Counter-Strike: Source beta 1 FAQ (and 1 new pic)

I always get beaten to the news :(

I love how Valve doesn't sugar coat their replies :p
 
hmm.. sounds like all CZ owners might get to try the beta.. but hey.. i ain't getting my hopes high.. cause i have never been part of a beta testing.
 
This isn't gonna be a selective beta dude. ALL CZ owners will get to try it.
 
Soundwave said:
This isn't gonna be a selective beta dude. ALL CZ owners will get to try it.
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u never know man.. especially with my luck :|
but i hope ur right :)
 
I just saw those pics, man it looks bad. Thats either a shit computer or the game is shit. :mad:
 
Crisis King said:
I just saw those pics, man it looks bad. Thats either a shit computer or the game is shit. :mad:
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Yeah if you call those pics above shit I dunno what's good these days. Curse all the graphics whores out there! If only you could remember back to the days of the VIC20!!
 
Kazuki_Fuse said:
Yeah if you call those pics above shit I dunno what's good these days. Curse all the graphics whores out there! If only you could remember back to the days of the VIC20!!
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I remember those days! Long live the Tombs of Drewan, Starship Escape and the Scott Adams adventure cartridges!
 
Just picked up cz today, its a large improvement on mp, bots are pretty damn smart, but the deleted scenes thing is more like soldier of fortune than cs.
 
CB | Para said:
Trust us, it's good stuff!
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This coming from someone who JUST bought CZ today! It shows how good a game it really has become, when first time users of it can really recommend it without a doubt
 
Soundwave said:
This isn't gonna be a selective beta dude. ALL CZ owners will get to try it.
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No, I think it says "all CZ owners with the exception of Dr. Freeman" in the fine print.

So it looks like a lot of people will be buying CZ solely to get the beta. :|
 
Snakebyte said:
No, I think it says "all CZ owners with the exception of Dr. Freeman" in the fine print.

So it looks like a lot of people will be buying CZ solely to get the beta. :|
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And those people are stupid. The point was to reward faithful customers, not get people to buy CZ. Atleast, this is how I view it.
 
Shuzer said:
And those people are stupid. The point was to reward faithful customers, not get people to buy CZ. Atleast, this is how I view it.
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Yeah at first I thought I got tricked into buying it, but now that I've played it I don't regret it, probably the best purchase I've made in a while. I can't say the same for the last games I bought.
 
:dozey: Man there has to be a way to keep CS:S even if you can't play it online but for single player with bots or something atleast right?!?! I mean you HAVE to download it so how are you not going to be able to keep it some way or another?!?!
 
Shuzer, thanks for the linkage. Those pics look awesome. Unless I'm mistaken that's de_dust2? :thumbs:
 
-JeZ- said:
Shuzer, thanks for the linkage. Those pics look awesome. Unless I'm mistaken that's de_dust2? :thumbs:
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roger that (i.e. yes it is). www.csnation.net has all 3 video's those caps were taken from in both links (which you have to register an acct for), and torrents.
 
Chris from VALVe e-mailed me back saying he'll put up a CSS Beta faq 1 soon, That's sooner than i expected! but at least we don't have to worry about system specs anymore =]
 
Snakebyte said:
No, I think it says "all CZ owners with the exception of Dr. Freeman" in the fine print.

So it looks like a lot of people will be buying CZ solely to get the beta. :|
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bahh!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:
u hatin' on me? :x
 
dang it...dont know what to get...CZ, graphics card, CZ, graphics card...I can live w/ low settings...
 
