Deciding to build a PC.

Tried it, and it isn't working either. I plugged the wire into the 8-pin slot and my system shut off and isn't turning on. Oh god.
 
Woah woah WOAH.

What do you mean you plugged it in and your system shut off?

Did you try plugging it in while the power was on!?
 
No haha I'm not that stupid. I plugged it in, turned on the power supply, and turned on the system. Then after about 3 seconds it shut off, and then it wouldn't turn back on. I'm paralyzed with fear even to go near it.
 
The plug is keyed (meaning, only one type of plug will fit, and can insert in only one way). If you believe that it went in all the way and the plastic latch on the connector locked in, then it's in correctly.

So, does that check out?


I think that your PC isn't turning on because of another problem, now only apparent due to getting power correctly.
Well I think theres only one more wire from the power supply that would fit that. On the motherboard it is marked "VGA_DVI" something something, w/e. Should I try it? Would it hurt?
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EDIT: woah, WTF. The thing I circled? I don't believe you.

You do know what VGA and DVI are, right?

Often the labels aren't obvious to what the label is for. So VGA_DVI is probably labeling something else nearby where I circled... Yeah, it looks like that blue thing near where I circled is your on board video output. Plug the monitor up to that.
 
I hope to god that the shut off was caused by another factor. The wire fit into the thing correctly then, because it clicked in. Why didn't you tell me it was supposed to have only 2 wires? It has more than that, but they are all black and yellow. I think I ****ed up. Hopefully the warranty is valid. I turned down my friends yesterday just to build this, and now I think I broke it. I am disappointed in myself.
 
Tacoeaterguy said:
I hope to god that the shut off was caused by another factor. The wire fit into the thing correctly then, because it clicked in. Why didn't you tell me it was supposed to have only 2 wires? It has more than that, but they are all black and yellow.
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No, if you'll notice, I deleted that part of my post because I realized I was wrong. I was going from memory, but I took a look at mine, and yes, there are several black and yellow wires.

It sounds like the wire is in exactly correct. Moving on.

I think I ****ed up. Hopefully the warranty is valid. I turned down my friends yesterday just to build this, and now I think I broke it. I am disappointed in myself.
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What? What broke, and why?

Lol, calm down.

Please read through any manuals you have available to see if you can't spot something amiss.
 
You've got both RAM sticks next to each other, but your motherboard is listed as dual channel.

Did you even check to find out which RAM slots to use?

I would guess you would put RAM in slots 1 and 3, but I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE without reading your manual. (and I'm not going to do that because it's 18 MB and I'm downloading something right now).
 
VirusType2 said:
No, if you'll notice, I deleted that part of my post because I realized I was wrong. I was going from memory, but I took a look at mine, and yes, there are several black and yellow wires.

It sounds like the wire is in exactly correct. Moving on.



What? What broke, and why?

Lol, calm down.

Please read through any manuals you have available to see if you can't spot something amiss.
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Ok thank goodness. But I mean, come on. All of the sudden, right when I plug this new wire in, my system shuts off and doesn't work? How could it not have anything to do with that? Idk, I'll look over the system again, make sure everything is plugged in, fix the ram if it needs to be fixed. My dad will be home tomorrow, and he's pretty good at this kinda shit so he could probably help.

Edit: Let my read what it says in my manual about RAM: "This motherboard provides for DDR3 memory sockets and supports Dual Channel Technology. After the memory is installed, the BIOS will automatically detect the specifications and capacity of the memory. Enabling Dual Channel memory mode will double the original memory bandwidth.

The four DDR3 memory sockets are divided into two channels and each channel has two memory sockets as folowing

>> Channel 0: DDR3_1, DDR3_3
>> Channel 1: DDR3_2, DDR3_4"

There is a little not underneath that: "If two memory modules are to be installed, it is recommended that you install them in the DDR3_1 and DDR3_2 sockets."

Does this mean that I was correct in the installation of my RAM?
 
Tacoeaterguy said:
>> Channel 0: DDR3_1, DDR3_3
>> Channel 1: DDR3_2, DDR3_4"

There is a little not underneath that: "If two memory modules are to be installed, it is recommended that you install them in the DDR3_1 and DDR3_2 sockets."

Does this mean that I was correct in the installation of my RAM?
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They don't necessarily number them in a logical order, so there's no way to know unless you know which slots are which. The RAM slots should be labeled in the manual and/or on the motherboard itself.


The other thing is that Kupocake pointed out (assuming he is correct) - you've got your video card in the lower slot, when it should be in the top slot.

(So after you get your RAM sorted out)...

