Dixie Chicks

[theotherguy]

A long time ago, in a place far far away....(2003, London) The Dixie Chicks, a popular country/pop group from Lubbock Texas stated at a concert "We're ashamed that president bush came from Texas"

Instantly, their entire audience was thrown in to an uproar. Children were crushing CD's and burning pictures of the dixie chicks as their parents watched on and laughed (go censorship!), radio stations banned their music and other country stars began refusing association with them. Especially here in texas, the Dixie Chicks were equated with the antichrist. How dare they "disrespect" the office of the holy and unshakable president!

Sales began falling, and the Dixie Chicks were forced into a public apology.

Now, four years later, with the president's approval rating falling, and with everybody taking a shot at the president and nothing goes wrong, the Dixie Chicks have finally retracted their apology, saying that the president "deserves no respect" and releasing an album geared towards political views and censorship rather than drunken husbands and trailer homes, shocking their fans yet again. But this time, nobody is burning pictures or breaking CD's or banning country music...the minority who still feel the same way they did in 2003 now simply grumble and refuse to buy their CD silently.

What a change our country has gone through!

Discuss.

 

[DeusExMachina]

I love how two weeks after their statement, they do a buncha magazine articles, saying how much they love Bush and everything he's done for America.

 

[MultiVaC]

The only reason they had a such a backlash against them is because they were a country group. Country listeners are generally more conservative I guess, because artists of every other genre bash Bush and actually gain respect for it. Many people who burned the Dixie Chicks CDs were just stupid inbred hicks anyway.

 

[CptStern]

I love how two weeks after their statement, they do a buncha magazine articles, saying how much they love Bush and everything he's done for America.

wouldnt you?

 

[DeusExMachina]

Well, I wouldn't be a country singer in the first place . That's their first mistake.

Unless it was the 1950s or 60s. Then I wouldn't mind being a country singer. At least country was good back then.

 

[Raziaar]

I think the people are stupid for falling out of like with them just because they said that in the first place... if you like their music, you like their music.

I have favorite celebrities who oppose bush... back when I supported him. I didn't feel any differently about them.

Stupid people. And stupid dixie chicks for trying to backpedal just to save sales and keep your profits. Don't have enough money already, and willing to change your demeanor for more? ugh. just as bad.

 

[CptStern]

Well, I wouldn't be a country singer in the first place . That's their first mistake.

Unless it was the 1950s or 60s. Then I wouldn't mind being a country singer. At least country was good back then.

ya I agree ..some of it was good ..some of it was terrible


still you cant fault them for at least saying something ...I can think of maybe a handful of actors/musicians that have criticized the war or the bush admin, it's as if the entire entertainment industry has clamped down on anything resembling a political voice ...the polar opposite of the last time this happened in the late 60's

I actually respect the dixie chicks for speaking out ..and they're kinda hot so that helps too

 

[Lemonking]

I like how they said **** Bush while he was still popular.My dad that ignorant guy (he's my dad,I love him) actually wrote hate mail to their site.its like DUH,your the one that should be getting hate mail if you support him like you do.

 

[DeusExMachina]

It's actually surprising a country singer would even say something like that. What with Toby Keith and his bullshit, you'd almost stereotype all modern country singers like that.

 

[CptStern]

why? what does this toby keith guy have to say?

 

[Lemonking]

why? what does this toby keith guy have to say?

blind ass Bush supporter

 

[DeusExMachina]

why? what does this toby keith guy have to say?

I forget the exact lyrics, but one of his songs is about America "putting a boot in your ass."

And for some reason, I'm bleeding out of my ear...

 

[CptStern]

blind patriotism

 

[DeusExMachina]

I found the lyrics

American girls, and american guys
We'll always stand up and salute
We'll always recognize
When we see old glory flyin'
There's a lot of men dead
So we can sleep in peace at night
When we lay down our head.

