Debate: 6800 GT v x800 Pro

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I'm caught bewteen the two. I don't have the extra cash to go to the Ultra or XT, so it's between these two cards, and I've been told the 6800 GT is the way to go. Anyone care to help?
 
6800 GT all the way IMO. Most bang for your buck in this current generation of cards. The 4 extra pipelines really boost it above the X800 Pro in terms of performance.
 
Yeah, that's what I've beeb hearing. Plus, I believe both are the same price, so why not buy the better.

EDIT: I don't care about the price as long as it doesn't go above $400 or so, so if the GT is better, I'll take it, even if I can get the x800 for cheaper.
 
Holy Sh1t! Dell is selling an X800 pro for only $333?! Wow and I swore I would never buy anything else from them again... well for the price that's amazing, the 9800xt costs more than that. The 6800gt is better, but right now it's hard to find one for $400, which is what it should cost.
 
Just based on performance in all games, the 6800GT is the way to go.
The exceptions for buying a X800pro would be:
If it wins in the HL2 benchmark and thats mainly what you will be playing.
Really fancy AA/AF but don't want low performance. Adaptive AA/AF and Temporal AA.
You can find it but not the 6800GT.
If you find it for a lower price than the 6800GT.
You perfer the experience with an ATI card.

It is just an optimal choice, between the 6800GT and X800pro.
They both are very very fast and powerful cards.
 
i know im thinkin about ordering it...even though its missin out on alot of good nvidia features
 
Damn, still not sure. GT, 16 pipelines, SM 3.0, other goodies, x800 pro, ATiTool, better performance with AA and AF (right?).


Does the x800 really beat out the GT with AA and AF on by a lot? That's probably my biggest worry. I like the extra high graphics, and AA and AF help with that.
 
im going to be getting radeon 9600 XT Sapphire halflife2 and cs:s run better on Radeon graphics card not as good on Nvidia so basically your getting graphics card for halflife2 and cs:s then get radeon xt 9600 or 9800 pro.

Regards,

Homie
 
By looking at average FPS only, it doesn't beat the 6800GT with AA/AF.
But it doesn't take as big of a hit and is much more playable.
If you use Temporal AA then for example it looks like 4x when it is on 2x filtering.

Ask blahblahblah about his card.
 
Get this:
BFG GeForce 6800U OC

Fastest video card ever!
 
Hmmm...one of the reasons I always had my eyes set on the x800 pro was for what they said in the HotHardware article, about the x800s outperforming the 6800s with AA and AF....well, ok, they take a bigger hit than the x800s, but how big of a hit?
 
cant tell i notice newegg seems to have same exact thigns for more it did bug me when i see that for the 9600 xt makes me wonder?
 
Thanks Asus....hmmm....I guess the GT might be better. I mean, it isn't behind very much at all with AA and AF. Plus, I usually play at 1024x768, so my FPS will be good enough.
 
The GT is really more up with the 6800 Ultra and X800XT, it's got the 16 pipes, just slightly slower clock speeds.
 
But you can easily mod an x800 pro vivo to an x800 xt so for cheaper than a GT you can have an x800xt
 
ATI X800PRO versus Nvidia 6800GT
The Nvidia 6800GT is faster with more pipelines (16 vs 12) in both DX9 & OpenGL, has Shader Model 3.0 support for best performance in future games (including future HL2 & FarCry engine games), OpenEXR-based HDR Lighting for the best HDR in future games (farcry 1.3 patch supports this), best OpenGL implementation, 32x0 support, etc. Check out the Doom3 benchmarks for examplem the $399 Nvidia 6800GT beats the $499 ATI x800xtpe:
http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQyLDM=

More benchmarks here at Anandtech with all different types of games:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2113&p=4

So basically its like this in general in terms of performance:

Nvidia 5900XT/U < ATI 9800PRO/XT < Nvidia 6800 128mb < ATI X800PRO < Nvidia 6800GT < ATI X800XTPE = Nvidia 6800 Ultra

Nvidia has more features which kinda tips the scale in their favor.

As for the x800pro VIVO, its more expensive than the 6800GT usually (which goes for 399), nor are you guaranteed 16 pipes, only 12. OTOH, with the 6800GT you are guaranteed 16 pipes and most of the time it overclocks to Ultra speeds, which as fast as the x800xtpe (faster in Doom3). Plus you get more features with the 6800GT. So the 6800GT is still the best choice.

Note that the xbitlabs review linked above is invalid. They benchmarked the ATI card with brilinear mode and the Nvidia card in full trilinear mode instead of benchmarking both in brilinear. The above two links in this post give a good estimate of performance when both cards are on equal ground.
 
I forsee that pixel pipelines will replace video memory as the thing most taken out of context thing in a video card. Right now talking about pipelines is still valid, but I don't think that will be true in the future. So I am calling it now. :p There is so much more to an video card architecture than a simple pixel pipeline.

As for an X800 Pro, I like it a lot. Gets the job done far better than the 6800, 5950 or 9800 XT and I got my X800 Pro over a month before I could have gotten a 6800 GT.

Here is the best benchmark we have so far comparing the cards. It is not a perfect benchmarks since both SM2.0b and SM3.0 paths are still betas and the 1.2 Patch was recalled (not to mention the horrible benchmarking features of Far Cry). It gives you a general idea of what is going on. Those results will change as new drivers come improving performance for the 6800 and X800 series. Anybody who says the 6800 GT blows away the X800 Pro is wrong. The 6800 GT has a small lead, that is all. Comparing the 6800GT to the X800 Pro is not like comparing the 9800 Pro to the 5800 Ultra.
 
tranCendenZ said:
Note that the xbitlabs review linked above is invalid
Click to expand...
I really hate to break it to ya but they enable the optimizations for Nvidia. Read the comments on this review. #3

I would assume you would also work for Nvidia. hehe

I personally perfer ATI but I can still recommend a 6800GT over a X800pro if it would serve them better but why put the 6800Ultra above the X800XT PE when it clearly is not better. Not to mention it is inconvenient for power and space. Reminds me of Prescott. /me shudders
 
GT = teh win :D

The x800pro has really hit its theroticaly limit for this architecture, there is still a alot more power that can be unlocked with driver revesions for the GT
 
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