Christian group accuses Hasbro of pushing "gay agenda" in video game

[CptStern]

Conservative Christian site World Net Daily is running a report on Hasbro's The Game of Life, with claims that it is "pushing the homosexual agenda" by allowing same-sex marriage in the game.


Perhaps promoting gay marriage in a game aimed at kids is not the best idea, since they're too young to think about sexuality. Of course, had this game actually promoted gay marriage, there'd be a debate. The Game of Life does NOT promote such a thing, it merely allows it, should a person choose to do so. Not restricting a thing is not the same as "pushing" it.

http://www.destructoid.com/christian-conservatives-attack-gay-agenda-in-pc-game-124725.phtml

this is pretty good publicity for hasbro as it makes this group sound retarded which is what they are

"OMG THEY CAN CHOOSE THE PINK PEG!!!"

 

[Leto]

Ha Ha, I love that game.

My friend managed to get like 2 cars full of kids once.

But yeah, just another christian group freaking out over nothing.

 

[Raziaar]

The Game of Life...

Man I loved that game... haven't been able to play it in forever though because the board we had was messed up and all the pieces were gone and I think other stuff was missing.

Just like life.

 

[Solaris]

There's plenty of java applets for it.

 

[Warped]

LOL in the bible it says mankind was given free choice but then again Christians wouldn't know what free means do they??

 

[Escaep]

LOL in the bible it says mankind was given free choice but then again Christians wouldn't know what free means do they??

You're an idiot. :dozey:

 

[Tyguy]

gay rights!!! waaahoooooooo i love gays!!!


gay sex in the classroom!!!!!!

 

[Krynn72]

Gay sex all over my penis!!!!

 

[Tyguy]

gay sex is beautiful, and any nay-sayers are sexist fiends!

 

[jet_porkins]

And another religious political thread in ruins!

 

[mortiz-Redux]

I've had my gay agenda pushed :naughty:

 

[Saturos]

If people would just keep their own preferences in their OWN back yard, we wouldn't have these sort of problems, no matter if your gay, conservative christian, or a gay christian.

It's when others try to force their beliefs down my throat and invade my personal space when I have a problem. It's all about respect and humility. People just don't have either anymore. For themselves or others. If these christians really wanted their kids to NOT be gay, they should teach them this as parents and not raise such a commotion in public media while disrespecting others who are gay.

Just like when recently a community consisting of a majority of christians with deep-rooted traditions was overturned because the locals didn't approve of a couple's daughter being openly gay at a public school. Why not just move somewhere where something like this is largely approved of such as San Francisco or Key West?

Same too if some christians moved to a community where the majority is largely gay or liberal and tried to overturn their way of life. It's just not right.

It all boils down to respect and people just don't have any these days. Instead everyone with influence has an agenda. Here's what I would tell these schemers, "I don't give a shit, just don't step on my toes and we won't have a problem".

Put it like this, if you were to invite someone to you home and they tried to change all the rules in your house and then blatantly tells you your cooking sucks, wouldn't you be just a little upset? I may not be the only one here who feels this way, but this is how I roll.

The same principle applies for communities. As long as you respect the customs established, then there wouldn't be any problem.

If only more christians and liberals would think like this. The never-ending struggle for power and influence is getting ridiculous.

 

[Krynn72]

Saturos: 100% Pro-Censoring!

Hes some tidbits of information you seem to be lacking sir.

1. Everyone has an agenda. Not just "people of influence," everyone. Yes, even you. Its in human nature to want to shape the world as we see fit. Nobody can help it.

2. You cant teach someone not to be gay.

3. Censoring the matter will not help the matter. People need to learn to accept each other, not hide from each other.

4. Segregation is also not going to help the matter. I know from your previous posts that you're gung-ho about segregating people by race, sexual affiliation and financial status, but thats a stupid idea and has been proven several times throughout history as being an unsuccessful technique. Putting all the gays in one place isnt going to help humanity at all. It actually has quite the opposite effect.