2.4 GHz ProcessorB 512MB RAM
DirectX 9 graphics card
Windows 2000/XP
Mouse
Keyboard

lol, imagine playing without a mouse or keyboard? you'll be pwnage on the servers tbfh
(you could play with a wacom... ROFL)

im probally gonna get CZ just for the beta... my freind has it so i can play it with him too. deleted scenes are the biggest pile of coddswallop i have EVER played, as they jump from low difficulty arcade - style "one man vs. 1,000 terrist bombers" to stepping on a mine and having to start the level again. and what the hell... i cant use the optical wire to look through a keyhole because it is "not an optical wire zone"??

seriously i cant see how anyone could have combined the WORST linear level design EVER with APPAULING graphics and SHIT gameplay. i heard someone say something about it pushing the HL engine to the max earlier... well i say HOW?? H-O-W is this better than halflife? HOW???? its the worst pile of bullshit i have ever laid my eyes on!

that said the new maps and AI are cool, but i pretty much hate the new terrorist models (the CT ones are good). The new single player is good, but i was pretty appauled at the fact that i got a BRONZE MEDAL for wasting 2 hours completing it...

anyway, i wont buy CZ off steam, so ill probally have to get it for £24.99 at a local store. CZ is definately worth it if you get a 2 week beta for CS:S free!

*edit* just incase you wondered, i borrowed it off a freind. i can play using the discs and he can play using steam... but i gave it back to him after a couple of days anyway, as without multiplayer its appauling... as the bots are free off the internet for 1.6 anyway.
 
Suicide, the DS are about as good, graphically, as the HL engine can put out. As for the AI, it was basically HL AI with alot of scripted deaths.
There were a few decisions made (ie. flamethrower, optical camera, etc) that sucked because of how you had to use them, but DS was solid overall..

Also, the official CS bots aren't free or available on the internet. That's a perk for having CZ.. there are other alternatives, but they all fall short of the official CS bots
 
Shuzer said:
Suicide, the DS are about as good, graphically, as the HL engine can put out. As for the AI, it was basically HL AI with alot of scripted deaths.
There were a few decisions made (ie. flamethrower, optical camera, etc) that sucked because of how you had to use them, but DS was solid overall..

Also, the official CS bots aren't free or available on the internet. That's a perk for having CZ.. there are other alternatives, but they all fall short of the official CS bots
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firstly, the CS bots ARE podbot. i have podbot, and i can say there is basically no difference between CS1.6 bots and CZ bots. they were made by the same people i belive and both work with the enviroment and communicate with each other, diffusing and generally not getting stuck. I saw nothing better from the CZ bots.

and the DS are a joke. OK, the graphics are average, but the textures have been poorly made and a lot of the game lacks depth. Most of the levels could have been done better by amatur modders, as many shortcuts were used when making additions to the levels such as scenery, and it generally ended up looking wors than if they hadn't been used at all.

When i first heard of CZ, it was supposed to use teamwork and destructable enviroments to create an enthrilling and groundbreaking single player experience.

the game starts with you coming in a chopper much like OF, and when it crashes down i was expecting to lead my team to victory from the ruins of our chopper...
But no. You emerge as a lone superhuman, and on HARD mode, single handedly take down 500 suicide bombers in a linear, SHIT level design. while looking around the level i saw that the rubbish bins were surrounded by litter, and i came across about 10 rubbish bins.. each EXACTLY THE SAME, as well as the surroundinf litter. low and behold these are also used in many of the maps, such as dust 2.

anyway back to the gameplay, there is a medikit every 5 steps and no teamwork required. i end up rescuing a soildier, who is about as helpful as one of the hostages in CS 1.0... and eventually i escape from the level... underwhelmed... and low and behld, the destructible enviroment is one wall that you place some C4 on.. a gaming cliche'.


Then the next level is "stealthy". its a special ops mission, and you have to "sneak" past a guard to collect a blowtorch. Then you use the blowtorch (which is very loud) on a lock. you try and use a knife however... or a SILENCED gun, and it says you have been heard... but a blowtorch is supposedly silent :|

then you use some optical wire in an optical wire zone, and suddenly someone switches a flipswitch from STEALTH to ARCADE. you can take thousands of bullets, but when you touch a deviously hidden mine its all over. Snipers are camping in the most ****ing annoying places and the game is so linear...