My daddy served in the Army
Where he lost his right eye
But he flew a flag out in our yard
'Til the day that he died
He wanted my mother, my brother,
My sister and me to grow up
And live happy in the land of the free

Now this nation that I love
Has fallen under attack
A sucker punch came flyin'
From somewhere in the back
As soon as we could see clearly
Through our big black eye
Man we lit up your world
Like the fourth of July.

And Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist
And the Eagle will fly, and it's gonna to be hell
When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell
And it'll feel like the whole wide world's raining down on you.
Brought to you courtesy of the red, white, and blue.

Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you'll be sorry that you messed with
The US of A
Cuz we'll put a boot in your ass
It's the American way.

And Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist
And the Eagle will fly, and it's gonna to be hell
When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell
And it'll feel like the whole wide world's raining down on you.
Brought to you courtesy of the red, white, and blue.

Oh, of the red, white, and blue
Oh, of my red, white, and blue


You HAVE to read some of the responses to the song on songmeanings.com, its disgusting.

 

[CptStern]

wow an argument between rednecks and angry christians ...entertaining in a frightening way


those lyrics look like they were written by a 12 year old ..so naive, I cant believe people belive that crap

 

[pvtbones]

those replies make me wonder why the mother nature let us evolved past the "sticking our fingers up our asses" phase. We are evidently not yet ready from such the burden as inteligence...

 

[DeusExMachina]

I don't even want to go to page 2, these people's responses scare me.

"Supporting everything our government does is the American way!"

Does anyone pay attention in history class anymore?

I feel sorry for freefalln, he was defending himself against an army of morons.

 

[DreadLord]

Oh no freeefalln , you got me started. Diplomatics. How the **** can you be diplomatic with the ****en Doon Coons! Im not saying I hate all Arabs, but most of them are militant sand ******s, whos only goal in life is to kill off the infidels. The whole damn middle east is the biggest cluster ****. All they ****en do is run around killing each other. Becaue Allah told them it was a good idea. Because their god has a bigger dick than our god. Diplomatic, Ok dumbass, they already proved they want to fight. They flew a ****en plane into the WTC, and killed thousands of INNOCENT Americans, whos only crime was going to work and living in America. Thats ****ed up dude, Im for diplomatics, but there are somethings that you have to stand up for. If America was to be a passive pussy about this whole thing, and just ignore it, we would be walked on by every terrorist faction around. Diplomatics my ass. Tell that to a widow who lost her husband in the WTC, or the mother of a child on the plane that flew into the Pentagon. Those terrorists need to be punished, not reasoned with.

It's shit like this that makes me embarassed to live here.

 

[gick]

*shoots self*

 

[Laivasse]

It's all right, you can distance yourself from statements like that by simply not being a country music fan.

As for the Dixie Chicks, I have no sympathy. You may as well be a popular gospel singer (if such a thing exists) and then say something like 'lol I spit in the eyes of christ'. They should have been expecting this from their idiot fanbase. The lesson we can all learn from this is MAKE BETTER MUSIC.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Hang on, they got shouted at for that in London 2003?

I wasn't aware that Londoners were so pro-Bush. D:

 

[VictimOfScience]

The lesson we can all learn from this is MAKE BETTER MUSIC.

Or: LEAVE THE POLITICS TO THE PUNK BANDS.

 

[Sulkdodds]

at the guy who thinks 'treat others as you would wish to be treated' means 'an eye for an eye'.

Then ;( at him.

 

[Laivasse]

Hang on, they got shouted at for that in London 2003?

I wasn't aware that Londoners were so pro-Bush. D:

Country fans, I tell you! We must be on our guard in all places, at all times.

<.<
>.>

 

[Sulkdodds]

Hmm, I start to see your point.
I am enjoying the comments of one 'TheRyno731'.

Imagine everything he says...in a long, slow, mournful...and increh-dably deep southern voice...it's jest too perfect...yeah.

 

[theotherguy]

Hang on, they got shouted at for that in London 2003?

I wasn't aware that Londoners were so pro-Bush. D:

the london crowd was about 60% cheers and 40% boos to their statement (the 40% was made up of foreigners who followed them to london) It was the news of the event which stirred up the backlash in the US.