 

[Jintor]

Just like when recently a community consisting of a majority of christians with deep-rooted traditions was overturned because the locals didn't approve of a couple's daughter being openly gay at a public school. Why not just move somewhere where something like this is largely approved of such as San Francisco or Key West?

Saturos: approving of 'Gay Zones' since July 2007.

Seriously, you don't see the idiocy of what you just said? I'm going to mark aside this part of the city, and if you're gay you're going to live there. I'm going to mark aside this part of the city, and if you're Asian you're going to live there. I'm going to mark aside this part of the city, and if you're Jewish you're going to live there.

Dude, segregation is not the answer. Perhaps it would cause less conflict in the short term, but in the long term it's just going to reinforce further prejudice and bias in those who are prejudiced and biased.

 

[Acepilotf14]

Gays are people, too.
Don't forget that.

 

[Asknoone]

If people would just keep their own preferences in their OWN back yard, we wouldn't have these sort of problems, no matter if your gay, conservative christian, or a gay christian.

It's when others try to force their beliefs down my throat and invade my personal space when I have a problem. It's all about respect and humility. People just don't have either anymore. For themselves or others. If these christians really wanted their kids to NOT be gay, they should teach them this as parents and not raise such a commotion in public media while disrespecting others who are gay.

Just like when recently a community consisting of a majority of christians with deep-rooted traditions was overturned because the locals didn't approve of a couple's daughter being openly gay at a public school. Why not just move somewhere where something like this is largely approved of such as San Francisco or Key West?

Same too if some christians moved to a community where the majority is largely gay or liberal and tried to overturn their way of life. It's just not right.

It all boils down to respect and people just don't have any these days. Instead everyone with influence has an agenda. Here's what I would tell these schemers, "I don't give a shit, just don't step on my toes and we won't have a problem".

Put it like this, if you were to invite someone to you home and they tried to change all the rules in your house and then blatantly tells you your cooking sucks, wouldn't you be just a little upset? I may not be the only one here who feels this way, but this is how I roll.

The same principle applies for communities. As long as you respect the customs established, then there wouldn't be any problem.

If only more christians and liberals would think like this. The never-ending struggle for power and influence is getting ridiculous.

See, now this is why we don't listen to stupid people.

 

[Danimal]

Psst, Samon.

We should roll him in the alley.

You down?

 

[mortiz-Redux]

Gays are people, too.
Don't forget that.

lies, gays are alien's from outter space, as this short proves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbi7ZIqDJ1I&feature=related

 

[Asknoone]

Psst, Samon.

We should roll him in the alley.

You down?

Down.

 

[Saturos]

Perhaps it would cause less conflict in the short term, but in the long term it's just going to reinforce further prejudice and bias in those who are prejudiced and biased.

I didn't say enforce this. I mean just use it as a guideline. What about people who want to be segregated and left alone?

See, now this is why we don't listen to stupid people.

You know, insulting other people without constructive criticism isn't very intelligent either. How about some strong counter points instead?

You people don't know how to debate. You all act like a bunch of spoiled brats when someone doesn't agree with you. How do you expect credibility from someone who is reserved, calm, and professional when you act like that? If you want to prove something, you've got to do it in a presentable and professional manner.

Thing is, I don't flip my wig and call others stupid if I don't agree with them. It's like people here expect me to be tolerant for their preferences and ideas when they themselves are intolerant of mine. I smell BS. One-sided and agenda driven BS. This is exactly what I was talking about. No respect for other people's ideas regardless of how absurd it may seem to them.

EDIT> It's not about being fair, it's all just part of their little BS scheme for more influence and control. I just love how people think they can take advantage and manipulate me and my opinions to suit their own. I think many people mistake kindness and hospitality as a sign of weakness.
Goddamnit Samon , see what you've done?! you've managed to piss me off while making me lose my composer!!!

