Dexter Season 4

Interesting episode.
Trinity making a coffin from that lumber and the assistant parts were a bit predictable. Although I can't work out who or what he's built that coffin for. Something that's always bugged me -- I seem to recall a few times now that Dexter has gone after people as soon as they're brought to Miami Metro's (and thereby Dexter's) attention. Doesn't anyone get suspicious that only a few days later, they're missing?

Anyway, I'm very glad they addressed the whole Nicki didn't kill Lundy thing. And does anyone think Quinn's going to rifle through Dexter's desk, find the Lauren Moser picture and investigate further...
 
FishBulb said:
Interesting episode.
Trinity making a coffin from that lumber and the assistant parts were a bit predictable. Although I can't work out who or what he's built that coffin for. Something that's always bugged me -- I seem to recall a few times now that Dexter has gone after people as soon as they're brought to Miami Metro's (and thereby Dexter's) attention. Doesn't anyone get suspicious that only a few days later, they're missing?

Anyway, I'm very glad they addressed the whole Nicki didn't kill Lundy thing. And does anyone think Quinn's going to rifle through Dexter's desk, find the Lauren Moser picture and investigate further...
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I had a post earlier in this thread about Quinn + Dexter along those lines.

I think Farrow is probably guilty, too, the assistant being guilt by association or accessory after the fact helping cover it up/ditch the bodies, etc. The line "...they'd thank me if they could..." sort of implies that he at least knew they were dead. -edit- lol, in other words, what TwwIX just freakin' said.

I'd had a couple different posts typed up before, but never submitted them. Like I said I tend to overthink things so didn't want to speculate. One post was about Trinity, and how it's possible that he doesn't just kill in 3's, it's just the pattern of 3's is the only pattern Lundy was able to make out. In other words, he could be killing a dozen people a week or what have you, but nobody knows it because they haven't picked up on those other patterns.

I sort of have a theory on the coffin. I think it could be part of the ritual. He kills a 4th victim, possibly representing a little brother, someone that nobody ever knew about. And if his ritual involves building a coffin and burying it, Lundy would never have been able to connect those to Trinity because they probably never found the coffins. Or even if they did it might never occur to anyone they're connected. Again, going back to Lundy not being able to connect the dots, for all we know his ritual involves 8 deaths, or 20, but Lundy's only been able to connect 3 corresponding to the same dates, methods, etc.

There's always the obvious reason, that he's going to kill Dexter for touching his sister's urn, too. But I lean more towards it being part of his ritual.

-edit 2- The coffin could also represent Trinity, himself. He kills a 4th victim, representing himself, as punishment or guilt for killing the other 3. After that, he's "born again" to start the cycle over. Might fit with his being a deacon and all.
 
I refuse to watch any previews. I always turn it off before the "next week on Dexter" things. Down visiting some family and caught one of the ads and didn't have the remote handy, pissed me off. They showed Dexter and Trinity on the roof and the arm grabbing. Knowing it's way too early in the season to actually kill Trinity off it just pissed me off knowing that much.

They didn't really address much on the coffin. Had a thought about Trinity being fairly religious, maybe he has a Jesus complex or something (religious + carpenter, etc). Also thought maybe he built it for himself, and had been planning to kill himself or something and left a note about being buried in his own coffin, but it doesn't look like he decided that until after confessing to Dexter, so probably not.

This episode didn't do a lot for me. Never really liked Third Rock from the Sun, mostly due to Lithgow's over-acting. Reminded me a lot of that. Most of you whippersnappers have probably never seen "The World According to Garp". My first introduction to Lithgow, probably some of his best work...an ass-kicking drag queen, with no over-acting. Maybe doing a sitcom ruined him, I don't know.
 
Great episode with some hilarious scenes. I LOL'd hard at:

1. Debra's DNA sweep and Thanksgiving hints to Quinn.
2. Trinity's dance.
3. Angel sitting on the conference room table and breaking it.

:LOL:
 
At first I found it silly that it all began with an accident, but now I kind of like it. It's somewhat fitting.

I wonder who it was that really shot Deb and Lundy.

Trinity attempting suicide was really fantastic. What a great episode.
 
hot564231 said:
I feeling Trinity's family is involved somehow
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Interesting, hadn't thought of that. If Trinity had recognized homicidal urges in Jonah and taught him a code like Harry & Dexter, and Trinity made Jonah think Lundy was about to catch Jonah for stuff he'd done, then maybe. Jonah would be around the same height as Masuka. But personally...