Take the video card out, and simply use onboard for now (you need to remove the card to move it to the top slot anyway).

Be careful. There is a locking latch you need to push aside before you can remove the card.


Do you know how to discharge your system? This is really safe thing to do before working on your computer. Leave the computer plugged into the wall (so it's grounded), but turn the power supply switch to off. Now hold the power button on your computer for several seconds and it will drain the capacitors (components that store power). The lights might come on for a couple of seconds and then go out. This is how to safely discharge the capacitors.
 
Oh wow well I'm an idiot. I thought I fried my motherboard, but I just did something really stupid and I'm not going to post what it is. Computer turns on fine now. Anyway...

I think the problem may be that I need a bigger power supply. When I plugged that one wire into the thing (which I now know is marked ATX_12V_2X4), it turned off the system. I think this is possible.

Heres a slight problem I'm having, but it isn't that big of an issue, and I'm sure I can fix this, but when I try to turn off my computer, I can't do it by pressing the power button. I have to completely shut off the power supply. Even when I hold it for a couple seconds it still doesn't.

Edit: Just if it sounded like I worded this oddly, I am not saying that I fixed the fact that my monitor isn't getting a signal.
 
Tacoeaterguy said:
Oh wow well I'm an idiot. I thought I fried my motherboard, but I just did something really stupid and I'm not going to post what it is. Computer turns on fine now.
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Power switch on the back of the PSU. Happens to everyone.
I think the problem may be that I need a bigger power supply. When I plugged that one wire into the thing (which I now know is marked ATX_12V_2X4), it turned off the system. I think this is possible.
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This is at least the 3rd time you've made it sound like you plugged it in when the ****ing thing was on.

No, you don't need a bigger power supply.
 
Hahahaha. Well I'm still telling you I didn't. You're right though, I'm wording it incorrectly. Okay lets try this again. After I plugged the wire into the 8-pin port, and turned it on, after 3 seconds, it shut off. There.

Alright well I'm done trying to find a solution today. Hopefully I can make it work tomorrow. Thanks for helping me up to this point everyone.

VirusType2 said:
Power switch on the back of the PSU. Happens to everyone.
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Holy shit how'd you...
 
Best thing to do is be patient and study every single thing carefully. You see how easy it is for something stupid to stop it from working now, right? Like the PSU switch.

I'm sure you'll figure this out.

I would definitely take the Video card out. Because that's 3 possible problems right there:

1) bad video card
2) video card in wrong slot
3) 2 possible places to plug in the monitor (guesswork)

If you take it out, it really makes troubleshooting your problem easier.

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If you are still having problems... since you mentioned having something strange with the power button...

You should have options in the BIOS for what you want the computer to do when you hold the power button. You can make it go into standby, for example. So that strangeness shouldn't be anything to worry about.

However, many people have problems and their computer won't post because they simply plugged in the power switch wrong (or the lights or something).

You have to pay attention to the writing on the motherboard.

powerswitch.gif


here I drew a little example of how a motherboard might indicate how you should plug something in.

Physically, these are not keyed, so you must pay careful attention to the brackets (which would be drawn on the motherboard, probably in white ink - DUH). The red lines I drew there are to indicate the orientation that you would plug in the connector in accordance to the brackets in my example.

Well, it won't win any awards, but I hope that is helpful.
 
My dad fixed it while I was at school everyone. Monitor works. Is there any way to get into BIOS after windows installs...?
 
Yes. Read the instructions to find out which key to press.

On my computer, I hold the DEL button while the computer is booting.
 
Alright so what all do I need to do in BIOS? Set the First Boot Device to the CD Drive, and the second to the Hard Disk. What should I do after that?
 
Yes. You might want to set the first boot device to DVD drive so you can install Windows without having to hold down the [select boot drive Function Key]. I suggest putting the Hard drives to boot first [after you install Windows], because you'll want it to boot into windows without checking the DVD drive every time (waste of time).

In the BIOS, you will need to set up your RAM according to the RAM speeds listed on the packaging that came with your RAM.

There might be dozens of things you'll want to change in your BIOS, but that's up to you.

So are you using onboard video right now, or did your Dad get your monitor to display with your new video card?
 
I pretty sure he got it working from the card, but I have no idea how he did it. He said he just kinda tinkered with with it.
 
VirusType2 said:
In the BIOS, you will need to set up your RAM according to the RAM speeds listed on the packaging that came with your RAM.
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Hmm. I can't see where this would be on the packaging that came with the RAM.
What would that be listed as?

And I was watching some video on how to set up BIOS, and the guy in it switched some 'IDE' to 'RAID'. What is that?
 