The most decent counter arguement so far is probably Jintor's. I actually see some relevance and a good point there in his post, and rather than attacking me directly, he attacks my idea and gives a strong argument to complement his own. This is more professional tbh.

The rest of you are amateurs. :hmph:

 

[Krynn72]

Firstly, I lol'd at "composer."

Secondly, you're being redundant and not listening to what others say.

"One-sided and agenda driven BS. This is exactly what I was talking about."

Like I said before, everyone has an agenda so stop complaining about it. Its futile.

Thirdly, 90% of people wouldn't need an explanation as to why you are wrong, because anyone who had a modicum of education that stuck with them will know that segregation will not work. Not ever, nor in any capacity what-so-ever. Read some books or go back to 7th grade history class. There comes a point where someone's arguments are so stupid and insane that there is no use making a proper rebuttal for them, and all that's left to do is to try and prevent yourself from spiraling into a deep depression at the thought that people like you exist. We've gotten into arguments with you before. You've been flat out wrong on several occasions and no matter how much factual data, no matter how much common sense, and no matter how rational or logical our arguments are, you refuse to be enlightened. You keep yourself in your ignorant and isolated little world where up is down no matter how many times you're proven wrong.

Whats a person to do when confronted by such a person as yourself? The only route you have left for us to take is that of mocking you and making jokes at your expense in an effort to comfort ourselves in the face of utterly mind boggling stupidity. We've tried it your way, and it failed miserably.

 

[mortiz-Redux]

Goddamnit Samon , see what you've done?! you've managed to piss me off while making me lose my composer!!!

Found him!

 

[Sheepo]

Gays are people, too.
Don't forget that.

Hahahahaha.

Good one.

 

[dream431ca]

I'm a Christian and have no problem with gay people. In fact know some gay people. Just ignore these fools.

 

[Sheepo]

You just think they're going to burn in hell for the sick and unnatural lifestyle they've chosen is all.

 

[jet_porkins]

^^

You care what others think...why?

 

[Sheepo]

Is this a trick question?

 

[Krynn72]

Its a magic trick question.

Spoiler

Ta-Da! A Rabbit!

 

[Saturos]

Firstly, I lol'd at "composer."

composeur, composer, I know there's an adjective for that word somewhere. I'm too lazy to look up the proper spelling right now.

Secondly, you're being redundant and not listening to what others say.

Why should I listen? All I ever get is flames. I'm willing to talk about these things as long as people don't whine and flame all the time.

Like I said before, everyone has an agenda so stop complaining about it. Its futile.

Even if that agenda means "go away" for some people? Seriously, it urks me how some would just like to keep to themselves and yet someone comes in and turns their world upside down.

Thirdly, 90% of people wouldn't need an explanation as to why you are wrong, because anyone who had a modicum of education that stuck with them will know that segregation will not work. Not ever, nor in any capacity what-so-ever.

That's one of many parts of human nature. I can agree with that.

Read some books or go back to 7th grade history class.

...and be spoon fed a revised history lesson re-written for the sake of political correctness? You can't just agree with everything that's in some hardback history book. You've got to ask yourself some questions and think on your own once in a while.

There comes a point where someone's arguments are so stupid and insane that there is no use making a proper rebuttal for them, and all that's left to do is to try and prevent yourself from spiraling into a deep depression at the thought that people like you exist.

I'm sorry. The blunt truth hurts doesn't it? It really wasn't my intention to hurt anyone's feelings though.

We've gotten into arguments with you before. You've been flat out wrong on several occasions and no matter how much factual data, no matter how much common sense, and no matter how rational or logical our arguments are, you refuse to be enlightened. You keep yourself in your ignorant and isolated little world where up is down no matter how many times you're proven wrong.

I never claimed I had the answers to everything, I'm just saying people should try to look at things from all angles and not just their own all the time.