I think the whole thing with Deb's wounds was just misdirection (and a reason to get her to take off her shirt, so thanks for that writers!). I think Trinity was the shooter.

http://imgur.com/AeOp0

Not that this means anything, but there's no way this person is Masuka's height. When Trinity shot Deb, his hand was probably in his pant's pocket, hiding it until he got close enough to be noticed. He didn't need to aim, just put her down, then pull the gun out to hit Lundy. If so, the trajectory would be even lower than where Masuka was indicating by holding the gun out at waist level. Trinity's upper thigh (depending on how deep the pockets are) would be very close to the level above Deb's waist.

-edit- Not to mention, even tho Masuka was standing on a stool, his arms wouldn't be as long as someone 6'4". And he was holding his arm out, even when he brought it down to waist level it was still extended outward. With a longer arm you put it in your pocket and it lines up more closely.
 
Lundy was over 6 feet tall, and wasn't one of the shots in his upper chest, near his clavicle? Definitely points towards a tall shooter.
 
If it is Trinity, it will be interesting to find out how they account for knowing where Lundy was staying. Not like he was in the book, or would know where he could find him to follow him home. Only logical explanation would be he got off at the next stop and hurried back to follow him, or has a contact through law enforcement.

And if we're sticking with a tall shooter, I haven't ruled out Anton either. He was in town and already suspicious of their relationship. Crime of passion, and all that. He'd know through Deb the vacation murders would be a good cover, gives her a non-fatal love-tap to throw off suspicion. Highly unlikely, but wouldn't surprise me, either.
 
I dunno, Anton was pretty calm when Deb was like "Oh yeah I cheated on you with Lundy", and he said he'd see her through it, so I don't know. I don't really see him as doing that whole thing. I guess it's possible that he could have tried to guilt her into staying with him, but again, it feels flimsy.

And yeah, Trinity knowing where Lundy was staying is an odd one indeed. Did anyone aside from Deb actually know where he was staying?
 
Another great episode. The last scene = ohshit
 
Wow, yeah....left freaking field with that one.

Looks like they just accounted for how Trinity knew where Lundy was staying, too. She could easily find out or have been the one to follow him home.
 
I have to admit that I haven't been that crazy about Dexter for some time, but

daaamn, Trinity was so creepy in this episode. The whole thing with his family. I think if I rewatched Third Rock From The Sun some day, it wouldn't be the same anymore.

Also, gaaaasp, the final scene.
 
Holy shit, awesome episode, best of season I think. I thought all she was good for was boobies.

Are any of you hoping that Trinity doesn't get killed by Dexter but that Deb catches him?
 
Trinity is a total goddamn monster. His poor kids / wife.
I also don't like neighbor guy. He needs to die.

PvtRyan said:
Are any of you hoping that Trinity doesn't get killed by Dexter but that Deb catches him?
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That's totally what I'm hoping for.

With what happened with Deb and the Ice Truck Killer, plus how close she is to this one, plus the notion of Trinity almost committing suicide, I kind of like the idea that Dexter is gonna lose this time.

What a great episode. What a great ****ing show.

Though I have to say, I'm really bummed out that they're going with the idea that Christine is the one who killed Lundy and shot Deb. It holds together just so very, very poorly.

It did catch me remarkably off guard that she is apparently another of Trinity's kids, so maybe they're using their brains after all.
 
Yorick said:
Trinity is a total goddamn monster. His poor kids / wife.
I also don't like neighbor guy. He needs to die.



That's totally what I'm hoping for.

With what happened with Deb and the Ice Truck Killer, plus how close she is to this one, plus the notion of Trinity almost committing suicide, I kind of like the idea that Dexter is gonna lose this time.

What a great episode. What a great ****ing show.

Though I have to say, I'm really bummed out that they're going with the idea that Christine is the one who killed Lundy and shot Deb. It holds together just so very, very poorly.

It did catch me remarkably off guard that she is apparently another of Trinity's kids, so maybe they're using their brains after all.
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No, it makes sense. I'll bet if/when they show her shooting Lundy and Deb Trinity will be there with her, and he's the one who picked their pockets like in the screen grab I posted earlier. The family that slays together...stays together.

Right now, Deb is on to Christine, tho. And obviously Trinity looks like he'll be going after Dexter, which is probably why he stopped by his little helper's house.
 
Best of the season so far. So creepy. Glad it picked up!
 
