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I did some searching but couldn't really find any posts by anyone who is confused about this, so clearly I missed something fairly obvious. One thing bugs me and that's Mossman. Is she on our side, or theirs?

She is clearly a a double agent, we all know that, but which side is getting played, and which side is where her real allegiances lie?

I kept getting the impression that she cared more about helping the Combine than helping the Resistance, yet Alyx never mentions any of that to Eli when she has a chance to do so. She just let's it slide - why? For some reason Alyx has decided that Mossman being a double-agent is a non-issue, but I don't see why. I mean her transmissions about the Borealis are sent to the Citadel for crying out loud! The Resistance wasn't even supposed to see that - the Combine were. Unless my memory is hazy and she's addressing someone in the Resistance in the video.

Does everyone just assume this will get cleared up in Episode 3, or is the answer so obvious that I'm teh only one who doesn't get it?
 
As far as we can tell she was a double agent for most of Half-Life 2, working on the side for Breen, and then realised her 'wrongs' so joined back to fight back against the combine.

It could be that the transmission was intercepted by the Combine, or that she knew we'd pick it up.

You know... I'm not quite sure.
 
Druckles said:
As far as we can tell she was a double agent for most of Half-Life 2, working on the side for Breen, and then realised her 'wrongs' so joined back to fight back against the combine.
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Well, yes, could have been this. OR it could've been that she was with us all along and that she set up the meeting with Breen only to free Eli and disarm breen. But now that i think about it, your probably a little more accurate.

Either way she went pretty far for the resistance lately, as she is apparently in the arctic putting her life on the line to find the borealis....
 
Yes true, but say if she wanted you to come and is using herself as bait with the combine, kind of playing a triple agent against you. like i know this is like really jumping off the deep end here but there is a possibility she is just luring Gordon to Borealis for an unknown reason either that or she is in trouble
 
Fiberawptic said:
Well, yes, could have been this. OR it could've been that she was with us all along and that she set up the meeting with Breen only to free Eli and disarm breen. But now that i think about it, your probably a little more accurate.
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Could she have not done that? That might have been more sensible. And perhaps saved some lives.

Also, triple agent just stinks of Indiana Jones and the X-Files.
 
Mossman worked for Breen aiming to the science reward he promised (a better portal technology and stuff). When she realised Breen is going to kill Eli, Alyx and Freeman, she turned against him in a split second, taking the gravity gun and creating the diversion. She took Eli to White Forest. She is the one who found the encripted data in the Combine's communication systems. No one knew about Borealis, the ship plans were hidden in the same transmission. When they discovered Aperture's Borealis location, she immediately went there. The message she sends to the rebels is a call for support, letting us know that Combine is already there (gun shots, etc). She is not an agent, she's as much obssessed by science as Kleiner.

I hope I'm not wrong. Please correct me if there's something missunderstood.
 
^ That

It even makes sense with the concept art.


Great job altceva.
 
Well nobody knows as of yet, she might be a triple agent as far as we know, she might even end up ripping her head off and revealing she is actually a giant zombine alien thing
 
Preator said:
Well nobody knows as of yet, she might be a triple agent as far as we know, she might even end up ripping her head off and revealing she is actually a giant zombine alien thing
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If she were a Zombine alien thing, that would make her part of the Combine and quite clearly a double agent.
 
triple actually seeming she turned on the combine already, after being on the side of the combine, then helping Gordon, Eli and Alyx escape and then going back to the combine if my counting is correct that is 3 >.> a triple agent only makes sense after an associated absence in 2 sides then leaving to go back to one of the previous sides or moving to a new side altogether, and if she was an alien zombine that wouldn't make her a combine, because she has been infected with another aliens matter changing her, those headcrabs obviously attack Combine so whats to say she won't
 
*Spoilers*

I doubt that Mossman will turn back again. She clearly (has/had) strong feelings for Eli, but now that he's dead (and she doesn't know that), we're probably going to have to spring the news on her in an appropriately dramatic moment in the middle of Ep3.
God knows what the woman will do then, maybe try and destroy the world out of grief, maybe she'll be all rational about it (I very much doubt it).
Hell, she'll probably blame Alyx, Gordon and herself, probably in that order, for making him be in the hanger when the Advisors attack. She might even go so far as to attack Alyx or Gordon.
But the thing I am certain about is that she would NOT side with those who killed Eli.
 