 

[15357]

blind patriotism

is better than calculated patriotism.



Anyway, I hate those entertainers who go into politics in their stuff. Just entertain, ****ers! Stop abusing your popularity by brainwashing the impressionable fans!

 

[CptStern]

is better than calculated patriotism.

same thing

Anyway, I hate those entertainers who go into politics in their stuff. Just entertain, ****ers! Stop abusing your popularity by brainwashing the impressionable fans!

so they're not supposed to have a POV? I guess you've never heard of bob dylan, John Lennon or bob marley? oh I guess they're just a bunch of hippies who dont matter all that much

oh and making a political statement in the US for an entertainer isnt an attempt at grabbing controversy, no, in america having a political voice for an entertainer is a career killer

 

[Sulkdodds]

Why should entertainment and message ever be mutually exclusive?

Way to ignore like every good writer ever, lol.

 

[15357]

same thing

Blind : Not based on reason or evidence; unquestioning (I guess that this one is what you mean)

Calculated: Undertaken after careful estimation of the likely outcome

No, not really.

so they're not supposed to have a POV? I guess you've never heard of bob dylan, John Lennon or bob marley? oh I guess they're just a bunch of hippies who dont matter all that much

oh and making a political statement in the US for an entertainer isnt an attempt at grabbing controversy, no, in america having a political voice for an entertainer is a career killer

Yes.... you are correct.....

And well, the first post made it sound like that ot wpuld be an advancement in their careers..

 

[Ludah]

Blind : Not based on reason or evidence; unquestioning (I guess that this one is what you mean)

Calculated: Undertaken after careful estimation of the likely outcome

And the former is better than the latter?

...

Ladies and gentlemen, witness the fruits of indoctrination.

 

[15357]

And the former is better than the latter?

...

Ladies and gentlemen, witness the fruits of indoctrination.

indoctrination

n : teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically

Not again......


I am saying that blind nationalism is way better than the coward who calculates then goes with the winner.

 

[CptStern]

but at least he thought it out beforehand ..the blind patriot supports a particular ideology for no other reason than it fits his narrowly defined POV of what it means to be a patriot

in the lead up to the war in iraq some americans were quick to label anyone who questioned the justification as un-american or a traitor ..when in fact it was they who were traitors to their country for silencing debate ..even minimal research would have led anyone to the conclusion that the war was a sham from the get go

 

[Gunner]

indoctrination

n : teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically

Not again......


I am saying that blind nationalism is way better than the coward who calculates then goes with the winner.

What winner? you're not making any sense. You're talking about patriotism, remember?

 

[theotherguy]

blind patriotism led to world war I.

 

[15357]

What winner? you're not making any sense. You're talking about patriotism, remember?

I forget/mistype English nouns somethimes. Please bear with me.


Uh, in this case, the general mood of the nation, the possiblility of victory/defeat, ect.

 

[Ludah]

I am saying that blind nationalism is way better than the coward who calculates then goes with the winner.

You said somebody who pledges his allegiance depending on the outcome.

"Outcome" does not necessarily mean the most beneficial for the individual. It can be the most moral, the most just, the most humanitarian, or the most valued and worth fighting for. "Calculated patriotism" is by far more sensible than any blind allegiance for the sake of it, and it's far different from cowardice.

 

[15357]

Sensible? This is patriotism we're talking about. What 'sense' need to be there except that it's your country, your fatherland, the land of your forefathers and it is your duty as a proud citizen to defend it, to side with it at all costs?

 

[The Monkey]

Internationalism>Nationalism

 

[CptStern]

Sensible? This is patriotism we're talking about. What 'sense' need to be there except that it's your country, your fatherland, the land of your forefathers and it is your duty as a proud citizen to defend it, to side with it at all costs?

that's the first thing you've ever said that rings true ..there is no "sense" in patriotism. Patriotism relies on faith, not facts


edit: ludah, couldnt have said it better myself