So i advance through the level for another 15 minutes, getting headshots and blowing the enemies away... then suddenly a mine exploded five miles away from me and i have to start ALL OVER AGAIN from when i used the optical cable.

i thought "**** this" and pressed alt + F4.

seriously, i can see how you may want to complete it as it is quite humerous seeing how a game can be made so SHIT, but to actually ENJOY it is next to impossible :p
 
Your opinions are your own :) CZ bots aren't POD bots though. Last I checked, they're not made by the same developers, either. http://www.turtlerockstudios.com/About.html

Anyhow.. I enjoyed the DS. They were made to be fun, exactly what they were. Like I said, I agree about the blowtorch/camera bits being too linear and stupid, but all games have problems.

For an oldschool style FPS with objectives, it was fun.
 
O.K... i ont want to get into an argument here.. but i will say that they were deleted for a reason :p

and about the podbot things, im oretty sure i heard someone say that they were by the same people (and they feel the same anyway) but im probally wrong.

lets put our differences aside and play a nice, refreshig game of CZ :)

except i havent bought it yet...

meh, 1.6 will do :)
 
Podbot is a joke, waypoints are awful and the code is just a wallhack and an aimbot, it's not like that in CZ.
 
LoL podbot sucks. i mean rellly sucks. zbot are much beter.

LoL I men playing 1.5 suck and using podbot to.

-Ghoetic.

Edit: I mean 1.5 was best when it was new and for them time it was god.

Well i go with the "wave" as they say and plays 1.6 soon source. :sniper:
 
I think it will be very interesting to see how the clan community reacts to CS:S. Will it accept the changes to the maps, which obviously will ad a great deal more realism and complexity to strategies, or will it reject the newer maps, and use updated versions of the orig bsps.
 
CB | Para said:
Podbot is a joke, waypoints are awful and the code is just a wallhack and an aimbot, it's not like that in CZ.
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well when i played CZ the bots were pretty awful there, too. mind you when i said i had tried both i mean i have played podbot like once on a crappy LAN with a freind, and i completed CZ SP and saw nothing impressive. Either way both were ages ago, so i actually cant remember a lot...

anyway lets EAT CHEESE AND GET FAT

and btw i think clans will react negatively to CS:S, as it will ad complexity to the game and clans love CS for the fact that it is PERFECTLY balanced and simple. complexity will unbalance it. Not that i care, i only play on public and not very often at that :p
 
I bet clans won't even really move to CS:S. Just like they didn't move to CZ. Who cares, I'd rather the clan people stick with 1.6.. tired of arrogant players in CS.
 
No doubt in my mind that clans will move to CS:S. Almost everybody saw CS:CZ as a waste, which it kinda was. Almost everybody who has seen CS:S loves it, so yeah.
 
I'm hoping clans move to CS:S, and CS kiddies stay with 1.6. :)

But seriously, CS:S looks to be just what the Cyber Athlete scene needs, finally CS can become a spectator sport as well. A good game of CS on Source would look awesome with the new engine.
 
Counter-Strike Source should just have the extra features Condition Zero has. Like the Condition Zero maps, hostage AI, single player (not deleted scenes, the other one) and what ever other touches Condition Zero has.
 
Shuzer said:
I bet clans won't even really move to CS:S. Just like they didn't move to CZ. Who cares, I'd rather the clan people stick with 1.6.. tired of arrogant players in CS.
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agreed.
im tired of league players in generally.. specically those with the attitude of "omg!! u are teh n00b and u killed me therefore u hack" this sorta thing is getting tiresome.
 
lol i think ull find its the other way around. cs is being plagued by 10 year olds who just CONSTANTLY chat or scream down the mic. then they're like 'omfg omfg he got a hs with a deagle, what a hax, omg omg omg, kick hime kick him, omfg omfg' GRRRRRR! dont they realise that cs is a game that has veterans who have been playing since the first cs version???? and league players ARE tiresome, even if i am in a clan myself
 
Yes, there are a larger majority of moronic kids who pub. However, I find it in my experience most im-m players are absolute arrogant morons who say "wow gg headshot" and what not. And they're not even that good. I've played against alot of cal-i people, and they're actually decent, and not loud mouthed and arrogant.

So, the attitude I'm tired of is the elitist attitude, not the "I'm 10 and I just found out about swearing!"
 
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