Whats a person to do when confronted by such a person as yourself? The only route you have left for us to take is that of mocking you and making jokes at your expense in an effort to comfort ourselves in the face of utterly mind boggling stupidity. We've tried it your way, and it failed miserably.

Again, I didn't say my answer was definitive. I, like many people, am just really trying to dig up more questions.

 

[Asknoone]

Firstly, I lol'd at "composer."

Secondly, you're being redundant and not listening to what others say.

"One-sided and agenda driven BS. This is exactly what I was talking about."

Like I said before, everyone has an agenda so stop complaining about it. Its futile.

Thirdly, 90% of people wouldn't need an explanation as to why you are wrong, because anyone who had a modicum of education that stuck with them will know that segregation will not work. Not ever, nor in any capacity what-so-ever. Read some books or go back to 7th grade history class. There comes a point where someone's arguments are so stupid and insane that there is no use making a proper rebuttal for them, and all that's left to do is to try and prevent yourself from spiraling into a deep depression at the thought that people like you exist. We've gotten into arguments with you before. You've been flat out wrong on several occasions and no matter how much factual data, no matter how much common sense, and no matter how rational or logical our arguments are, you refuse to be enlightened. You keep yourself in your ignorant and isolated little world where up is down no matter how many times you're proven wrong.

Whats a person to do when confronted by such a person as yourself? The only route you have left for us to take is that of mocking you and making jokes at your expense in an effort to comfort ourselves in the face of utterly mind boggling stupidity. We've tried it your way, and it failed miserably.

This, basically.

 

[staticprimer]

I suppose Hasbro will have to add a line in the rule book stating "you may not put two of the same colored pegs in the front of your car or else be damned to hell for eternity" to make them happy.

 

[jet_porkins]

Is this a trick question?

Mainly what I'm getting at is that your comment implies a double-standard on Christian X's beliefs. If he opposes gay people, he's evil. If he has gay friends and has no problem with them, he's still evil.

Specifically my question would have to be, why do you care about his personal opinion if he has no problem with gay rights? If he is willing to support gay rights, why does it matter to you that he might still hold a negative belief about homosexuality? He's backing your agenda, you shouldn't care about what his opinions are, much less put words in his mouth in an effort to point out that you disagree with 'Christian religion.'

 

[Sheepo]

Well I think that virtually any priest or minister would probably tell him he isn't being true to his faith. You can't be pro gay rights and a legitimate christian. The ideas contradict each other.

 

[Saturos]

This, basically.

I like roast duck.

 

[Krynn72]

Of course you do. You're a dragon. Hello Albi!

 

[jet_porkins]

DISCLAIMER: You're a nice guy, I like you. Keep that in mind.

Well I think that virtually any priest or minister would probably tell him he isn't being true to his faith. You can't be pro gay rights and a legitimate christian. The ideas contradict each other.

Going out on a limb here.

Any born-again Christian will tell you that there are issues that do not affect a person's salvation. What he'll tell you is that it's faith that saves, not religion. The Bible says - and I know you know this - that whoever believes and accepts Jesus as their savior and chooses to stop living for themselves and start living for God's plan for their life (that is, repent) will have everlasting life.

It's that simple. Opposition to gay rights, abortion rights, stem cell research, or what not has NOTHING to do with it.

If I were to surrender my heart to Christ and live for His purpose, but then decide to say I'm pro-choice, is God going to reject me? No. That's a lie generated by religion. It doesn't matter if I support the right for gays to marry. I've surrendered myself to Christ. God's going to love me and use me anyhow.

I know someone's going to say it: "You're just cherry picking what to believe in the Bible." No. I'm not.

I'm pro-choice, but if a friend of mine wants to abort a baby, by God I will do what I can to try to show her she has other options, or comfort her, and show love and compassion for her despite whatever she might choose.

You can't be pro gay rights and a legitimate christian. The ideas contradict each other.