*SPOILERS*
Lol Since when has something in Half Life followed what you thought was going to happen, I mean seriously, i thought at the end of HLEP2 you'd fly away and continue your "quest" but no all of a sudden bam advisors to the face, and where you feel the advisors powers for the first time in the barn, again you think "hey i'm gonna kill one!!!" then boom you find your ass floating in mid air watching this thing about to suck your brain out, then when you think your gonna die it gets electrocuted and flies away, as far as your certainty can take you which i doubt is very far, seeming everything in HL is a massive twist, there can be no certainty on Ep3 story or what will happen, In all honesty how can you say Mossman didn't fake feelings for Eli to confuse you as the player, later on bam pulls a final twist giving the advisors instructions to kill Eli
 
Once again, congratulations on your sentences. I encourage you to attempt a world record for longest sentence.
 
Lol imagine Mossman fighting Gordon, the battle would be over in like 1 gunshot and an antlion worker would stand more of a chance of surviving.
 
Lol no doubt, she'd enter the room, and Gordon would be like shotgun to the face, "BOOM HEADSHOT!!"
WTB That happening in Ep 3 mmmkay
 
You people are so cruel. Can't you just let the poor woman be?

Anyway, my money says "Not Faking It", because that's the one thing she's been entirely consistent with. Regardless of whether or not she cared about anyone else, she went to extraordinary lengths to ensure Eli's survival during HL2.
 
You could have just said "No." and left it at that. I am dismayed at the lack of sympathy you exhibit.
 
It's not my fault Eli died i even spammed shoot when the advisors came in, imo mossman should give me a trophy for attempting to kill it, but anyway, you can't be sure that Mossman is now on the "Good Side" because she might turn around and stab you in the face, or as Gman says it more accurately "Prepare for Unforseen Consequences"
 
First of all, thank everyone for the responses. A lot of good stuff here.

The other thing that bugs me is that she's never particularly nice to Alyx. When we first meet her, she's being somewhat difficult with her. Clearly it seems like Alyx overreacted, but you get the impression they butt heads constantly.

Perhaps Mossman is the stereotypical evil step-mom with ulterior motives? Perhaps she wanted to keep Eli alive for some particular reason, and feigns "love" in order to pilfer or otherwise profit from his research. The Combine apparently dont have the same grasp of "local" teleportation that Eli, Kleiner, and Magnussen have figured out, and perhaps her infiltration of the Rebellion and her proximity to research taht could threaten the Combine give her all the more reason to be a spy.

Of course, I might just be reading too far into it. But I just have my doubts about her sincerity. But perhaps those instances I refer to were only put in as foreshadowing her eventual betrayal, and since that original betrayal we haven't really seen anything all that questionable from her (or anything of her at all, now that I think about it).

I still have suspicions about the Borealis being a trap that was started by Mossman. Hell, maybe Mossman is the one telling the advisors where Eli is. Was there any possible hint that Mossman could have taken something valuable with her on her way out? Some data, or perhaps Eli had accomplished something significant where she no longer needed him alive?

But, I gotta say, for right now, I think I'll have to agree with altceva - she had a change of heart involving her affiliations and her loyalty was with Eli the whole time. It just makes more sense given the conversation in Breen's office I think. Why else would she try to get Breen to let him go?
 
Druckles said:
As far as we can tell she was a double agent for most of Half-Life 2, working on the side for Breen, and then realised her 'wrongs' so joined back to fight back against the combine.

It could be that the transmission was intercepted by the Combine, or that she knew we'd pick it up.

You know... I'm not quite sure.
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I'm sitting on the fench with this one... although in EP3 she'll probably die cos she was a secondary character attacher to Eli and he's not gonna be doing much in EP3 unless Gordon happened to have a few Paracetamol and band aids on him.
 
I think that Mossman was working with Breen partly for the science, but I think she believed she could eventually convince Breen that what he was doing was wrong. When Mossman realized that Breen was going to send Eli and Alyx to god knows where on the other side of a combine portal, she was shocked back into reality and finally did the right thing.
 
Mossman basically killed Breen and let Gordon, Alyx and Eli escape from a near certain death at the end of HL2. She can't really re-join the combine now, if she'd stayed on their side the citadel would still be intact.
 
On the other hand, I think Mossman is quite hot.
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