Christopher Walken for prez?

[RakuraiTenjin]

alright, stop sterotyping, i think that most americans hate bush. i for one dont like the way that he has ran the country for the past 5 years. i do not agree with the war because of the "WOMD" that "was" in iraq before they were moved form the place. i have to say that i think that bush is a fuuking retard and needs to get out of office. ask people before you start talkin crap

No, most Americans don't hate Bush. ~50% of the voters disagreed enough to not vote for him. And a certain amount of those might hate him, but probably 50% or less. I'm sure the other 50% that voted for him don't hate him either, so that's 1/4 of the people that voted. 120 million people voted, that makes ~30 million, which would be 10% of America. I could be really generous too and double that to 60 million, which is more than the amount of people who voted against Bush and it's only 20% of Americans.

Either way, the guy you quoted is an idiot.

 

[bliink]

People are gonna get banned if the flaming/personal attacks don't immediately cease

EDIT: And I'm going to be removing the posts of people who use any swear words that I notice. Profanity is the linguistic crutch of the inarticulate. It only increases hostility and is immature. If you can't make a point without swearing, then you shouldn't be here at all.

 

[el Chi]

Wow, you're a ****ing idiot and I hope you ****ing die in a burning building and then Clint Eastwood walks in, tears off your head and spits down your neck.

This anti-American shit has ****ing got to stop, you're a ****ing hypocritical asshole **** wad.

****.

I see that all those years in debating school paid off.

 

[Kangy]

Profanity is the linguistic crutch of the inarticulate. I

Now that's a hawt sentence. At least, for linguaphiles like myself.

:naughty:

 

[Pesmerga]

Hahaha, yes, most of the American youth does indeed hate Bush. Are they really in the position to form an opinion? No, not unless you can vote. Actually, the entire basis of media and "sources" have suddenly become untrust worthy, how can anyone without political stature actually fathom the effectiveness of any President.

So you say, hey, we can judge a President by judging the country he runs. Sure, that would be nice, too bad there are about five hundred thousand other factors contributing to our country. Our President, contrary to popular belief, cannot wave his hand in front of a problem, snap his fingers and click his heels to solve America's economy "crisis". I can't stand to hear "Oh, Bush is a bad president because he's uhh, bad!"

Now I'm not going to stand here saying whether Bush is a good or bad president, I've heard very convincing arguments on both sides, but the fact of the argument is, it doesn't even matter anymore. Unless he starts beheading judges or lieing under oath, he's going to be there for the duration of his stay. All this Bush bashing gets us nowhere except fueling these petty debates.

 

[Kamikazie]

wow an actual logical post by pesh...and a good one at that

 

[el Chi]

Hahaha, yes, most of the American youth does indeed hate Bush. Are they really in the position to form an opinion? No, not unless you can vote. Actually, the entire basis of media and "sources" have suddenly become untrust worthy, how can anyone without political stature actually fathom the effectiveness of any President.

I'm sorry but that's - unless I have completely misunderstood the jist of this part of your post - nonsense.
From where I'm standing it sounds like you're trying to say, in essence;
"No vote = poor understanding of political process = uninformed and worthless opinion."

Are you trying to imply that a vote means a person has the knowledge (or even the bloody common sense) of how the electoral process and the inner workings of the governmental machine work? Are you trying to say that kids studying politics who have not yet passed voting age are unable to understand the system?

As I say, if I've got the wrong end of the stick then please explain to me what you meant.

 

[Pesmerga]

How does understanding the inner workings of the government enable one to make an informed judgement on the President?

Sure, it helps to realize the limits and exceptions of what the man can do, but I fail to see how that correlates to anything. As a matter of fact, voting for any President is just about how the media and others portray him. There's no real way to know if he's a capable president, all we can do is guess and hope we picked the right one.

Which leads me to my conclusion to solve this dilemma.

Two out of three rounds of some really amazing Sim City esque game between the two candidates. No reward or anything, just let's us know who isn't a complete jack off retard.

 

[el Chi]

How does understanding the inner workings of the government enable one to make an informed judgement on the President?Sure, it helps to realize the limits and exceptions of what the man can do, but I fail to see how that correlates to anything.

I'm sorry, but I really feel like I have to be missing something because if I'm not then I just can't quite get my head around how you managed to arrive at this conclusion of yours.
Understanding the inner workings of gevernmental system would certainly put one in a very good position to be able to make a so-called "informed" decision. Someone who studies politics is far more likely to be interested in and take the time to find out what they can about the various candidates. As such, a student without the vote is in a far better position to make an "informed" decision about the decisions of a leader or their government than a moron WITH the vote.
Surely you're not trying to say that, simply because someone is not able to contribute to the resulting decision of "the people" their opinion is not only invalid and misinformed?
That's simply untrue and quite how you arrived at that conclusion I don't understand. If you'd argued that their opinion was inconsequential then, whilst I wouldn't 100% agree, I would at least see where you'd be coming from.

As a matter of fact, voting for any President is just about how the media and others portray him. There's no real way to know if he's a capable president, all we can do is guess and hope we picked the right one.

That's not a bad point. It's always a gamble, but you can still make a half-decent decision without having to wish for blind luck.

Which leads me to my conclusion to solve this dilemma.
Two out of three rounds of some really amazing Sim City esque game between the two candidates. No reward or anything, just let's us know who isn't a complete jack off retard.

Sim City's ok, and sure it's "relevant", but people these days don't have the patience for slow-paced, well-considered strategy games. We want flashing lights, bright colours and violence we can be offended by.
Therefore I propose we take your suggestion and modify it slightly: They play something like HL2DM or Tekken or something like that. The winner gets to be leader of whichever country, and the loser gets shot, just as an added incentive to do well. THEN we'll know we've picked the right leader because he/she was brave enough to put their life on the line for absolute power and inhuman enough to let their opponent die like a dog.

 

[Geronimous]

Hm

I already noticed a serious intelligent debate on politics is far from possible on these forums. I haven't seen ONE serious post or remark on the subject. not ONE. pathetic!

 

[Pesmerga]

Hm

I already noticed a serious intelligent debate on politics is far from possible on these forums. I haven't seen ONE serious post or remark on the subject. not ONE. pathetic!

Impossible, since the very subject at hand is, apparently, a joke.

The winner gets to be leader of whichever country, and the loser gets shot, just as an added incentive to do well. THEN we'll know we've picked the right leader because he/she was brave enough to put their life on the line for absolute power and inhuman enough to let their opponent die like a dog.

Not quite how I imagined it

 

[el Chi]

Bah! You have NO sense of vision!
<Cocks rifle and fires up Tekken> Contenders... READY!

 

[Kangy]

Why bother with Tekken?

See, here's how I think it'd go:

Everyone votes just like normal, only the percentage of votes doesn't determine who actually wins. It just determines the sharpness of their blade! Then the two candidates fight it out to the death. The winner takes the job, the loser DIES.

 

[Yuri]

Walken Ftw!

 

[The Monkey]

Which party does he belong to? The Walken party.