Ok, so after you set the RAM timings, and look over all of your BIOS options to make sure things are how you want them. Save the BIOS settings and install Windows 7....

..once windows is installed

now install all the drivers for your motherboard. The motherboard should have come with a driver disc. These are for things like Onboard audio and ethernet adapter - things built in to your motherboard.

...once that is done...

Then you'll need to install the graphics card drivers for your ATI 5850. You can use the disc that came with the card (probably tons of extra stuff you may or may not want) or download the catalyst software, or simply use the catalyst drivers only.

Since you are using Windows 7, you should probably install the catalyst control panel as the lightweight 3rd party software 'ATi Tray tools' doesn't work with Windows 7 last time I checked.

Hmm. I can't see where this would be on the packaging that came with the RAM.
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Then it should be a sticker on the RAM. If not then you will need to look this up on the internet for your specific RAM modules.

You won't be using raid. Just ignore IDE settings. This is a legacy HDD interface. Your HDD is SATA.

Don't mess around with things unless you know what they do.
 
Alright I found the little sticker on the RAM case. Now where do I enter all this? Can't find anything on RAM in BIOS except in this MB Intelligent Tweaker.

Edit: Do I switch something to manual instead of auto?

Edit again: On the sticker it was 9-9-9-24 and thats what it's listed in my system, so I think I'm good on that. Can I install windows now? I can always change stuff later.
 
I am currently posting this message on my new computer! Yay!

So I downloaded the disk that came with the motherboard, and it was basically Norton Security I think. So I go to download the disk that the Video Card came with, and it doesn't run. So I go onto the ATI Cataclyst or w/e, and it doesn't have my card listed. Would I go the 5xxx PCIe since I can't find the 5850?
 
kupocake said:
I think it would be cruel to facepalm at this point :p

Congrats on getting it working :)
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Haha it's okay, I got the right one. I realized after I posted that, that it was a stupid thing to ask. I just searched my card, and clicked download drivers. Seems to work. I'm going to try to install Oblivion tonight and see how it looks.
 
Here's where to get the drivers for your motherboard:

MAIN PAGE (navigate to the drivers and select your OS)
http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=3145

... or here, if you are using Win7 32bit, I've navigated to the download page for you:

motherboard drivers for Windows 7 - 32 Bit (which I'm assuming you have installed):
http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Moth...?ProductID=3145&ost=windows+7+32bit#anchor_os

Install all of them except, I'm not sure about "AMD SATA RAID Driver" (near the bottom of the page). You might need to install this one "AMD SATA AHCI" Driver, but I really don't know shit about it.
 
Wait so I downloaded the disk that came with the motherboard. It comes with Chipsets/Serial ATA/ RAID Network/ Audio Drivers, Norton, and Adobe Acrobat Reader. Do I still need that driver you linked me?
 
Well, you said it only had Norton. So what the hell, man? You begin to frustrate me, child.

The stuff on the website is likely to be updated, so I'd use the ones from the website.

It's not rocket science. You always install drivers for all hardware. It just happens that Windows has a lot of generic drivers it will use if you don't have the proper driver installed. The generic drivers may work (you may have sound, for example), but often it lacks much of the functionality or efficiency.

So yes, install the drivers for you hardware.
 
VirusType2 said:
Well, you said it only had Norton. So what the hell, man? You begin to frustrate me, child.
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First you call me a man, then you call me a child. You begin to frustrate me, bro.

But in all seriousness, Thanks for the help.

Edit: and I thank everyone who helped, or tried to help in this thread.
 
Doesn't Windows Update drip feed you most of the manufacturer specific drivers at a later date anyway?
 
I wouldn't use Windows update to update drivers if you can avoid it. Just use it if you can't find the appropriate driver at the manufacturer website.

You see, I've had it offer me an update for my video card that caused my video card to malfunction. My card is old, so I have the last available driver installed. (a legacy driver). In other words, they've stopped updating drivers for this video card. But Windows 7 update simply saw my card as an ATi card and wanted to give me the latest version of Catalyst. (which doesn't work with my card)

But in all seriousness, Thanks for the help.
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You're quite welcome, friend.
 
Windows Update has drivers that have passed testing (old by then) but that doesn't mean they are without issue (like Virus points out). It isn't good in general to update drivers blindly for said reason. So you update to the driver that fixes your issue (or don't update if you don't have one to fix) and it is usually the newest version from the manufacturers website and sometimes in beta. But you usually are looking to get drivers (besides fresh install) when something goes bad and are trying to say...fix Battlefield from glitching with your video card (example).
 
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