organs, no matter voluntarily or passively, hundreds of people will be saved. With the prisoners' organs, perhaps some dedicating people, like scientists, writers, composers, etc, will be saved from desparate illness. We can see how important harvesting organs from prisoners are.

In view of Buddhism, those prisoners have done something bad in their left, if they can contribute something to the sociaty after they died, those good things will compensate for those bad. They will be treated better in their afterlife.
 
In view of Buddhism, those prisoners have done something bad in their left, if they can contribute something to the sociaty after they died, those good things will compensate for those bad. They will be treated better in their afterlife.
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Hey, thats exactly my views on life! :D

We can see how important harvesting organs from prisoners are.
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Oh yes, but why do you have to sell them for $30,000 apiece? We had a documentary on Koreans going to China to get organs.

And, We can see how important having prisoners are. :p
 
15357 said:
Oh yes, but why do you have to sell them for $30,000 apiece? We had a documentary on Koreans going to China to get organs.
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That's why it is immoral. When the prisoner got their organs harvested, his family won't be paid. :p

Okay, no joke. Harvesting organs from dead prisoners is better than getting organs from a living person, since the operation is danger. We don't want to kill a healthy person.
 
Indeed.


And lol. Organ transplant operations don't matter if its dangerous. The guy dies anyway, because they're missing an organ. :p
 
15357 said:
Indeed.


And lol. Organ transplant operations don't matter if its dangerous. The guy dies anyway, because they're missing an organ. :p
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No, the donor is not necessarily dead. A person can donate one of his kidneys, parts of his skin, or 3/4 of his liver. The donor won't die, he can live the rest of his life healthily, like they have never done the surgery.
 
15357 said:
Well, except for that.
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I think we can donate bones also. You're right. I guess there is nothing more we can donate. Some essential organs need to be taken from dead. :rolleyes:
 
CptStern said:
ya what a glorious day that was :upstare: ...shut up
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But then, most Western countries celebrate the surrender of Japan, Germany and their ilk.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
But then, most Western countries celebrate the surrender of Japan, Germany and their ilk.
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Italy celebrated when France lost in the World Cup.
 
bbson_john said:
Italy celebrated when France lost in the World Cup.
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I think that was more to do with the fact that Italy won.
 
Angry Lawyer said:
But then, most Western countries celebrate the surrender of Japan, Germany and their ilk.

-Angry Lawyer
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in the case of japan over 200,000 civilians died in an instant ...there is no cause to celebrate ..I dont care what the justification is/was
 
CptStern said:
in the case of japan over 200,000 civilians died in an instant ...there is no cause to celebrate ..I dont care what the justification is/was
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Perhap if the 200,000 civilians hadn't die, there would have 2,000,000 civilians of different countries died.
 
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