One of the best episodes in the whole series

Suddenly Christine is so important now. It did catch me off guard that she's one of Arther's kids. I wonder why Trinity seemed so shocked when he first read about Lundy in that newspaper in the library. Was Christine sending him messages by reporting the news? Couldn't she tell him in person?

Oh and Trinity is so damn creepy.

This is shaping up to be the best season so far.
 
Great episode indeed.

I knew it! That reporter was up to no good all along. The last bit was quite unexpected though. Dexter practically revealing his dark side to Arthur and family was quite shocking too. He's losing control of his emotions, or rather, finally expressing them for the first time. How is he going to dispose of Trinity now?

My Theory. After Dexter finally gets rid of Arthur, Christine will probably be blamed for all the recent killings as a copy cat killer. We already know that Debra figured out Christine shot her. Debra may end up shooting her in some kind of pursuit in the end.


I can't wait for the next episode. This is by far the best season of the series.
 
Wow. Just... wow.
And here I was thinking Trinity was going to go after Christine because she was getting a little too close to his liking. But then, that last scene...

Christine: ...hi, Dad.
Me: Oh **** me.
Can't wait for the next episode!
 
Didn't I say the family might have been involved!

God I love it when my suspicions pay off, although a little off too.
 
Oh stop being such a spoil sport, I was right, and you were not ;)
 
Gonna have to agree, doesn't count, since it's certainly not the family you would have been referring to.
 
Next week will be interesting for sure.

I've been watching some of Season 2 to satiate my need for Dexter (and since I haven't watched it since it was actually on TV). Question for all of you: in terms of pure sex and fox-hood, Lila (dark haired psycho chick from S2) or the reporter / daughter of Trinity?
 
Rizzo said:
That reporter is probably trinitys doughter, and she is the one who shot and killed Lundy.
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Now, I might not have posted that here, but I promise I totally thought about it one time. You should all be impressed.
 
Rizzo said:
You should all be impressed.
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We aren't.

Ennui said:
I've been watching some of Season 2 to satiate my need for Dexter (and since I haven't watched it since it was actually on TV). Question for all of you: in terms of pure sex and fox-hood, Lila (dark haired psycho chick from S2) or the reporter / daughter of Trinity?
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The reporter by far. But I also don't actually find Lila attractive. There are some scenes in which I'd take Rita over Lila.
 
Reporter by far, god damn. I hate mrs. pardon my tits. Not really attractive tbh.
 
Lila for me, tho I'd put them both around the same hotness scale, just for different reasons. Christine's not all that "fit", as far as muscle tone, etc. Some cottage cheese going on in those thighs. Very first episode she looked great in the face, but as time has gone on she's just "cute" now. Tits are a wash, as is craziness level. As for Lila, only thing that really bugs me is it's as if her upper lip is glued to her upper teeth when she talks. And certain British accents just grate on my ears and hers is that type.

"Dex-tuh"

/throat-punch
 
Well, I finally got close to being right, except for the coffin part and the reasoning, anyway.

Fragalishus said:
I sort of have a theory on the coffin. I think it could be part of the ritual. He kills a 4th victim, possibly representing a little brother, someone that nobody ever knew about. And if his ritual involves building a coffin and burying it, Lundy would never have been able to connect those to Trinity because they probably never found the coffins. Or even if they did it might never occur to anyone they're connected. Again, going back to Lundy not being able to connect the dots, for all we know his ritual involves 8 deaths, or 20, but Lundy's only been able to connect 3 corresponding to the same dates, methods, etc.

There's always the obvious reason, that he's going to kill Dexter for touching his sister's urn, too. But I lean more towards it being part of his ritual.

-edit 2- The coffin could also represent Trinity, himself. He kills a 4th victim, representing himself, as punishment or guilt for killing the other 3. After that, he's "born again" to start the cycle over. Might fit with his being a deacon and all.
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Altho the reason part should be close. Would make more sense to end his cycle that way, even without the "reborn" part. However...

None of this really makes sense, at least not as far as fitting with the rest of his cycles. I mean, according to previous shows, he never kills in the same city twice, except for now where he starts over where he started 30 years ago. Why would he start another cycle in the same city again? Then again, their math was pretty horrible throughout the season anyway. From what I gathered he did about 1 cycle a year, never in the same city twice, yet I think at one point they said there were only 12 cities (think Trinity only had 12 or so plaques on the wall, too). Again, none of it really adds up.