I guess I'm wrong. You're the expert. You know what a legit Christian is. I guess I'll just have to yield my years of walking with Christ, along with the abundance of changes in my life that it has brought, and listen to what you have to teach me about what a legitimate, refined, perfect Christian ought to look like.

Save it.

You know what a religious person is, but you don't know a thing about my walk with God, or anyone else's.

 

[Sheepo]

Well I suppose if I were to make my spiritual experience out to be completely unique, undefinable, and unrelatable, it would be pretty easy to argue virtually anything in the way of how it works.

God does not approve homosexuality. If you approve of gay friends, you approve of them going to hell.
God does not approve of abortion. If you approve of some one of abortion you approve of them going to hell.

I also love how you accuse me of only understanding religious people and that I can't define your "walk with God", when I never claimed I knew shit about your walk with God and am only talking about religious people and basic Christian doctrine.

 

[Solaris]

If I were to surrender my heart to Christ and live for His purpose, but then decide to say I'm pro-choice, is God going to reject me? No. That's a lie generated by religion. It doesn't matter if I support the right for gays to marry. I've surrendered myself to Christ. God's going to love me and use me anyhow.

Leviticus 20:13 states:
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. "

How can you support the right of gays to get married if you also believe they should be put to death?

Or was god wrong on this point?

 

[jet_porkins]

God does not approve homosexuality. If you approve of gay friends, you approve of them going to hell.

God does not approve of abortion. If you approve of some one of abortion you approve of them going to hell.

I don't have to change law so as to ban abortion altogether in order to be "pro-life." A ban will only lead to people performing unsafe practices on themselves, and I believe will harden people even more in their distaste for religion. There are other ways of defending the side of life.

With respect to gay rights, see below.

BTW, the concept of hell is another debatable matter entirely.

I also love how you accuse me of only understanding religious people and that I can't define your "walk with God", when I never claimed I knew shit about your walk with God and am only talking about religious people and basic Christian doctrine.

But you did. You took the "You call yourself a Christian, but I know that you must believe this in order for you to be true to your faith, otherwise you're a fake in the eyes of your God" approach. That's presumptuousness if I ever saw it.

EDIT: Again, Sheep, you're a nice guy. I'd like to go about this discussion and evade becoming your enemy in the process if I can.

Leviticus 20:13 states:
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. "

How can you support the right of gays to get married if you also believe they should be put to death?

Or was god wrong on this point?

To put your quote back into the context it so desparately needs, Leviticus 20 details the punishments for sin, during the time of Moses. Hundreds of years later, Jesus died so that mankind will no longer pay the penalty of sin, which is death (most of the sins listed in Leviticus 20 all end in death). So obviously today I am not going to believe in putting a gay person to death because he's gay (or killing an adulterer because he committed adultery, or killing a person who curses his mother or father, etc Lev. 20), since that penalty has already been payed for with the blood of Jesus Christ.

Good try, though.

I'd also like to point out that allowing gays to have rights to civil unions in the eyes of the state does not make them any less susceptible to evangelizing. Allowing them these rights would not be an act of abandoning a group of people to live out their desires. They're not lost. God's kingdom won't be any more threatened.

 

[Solaris]

To put your quote back into the context it so desparately needs, Leviticus 20 details the punishments for sin, during the time of Moses. Hundreds of years later, Jesus died so that mankind will no longer pay the penalty of sin, which is death (most of the sins listed in Leviticus 20 all end in death). So obviously today I am not going to believe in putting a gay person to death because he's gay (or killing an adulterer because he committed adultery, or killing a person who curses his mother or father, etc Lev. 20), since that penalty has already been payed for with the blood of Jesus Christ.

Good try, though.

Matthew 5:17-18 (New International Version)

The Fulfillment of the Law

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

From my reading of the context; it seems pretty clear he's talking about the old laws of the new testament, such as executing gays.

Can you show anywhere in the bible where jesus claims that he died for others sins and this means people need not be punished for them??