I guess it makes sense to begin his cycle this way, as opposed to ending it like I thought. He kills off his "innocence", which I guess is how he felt when his sister died since he feels it was his fault. But it certainly doesn't make sense to start another cycle in the same city back to back, especially if their wasn't a corresponding one 30 years ago, which I'm sure they would have mentioned.

Not sure where the 5 days fits in. Maybe that's when he first started peeking at his sister, 5 days before he got caught doing it when she slipped.

-edit- They keep teasing this Laura Moser thing, too. And last year the 11th episode was pretty much the finale, with the last just wrapping up with the wedding and the skinner. So I bet next week will have some fireworks.
 
I really do hope that Deb catches Trinity, and it looks like that perhaps she will.
 
I think the reporter chick might take the fall for Trinity. She's already shown that she's willing to go to really extreme lengths to keep him safe. I really didn't expect Trinity to have a fourth victim that represents him trying to preserve innocence, but I really like it, it ties together quite well.

The "Oh Lundy didn't notice because he only looked at homicides" bit was quite silly, since all the mothers would have come up as suicides, and Lundy seems too careful to miss that kind of thing.

Just once I really want to see Dexter lose. I'm not saying Trinity should necessarily get away, because as we saw with Lila he'll cross the globe to get someone. But, you know, he managed to save the kid in last night's episode. I think it would have provided some nice material if he hadn't been able to.

Overall, good episode, but lacking that real kick it has had lately.
 
Yorick said:
I think the reporter chick might take the fall for Trinity. She's already shown that she's willing to go to really extreme lengths to keep him safe. I really didn't expect Trinity to have a fourth victim that represents him trying to preserve innocence, but I really like it, it ties together quite well.

The "Oh Lundy didn't notice because he only looked at homicides" bit was quite silly, since all the mothers would have come up as suicides, and Lundy seems too careful to miss that kind of thing.

Just once I really want to see Dexter lose. I'm not saying Trinity should necessarily get away, because as we saw with Lila he'll cross the globe to get someone. But, you know, he managed to save the kid in last night's episode. I think it would have provided some nice material if he hadn't been able to.

Overall, good episode, but lacking that real kick it has had lately.
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He killed an innocent man pretty recently, slacked at killing Trinity and neglected his family. I'd say he isn't exactly on a win streak.
 
Yorick said:
I think the reporter chick might take the fall for Trinity. She's already shown that she's willing to go to really extreme lengths to keep him safe. I really didn't expect Trinity to have a fourth victim that represents him trying to preserve innocence, but I really like it, it ties together quite well.

The "Oh Lundy didn't notice because he only looked at homicides" bit was quite silly, since all the mothers would have come up as suicides, and Lundy seems too careful to miss that kind of thing.

Just once I really want to see Dexter lose. I'm not saying Trinity should necessarily get away, because as we saw with Lila he'll cross the globe to get someone. But, you know, he managed to save the kid in last night's episode. I think it would have provided some nice material if he hadn't been able to.

Overall, good episode, but lacking that real kick it has had lately.
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I think what they meant is that Lundy wouldn't be looking at missing children, since bodies were never found, they'd rarely end up as homicides, just stay as missing persons. And since the 3 victims were adults, it would be a stretch for him to tie those in to missing kids without some sort of evidence. Dexter knew a ton more about Trinity than Lundy ever did, and even he had to follow him to find this out. If he hadn't seen it first hand, he would have never known either.

Obviously, it looks like Dexter saved the innocent life to make up karma for taking an innocent life. They could also do a win-win situation. Deb catches Trinity, then Dexter kills him in his cell by making it look like a suicide. Or better yet, talks him into it like he did his own victims. "I'll go kill Jonah and Rebecca if you don't do it" etc.

Season 1 had a huge cliffhanger when they found Dexter's bodies. They wouldn't be teasing the Laura Moser thing all season for no reason, and he still has that hammer. I'm willing to bet there's a hell of a cliffhanger involving Dexter and Trinity's relationship, regardless if Trinity ends up dead or not. I mean, even if Deb catches him, he could see Dexter in the station and yell out "Kyle!" in front of Deb or some such. If Deb catches him it'll be a shitstorm for Dexter, either way.

Also, I'll bet Christine is a little bitter about the lack of attention she gets, compared to other kids, so she could easily give up Trinity. They already know they're related, so if nothing else Quinn could go in and sweet talk her like he's going to help her out and get her to confess. Remember the "good cop/bad cop" thing they did with Deb and Quinn when he first joined the show, and that crazy chick bludgeoned some guy to death?
 
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